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Re: Heights man badly beaten, robbed in Pershing Field by three men -- one wearing a black skull ca
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its crazy that the most descriptive characteristic (race) is left out

One of the few reasons the Jersey Journal does not put race/ethnicity in the articles is the few times they do they turn out to be wrong. Witnesses are very unreliable. The last time they did post an ethnicity was when the man in Kearny was killed in an armed robbery a few months ago, they described the suspects as Hispanic males. It turned out none of them were Hispanic and three White males were arrested. That was not the first time either.

Another reason is JC/HC is very diverse and you would be surprised at how many people can't tell the difference between different races and ethnicity's. I have heard people in the past assume some Guyanese (Indian decent) and Phillipinos to be Black, Arabics and Italians to be Hispanic. Many times this is done by people that assume only certain groups dress a certain way.

why don't they just say what the witnesses said they saw:
"The victim described their attacker as white, male, about 6' tall, in his late 30s or early 40s, with a red and black tattoo on his right inside wrist."
If the description is wrong, it's not their fault.
Whenever I describe somebody as white, people laugh. We have to get past that already. To me it sounds odd and incomplete - they're trying to describe someone without describing them.

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... how come when the drunk, priviliged, White teens are out and about on the PATH trains and around Grove Street...they are never referred to as "wolf packs"?


They are called a lot of things -- but never wolf packs because no one thinks they are going to attack anyone except their dates.


I was referring to your use of the word "Privileged" rather than your use of the word "White" -- make no mistake --there are plenty of scary "white" teens in the world.

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So, "GrovePath"...
Are you saying Whites never start trouble or attack people? Yet, Blacks and Latinos, et al.....DO?
Henceforrth, Blacks and Latinos deserve the racist slur "wolf pack"? Yikes!

It depends who's crying wolf.

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So, "GrovePath"...

Are you saying Whites never start trouble or attack people? Yet, Blacks and Latinos, et al.....DO?

Henceforrth, Blacks and Latinos deserve the racist slur "wolf pack"?

Yikes!

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It could mean swarthy, light skinned, mullato, non-European Hispanic, gypsy, olive complextion...


its crazy that the most descriptive characteristic (race) is left out

One of the few reasons the Jersey Journal does not put race/ethnicity in the articles is the few times they do they turn out to be wrong. Witnesses are very unreliable. The last time they did post an ethnicity was when the man in Kearny was killed in an armed robbery a few months ago, they described the suspects as Hispanic males. It turned out none of them were Hispanic and three White males were arrested. That was not the first time either.

Another reason is JC/HC is very diverse and you would be surprised at how many people can't tell the difference between different races and ethnicity's. I have heard people in the past assume some Guyanese (Indian decent) and Phillipinos to be Black, Arabics and Italians to be Hispanic. Many times this is done by people that assume only certain groups dress a certain way.

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... how come when the drunk, priviliged, White teens are out and about on the PATH trains and around Grove Street...they are never referred to as "wolf packs"?


They are called a lot of things -- but never wolf packs because no one thinks they are going to attack anyone except their dates.

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Well, in the past, media almost ALWAYS put a race to the criminal only when the criminal was Black or Latino.

"A Black male...blah blah blah...."

However...when it was a White criminal...you NEVER heard or saw..."A White male was charged with...."...it was..."A male suspect...blah..."

And how come when the drunk, priviliged, White teens are out and about on the PATH trains and around Grove Street...they are never referred to as "wolf packs"?

Just some points.

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so, we know he was wearing a hat, but the paper refuses to say what color the perps were... nice work!


Actually, the perps' ethnicity aside, we have a pretty good description - if anyone was in the vicinity, and remembers seeing these guys, it could provide JCPD with clues as to their whereabouts, maybe even an address.

The poor guy that was beat up may not have been able to give a really good description beyond what we see in the article. Was it 12:15 in the morning? Too dark to see better? People like to jump on the anti-PC bandwagon, but a useful description needs so much more than race!

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It could mean swarthy, light skinned, mullato, non-European Hispanic, gypsy, olive complextion...


its crazy that the most descriptive characteristic (race) is left out

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Does \"pale\" mean \"white?\"

It could mean swarthy, light skinned, mullato, non-European Hispanic, gypsy, olive complextion...

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Does "pale" mean "white?"

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After seeing the last 5 posts, Healy might want to take back is statement that crime is down, sure does not look that way.

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so, we know he was wearing a hat, but the paper refuses to say what color the perps were... nice work!

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Heights man beaten, robbed in Pershing Field

Saturday, January 30, 2010

A Jersey City Heights man was badly beaten and robbed by three men in Pershing Field early yesterday morning and was taken to Christ Hospital for treatment, officials said.

The 29-year-old Sherman Avenue man told police he was walking through the park at 12:15 when three men asked him for the time and then demanded his cell phone, reports said. When the victim refused, all three attacked him, beating him about the head and face, reports said. The man handed over his phone and $80 but they continued to beat him before running away, reports said.

The victim described the first robber as being tall and thin with long black hair and wearing blue jeans and a thick black coat, reports said. The second robber was short and pale, wearing blue jeans, a black jacket and black skull cap, reports said, adding that the last robber also wore blue jeans and a black jacket.

Anyone with information on the crime is asked to call the Jersey City Police Department tip line at (201) 547-JAIL.

MICHAELANGELO CONTE

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