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...too bad, call the Wahm bulance. This won't be the end of Christie but it makes him and his cronies look petty and childish.


What's significant - this scandal will mark the end of Christie's presidential aspirations.


http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/20 ... o-bridge-controversy?lite

Emails tie Christie administration to bridge controversy

By Mark Murray and Michael O'Brien, NBC News

Explosive emails released Wednesday are casting a potential cloud over New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie?s presidential prospects for 2016.

The revealing conversations between state officials suggest for the first time that politics -- from the highest levels of Christie's administration -- may have played a role in last fall's controversial closure of local access lanes to the congested George Washington Bridge in Fort Lee, N.J. in the midst of Christie?s re-election campaign.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie reacts to a speech by 11th-grader, Diana Paneque, during a gathering at Colin Powell elementary school in heavily Hispanic Union City, N.J., Tuesday, Jan. 7, 2014.

Democrats have charged the closures were an attempt at political retribution for Ft. Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, a Democrat who declined to endorse Christie's re-election effort last year and whose city sits in the shadow of the bridge.

But the emails threaten to undercut the governor's strong denial that politics played any role in the closure.

"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," Christie Deputy Chief of Staff Bridget Anne Kelly wrote to Christie Port Authority aide David Wildstein on Aug. 13, weeks before the lane closures that snarled traffic on the first day of school in New Jersey last fall.

Wildstein replied, "Got it."

In one of the more revealing exchanges, an unidentified person sent this text message about delayed school buses to Wildstein on Sept. 10, the second day of the lane closures:

"Is it wrong that I am smiling?"


NBC's Mark Murray and MSNBC's Steve Kornacki discuss the latest developments on the Chris Christie "Bridgegate."

Wildstein: "No."

Person: "I feel badly about the kids. I guess."

Wildstein: "They are the children of Buono voters."

Buono is the Democrat whom Christie defeated in last year's gubernatorial race.

Christie has denied involvement with the lane closures, and "absolutely, unequivocally" denied that the closures were politically motivated after accepting the resignation of a top port authority official in December.

Ahead of his reelection last fall, Christie was seeking endorsements from North Jersey Democrats to promote his ability to forge bipartisanship. Christie and his team did attract several endorsements from North Jersey Democrats, but there were some holdouts, including the Mayor of Fort Lee, just across the Hudson River from Manhattan.

One day last September, two bridge access lanes to the George Washington Bridge from Fort Lee were cut off ? a bridge that is the busiest in the world, according to the Port Authority.

New Jersey Port Authority officials said it was for a traffic study. But the mayor of Fort Lee charged that it was political retribution for not endorsing Christie, something thought to be a far-flung charge. That is until a hearing looking into the matter in December seemed to give some credence to that theory.

A New York Port Authority official testified that he was unaware of any such study. Two Christie appointees wound up resigning.

Now these emails, released to state investigators by subpoena, reveal the greater depth to which Christie aides sought payback against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, derided by one Christie aide in the released emails as a ?little Serbian? and threatening that ?it will be a tough November? for him.

NBC New York and other news outlets report that Wildstein supplied the exchanges in response to a subpoena by state lawmakers investigating the lane closures. Wildstein, the former port authority's director of interstate capital projects, resigned in December shortly before Bill Baroni, the deputy executive director of the New York-New Jersey Port Authority, also resigned.

NBC News has reached out to Christie's office for comment, but has yet to hear back.

NBC News' Michael O'Brien contributed.



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You mean Bridge-ette Anne Kelly.

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Down with Bridget Anne Kelly!

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bjay, yes, I noticed it, too. What's up with that? Does he just mean that Fulop is on his hate list, too?


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Fulop not popular with Christie ally at the Port Authority, per email on GWB closures

Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal

on January 08, 2014 at 11:18 AM, updated January 08, 2014 at 1:09 PM


An ally of Gov. Chris Christie at the center of the George Washington Bridge lane closing flap doesn't think too much of Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop, according to an email obtained by the Star-Ledger.
Former Port Authority official David Wildstein, who resigned in December after being implicated in the scandal, responded on Sept. 9 to an email from a member of Christie?s senior staff who asked Wildstein whether the Port Authority had responded to the Fort Lee mayor?s complaints about the lane closures, according to The Record.
?Radio silence,? Wildstein wrote. ?His name comes right after Mayor Fulop.?
Fulop was persona non grata for Christie?s office, the mayor says, because he declined to endorse the Republican governor?s reelection bid last year. Fulop told The Record this week that after he told Christie?s political team that he wouldn?t endorse him, the governor?s office canceled a host of meetings the new mayor had scheduled.
Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich has accused Christie?s allies of closing three local access lanes to the George Washington Bridge because Sokolich wouldn?t endorse Christie, a charge Christie has denied. The September lane closings led to days of traffic nightmares in the Bergen County borough.
In a statement, Fulop said the emails "shed an unfortunate light on Trenton politics."
In November, Fulop said he planned to file a $400 million lawsuit against the Port Authority, further angering officials at the bi-state agency. The Port Authority owes the money in back taxes, fines and other fees, according to Fulop.

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Why were the Port Authority emails heavily redacted? Is it trying to protect someone from Trafficgate????

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That email chain is not looking too good for Christie. Pretty blatant and petty move by him and his cronies. Imagine the poor special needs kids trapped for hours in their tiny school buses? Ugly, ugly scandal.

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Could be. But maybe it's more pointed than that. These clowns were emailing about Baroni refusing to return a call to a mayor regarding an urgent problem. Maybe Fulop had called the Port Authority regarding JC issues, and Baroni was making a point of not returning Fulop's calls as political retribution.

This could get very interesting in connection with JC's disputes with the Port Authority. JC's lawyers better make sure to subpoena these folks' Gmail accounts.

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bjay, yes, I noticed it, too. What's up with that? Does he just mean that Fulop is on his hate list, too?

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...too bad, call the Wahm bulance. This won't be the end of Christie but it makes him and his cronies look petty and childish.


What's significant - this scandal will mark the end of Christie's presidential aspirations.


YES!! Yeah!

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Single payer has what to do with us having a bi-racial POTUS, or any of the other things you said?

Luckily I can afford concierge type healthcare, so I get same day doctor visits on the rare occasion when I need them.


Among the many "big lies" is that managed care is ALWAYS a long wait. I have had HMO for decades, and have usually been able to see a primary care same or next day if I need to. Couple of weeks ago I was feeling poorly, called my primary, was in within an hour and diagnosed with flu.

And what single payer has to do with it is that most liberals would prefer single payer, but that's beyond the power even of a liberal bi-racial POTUS. In the USA, once you create a corporate behemoth, whether it's banking, health insurance or defense, it becomes your master.

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Which, again is ironic since Benghazi hasn't stopped Hillary. That's how it's done. Act as if nothing happened, full steam ahead!

Christie will be fine.


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...too bad, call the Wahm bulance. This won't be the end of Christie but it makes him and his cronies look petty and childish.


What's significant - this scandal will mark the end of Christie's presidential aspirations.

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Did anyone notice the email exchange on page 5, about Bill Baroni not returning the call to Ft. Lee mayor Sokolich?

"Did he return the call?"

"Radio silence
His names comes right after mayor Fulop."

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...too bad, call the Wahm bulance. This won't be the end of Christie but it makes him and his cronies look petty and childish.


What's significant - this scandal will mark the end of Christie's presidential aspirations.

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Gosh, this sounds exactly like the people connecting Obama/Hillary to the IRS/NSA/Benghazi issues, yet somehow those concerns aren't valid. I can't help but chuckle at the hypocrisy.


You may be interested to know that Christie cancelled all public appearances today.

So keep up your nonsensical talk about IRS/NSA/Benghazi /etc...

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C'mon, man.

His office knew about it a month in advance, yet no one else knew about it until 3 days before the closure. The info provided to Wisniewski is full of redactions. No one has produced any traffic studies from the closure. On September 9th, Christie did not scream about the incompetence of the PA for a lack of notification.

Either there was a whole string of incompetence about public notice (unlikely), or it was done intentionally. Based on Christie's well-known penchant for petty political revenge, and the facts we have so far, the latter seems far more likely.



Gosh, this sounds exactly like the people connecting Obama/Hillary to the IRS/NSA/Benghazi issues, yet somehow those concerns aren't valid. I can't help but chuckle at the hypocrisy.


No connection to Benghazi has been made. It was shown to be spontaneous and then whipped up by local militia leaders angered by a anti-Islamic film. I support the NSA which has been around since looooong before Obama. The IRS investigations happen all the time to all types of organizations. Too bad, call the Wahm bulance. This won't be the end of Christie but it makes him and his cronies look petty and childish.

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C'mon, man.

His office knew about it a month in advance, yet no one else knew about it until 3 days before the closure. The info provided to Wisniewski is full of redactions. No one has produced any traffic studies from the closure. On September 9th, Christie did not scream about the incompetence of the PA for a lack of notification.

Either there was a whole string of incompetence about public notice (unlikely), or it was done intentionally. Based on Christie's well-known penchant for petty political revenge, and the facts we have so far, the latter seems far more likely.



Gosh, this sounds exactly like the people connecting Obama/Hillary to the IRS/NSA/Benghazi issues, yet somehow those concerns aren't valid. I can't help but chuckle at the hypocrisy.

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Pride comes before the fall

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I'm wondering if I'm the only one who is actually getting a hard-on from this development.

Yes, it would be difficult to prove Christie ordered this and is directly responsible.

But I'm sure there will be more revelations to come. Keep your fingers crossed whichever the side of this you are on.

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Why do you suppose the emails were sent from their personal accounts and not the work related ones??? It's work related isn't it??? Or, perhaps they didn't want to get caught and had to speak in "code".



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Wait, where in this article, or any article, is there a definitive link to Christie? Note, if he is responsible, I will call for his head too. But, much like the clowns speculating about the Rutger kids death in the canal, there still is no direct link.

If all the lib-lefties on here think this is a link, then it's just as valid to connect Barry Obama to all of his scandals (NSA, IRS, Benghazi), to which all of you say there is no direct link (even though Obama is, ultimately, in charge).

That's not off-topic, that's a direct comparison of how most of you refuse to see the obvious unless it tells your narrative.

Like I said, if Christie directly ordered this, then screw him. But, until that proof comes out, let's take the speculation down a notch.

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Until I see something tying Chris Christie himself to the lane closures (not his 'office') it's all ado about nothing....

C'mon, man.

His office knew about it a month in advance, yet no one else knew about it until 3 days before the closure. The info provided to Wisniewski is full of redactions. No one has produced any traffic studies from the closure. On September 9th, Christie did not scream about the incompetence of the PA for a lack of notification.

Either there was a whole string of incompetence about public notice (unlikely), or it was done intentionally. Based on Christie's well-known penchant for petty political revenge, and the facts we have so far, the latter seems far more likely.


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On the other hand, all the Christie haters better not get too gleeful about this, since Fulop's decision to blockade the trucks coming from the Port Authority....

I think it's time you stop deflecting.

Christie is not less culpable because of any actions by Fulop or Cuomo or Hilary Clinton or Obama. Slamming other politicians for unrelated events or decisions doesn't change anything about what happened. It's just that simple.

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Wait, where in this article, or any article, is there a definitive link to Christie? Note, if he is responsible, I will call for his head too. But, much like the clowns speculating about the Rutger kids death in the canal, there still is no direct link.

If all the lib-lefties on here think this is a link, then it's just as valid to connect Barry Obama to all of his scandals (NSA, IRS, Benghazi), to which all of you say there is no direct link (even though Obama is, ultimately, in charge).

That's not off-topic, that's a direct comparison of how most of you refuse to see the obvious unless it tells your narrative.

Like I said, if Christie directly ordered this, then screw him. But, until that proof comes out, let's take the speculation down a notch.

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[Note to Webmaster - there is a poster on this thread that continually takes the discussion off topic. Perhaps he is suffering from ADD? Can we stay on topic - and keep it local? ]

Christie has been caught red handed!

An email message to the central figure in the fray surrounding the closure of traffic lanes to the George Washington Bridge links a top aide to Governor Chris Christie to the growing scandal. "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee," the aide to Christie, Bridget Ann Kelly wrote to David Wildstein. A minute later, Wildstein replied "got it."

In GWB Hearing, "Abberant" and "Illegal" Behavior by Christie Aides
Meet the 9 People Entangled in the GWB Scandal
The email was sent on August 13 from Kelly's private yahoo account, a month before Wildstein, a top Christie appointee in the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey abruptly ordered the lane closures, which caused a work week's worth of traffic jams in Fort Lee. The Mayor of Fort Lee, did not endorse Chris Christie for re-election, and it's been widely speculated that the non-endorsement was the cause of the closures, a charge Christie has denied.

But according to sworn testimony, the closures were "at variance" with normal procedure and were done abruptly the first week of September, without knowledge of the Mayor of Fort Lee or of Pat Foye, the Port Authority Executive Director, an appointee of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who jointly controls the bi-state authority with Christie.

Kelly is Christie's deputy chief of staff for legislative and intergovernmental affairs -- making her directly in charge of handling relationships with local officials, like Mayor Mark Sokolich.

Christie had assured reporters that he'd spoken to everybody in his senior staff and that they'd assured him they were not involved in the lane closures. Christie also said that his campaign manager, Bill Sepian, also knew nothing about them - though the emails contain extensive commentary to the contrary.

Kelly had taken over for Sepian, who left the administration to manage the Christie re-election campaign. Two weeks ago, Sepian was appointed to the Republican Governor's Association, which Christie heads. Just yesterday, Sepian became the head of the Republican Party in New Jersey.

Right after the closures, the emails show, Sepian called Mayor Sokolich "an idiot," and Fort Lee is described as "Serbia" -- an outlier.

"It will be a tough November for this little Serbian,"Wildstein wrote.

The emails were obtained by WNYC a day before Wildstein is to testify before the NJ Assembly Transportation Committee.

An unknown texter said to Wildstein "is it wrong that I'm smiling?" "No," Wildstein replied. "I feel badly about the kids, I guess," the texter wrote, referring to the fact that the traffic jams came on the first day of school, catching school buses in their web. Wildstein responds "they are the children of Buono voters," referring to Barbara Buono, the Democratic candidate who was running against Christie.

Wildstein was Christie's former high school buddy who went on to be his point man at the Port Authority. Wildstein resigned in December, calling the bridge scandal a distraction. Bill Baroni, Christie's top Port Authority appointee, also resigned.

The email chain is below. ...
http://www.wnyc.org/story/email-links ... istie-aide-bridge-fracas/

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Until I see something tying Chris Christie himself to the lane closures (not his 'office') it's all ado about nothing. Likely it was an overzealous staffer thinking she was doing her boss a solid.

Like the people in the PA that he forced to resign, he'll do the right thing and fire this woman as well.

That's what leaders do.

On the other hand, all the Christie haters better not get too gleeful about this, since Fulop's decision to blockade the trucks coming from the Port Authority ship terminal for 'safety reasons', while in a dispute over $400 million he says the PA owes Jersey City, appears eerily similar, causing similar traffic jams. Except that Fulop is tied directly to that himself. If the drive-by media is getting their panties all moist over Christie and cone-gate, then this would warrant similar attention, no?


Swing and a miss. The JCPD wrote 52 tickets and traffic was moving again by 10:00am. These guys are mobsters and have been getting a pass for too long.

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I have 5 employees that work for me and they don't send emails on my behalf without me knowing about it. Lets not make excuses for a bully who's staff did a shitty thing. If he did not know what his staff was doing, what kind of leader is that? Not a very good one.


I guess than you'll be shredding Obama over IRSgate?

Or Mrs. Clinton over Benghazi??

Please don't be partisan.


LMAO!!!! Spin it baby!!! I love it.

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I have 5 employees that work for me and they don't send emails on my behalf without me knowing about it. Lets not make excuses for a bully who's staff did a shitty thing. If he did not know what his staff was doing, what kind of leader is that? Not a very good one.


I guess than you'll be shredding Obama over IRSgate?

Or Mrs. Clinton over Benghazi??

Please don't be partisan.

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I have 5 employees that work for me and they don't send emails on my behalf without me knowing about it. Lets not make excuses for a bully who's staff did a shitty thing. If he did not know what his staff was doing, what kind of leader is that? Not a very good one.

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