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The NJ.com article states that this Whole Foods will be at the corner of "Marin and Columbus, which is not even really possible. As of now, the hulking monstrosity of a co-op tower is situated near the Marin/Columbus corner of the property. There is no way a 45k SF supermarket is fitting in that corner. So, the Whole Foods has to be going directly across Columbus from 70 Columbus, between the two Motropolis Towers, or at the corner of Marin and Montgomery.

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Geez, walk up Christopher left on Grove. Up Montgomery across van vorst. Up bright And all told under 10 min. Or u can theorize with Google maps for an hour. Your choice


I lived on Bright and Varick. It's more than a 10 minute walk and will be close to 15 if carrying groceries.

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The point is that shopping center has space. And parking!

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Geez, walk up Christopher left on Grove. Up Montgomery across van vorst. Up bright And all told under 10 min. Or u can theorize with Google maps for an hour. Your choice


I used to make the walk from Grove PATH to that Pathmark plaza twice a week.

Google, crows, whatever. I can tell you, it's a real schlepp. (And I enjoy walking.)


Agreed. I used to live over in BeLa and used to do that walk all the time. Considering the ground distance, many turns, and intersections, no one is walking that distance in 10 minutes. And, come Summer, it gets worse because of the heat and humidity.

But, yeah, some people in here live in fantasy lands devoid of the laws of physics or logic. To think people would want to walk all the way there to then come back to DTJC to grab some groceries is just silly. With so many WF and TJ locations in NYC that are actually close to PATH stations, I am sure many potential customers would choose to pick up stuff over there and just bring it on the PATH with them to go straight home.

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Geez, walk up Christopher left on Grove. Up Montgomery across van vorst. Up bright And all told under 10 min. Or u can theorize with Google maps for an hour. Your choice


I used to make the walk from Grove PATH to that Pathmark plaza twice a week.

Google, crows, whatever. I can tell you, it's a real schlepp. (And I enjoy walking.)

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Geez, walk up Christopher left on Grove. Up Montgomery across van vorst. Up bright And all told under 10 min. Or u can theorize with Google maps for an hour. Your choice

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Old colony shopping center is 1/2 mile from the Grove St path. Hardly unwalkable.


Not true, unless you are talking about distance as the crow flies. The distance from Grove Street PATH station to Old Colony is just shy of a mile, which is why people are not going to be walking all the way there to then back track. Google Maps walking directions.

It is close to half a mile, it just has to with how you entered it in to Google Maps. From Columbus and Grove to Monmouth and Bright is .6 miles. Google Maps take you the long way. I doubt you would walk that way if you was getting off the Path and take Grand. 15 minutes give or take no matter how you get there isn't a long walk regardless.


You must be one of those people that, when asked about his commute, only considers the time traveling from station to station. Measuring from the intersections of Columbus/Grove to Bright/Monmouth completely misses the point: the PATH exit is further in, and the entrance of what was Pathmark was certainly not at the intersection of Bright and Monmouth. You got one thing right, it's about 15 minutes walking. How many people are coming back from work and wanting to schlep 15 minutes out of their way to grocery shop and then walk another 10 or 15 minutes back while carrying groceries? I would sooner walk 5 minutes from the TriBeCa or 7th Avenue locations to the WTC or 23rd stations.

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Old colony shopping center is 1/2 mile from the Grove St path. Hardly unwalkable.


Not true, unless you are talking about distance as the crow flies. The distance from Grove Street PATH station to Old Colony is just shy of a mile, which is why people are not going to be walking all the way there to then back track. Google Maps walking directions.

It is close to half a mile, it just has to with how you entered it in to Google Maps. From Columbus and Grove to Monmouth and Bright is .6 miles. Google Maps take you the long way. I doubt you would walk that way if you was getting off the Path and take Grand. 15 minutes give or take no matter how you get there isn't a long walk regardless.

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I really hope this summer brings an end to downtown being a grocery desert for those that don't own a car.


You're kidding right?


Key Foods, Shop Rite, Tender Shoot, that friendly Korean grocer on Bay Street, the place across from La Conguita....

downtown is hardly the Sahara.


For whatever reason, there is this misconception that DTJC is a grocery store dessert, but that is way, way off. In addition to Shoprite and BJs, there is the Conga Supermarket (which is surprisingly vast in its stock, and available produce) plus the various small Korean grocers, and there is also that new organic place over Union Republic, Subia's, and not too far from DTJC there is Hudson Greene Market in PH and Morton Williams in Newport.

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Key Foods, Shop Rite, Tender Shoot, that friendly Korean grocer on Bay Street, the place across from La Conguita....

downtown is hardly the Sahara.

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In case you haven't heard, a 99 Ranch is what is replacing the Pathmark spot. Should definitely be an asset.


I don't know how big the old Pathmark was but they usually open large stores, think Asian Food with a restaurant.
Their stores in CA are huge they are also opening a store in Hackensack.

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Not true, unless you are talking about distance as the crow flies. The distance from Grove Street PATH station to Old Colony is just shy of a mile, which is why people are not going to be walking all the way there to then back track. Google Maps walking directions.

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In case you haven't heard, a 99 Ranch is what is replacing the Pathmark spot. Should definitely be an asset.

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They just reinforced the balconys maybe they will reface them eventually. Old colony shopping center is 1/2 mile from the Grove St path. Hardly unwalkable. Hopefully whatever finally gets built there will be an asset to the neighborhood. As for liberty harbor I would not hold your breath. There is still nothing happening at the tilted kilt spot or the retail space under gulls cove that was to be Sawa

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From what I've heard, the building that's part of Liberty Harbor North that's going up at Jersey and Grand (across the street from Brownstone Diner) is supposed to have 20k retail square footage and some sort of upscale grocery store was planned - there could be room for a Trader Joe's. Anybody hear any updates on what's ultimately planned for that building?

We've also got the Sunac Natural Market coming in at 70 Columbus and (hopefully) 99 Ranch is still planned to open up where the Pathmark was.

I really hope this summer brings an end to downtown being a grocery desert for those that don't own a car.

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Completely agree about Metropolis Towers - a horrible eyesore. Unfortunately, the renderings appear to show the towers in the background, so I don't think they're going anywhere.

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so what happens to this thread now? its by far one of the longest running, most popular threads on this site. "2nd Whole Foods in JC?"


Nothing will happen, it will be soon filled with all the complainers crying they did not have my gluten free (insert some food that no one eats here) or some check out girl/boy was rude. The usual JClist shit. Fortunately I don't plan to be in JC in 2020, enjoy.


The next stage is all the people who will say the prices are too high and want to start a boycott of WF to bring the prices down to a level they can afford.


HA!!! and that too

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Whole Foods opening Jersey City location in 2020

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Whole Foods is coming to Jersey City.

The upscale supermarket announced this afternoon that it will open a market near the Grove Street PATH station in 2020.

Plans are for a 45,000-square-foot Whole Foods Market on the site of Metropolis Towers, at Columbus Drive and Marin Boulevard. That's more than twice the size of the Whole Foods in Montclair, one of Whole Foods' 15 New Jersey locations.

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ity_location_opening.html



sht just got real! best new so far this year!!! so happy

the metropolis tower next to it is really ghetto though, i wonder if they going to demolish it.

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so what happens to this thread now? its by far one of the longest running, most popular threads on this site. "2nd Whole Foods in JC?"


Nothing will happen, it will be soon filled with all the complainers crying they did not have my gluten free (insert some food that no one eats here) or some check out girl/boy was rude. The usual JClist shit. Fortunately I don't plan to be in JC in 2020, enjoy.


The next stage is all the people who will say the prices are too high and want to start a boycott of WF to bring the prices down to a level they can afford.

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so what happens to this thread now? its by far one of the longest running, most popular threads on this site. "2nd Whole Foods in JC?"


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so what happens to this thread now? its by far one of the longest running, most popular threads on this site. "2nd Whole Foods in JC?"

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nice to know the very few times i need some obscure hipster vegetable or something that only they have, i won't have to go into the city to get it.

95%+ of my grocery shopping will still be done at shoprite, key foods, tender shoots/p&k on newark and the farmers markets, but good for the people who like paying more for the same things.


IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT


PK has Loquats. Abort construction of the Whole Foods. I repeat, PK is selling Loquats.

You snooze, you lose, WF.

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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... g.html#incart_2box_hudson


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I agree with the argument that having it closer to a larger percentage of potential shoppers is a better plan, we're talking about Whole Foods and the fact that those wishing to shop there would most certainly make the schlep up the hill if it were placed in JSQ. I don't believe they'd lose any profits.

The whole point is moot though since they are going to be at Grove St.

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Best place in JC to put it - like the traffic isn't a cluster-f there already on the weekends. Way to go King Steve.


Great cities don't turn down amenities because of traffic.

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Old Colony is fringe at best. In 10 years I imagine it will be desirable but WF doesn't seem to be the type to precede the market or set the tone. They locate in established locations.

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The old colony shopping center would be the best place for it. Don't know why that didn't happen. I also wonder what type of deal was struck. Metropolis is a co op so each owner should get a piece of this.


Not to mention that a large draw of WF locations in urban areas is their accessibility for those on foot. Old Colony is a good location for people with cars, but too far for the masses that rely on PATH. Not a whole lot of people would like to walk all the way to Old Colony and then back track. By choosing the area right outside of the Grove Street PATH plaza, they are being smart: they will get a lot of foot traffic from commuters coming home after work, but will also capture customers who may be heading out of JC by car. Check out any WF or TJ location that is close to subway and PATH stations around 5 - 6 PM and you will be faced with long lines. As with real estate: location, location, location.

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Old Colony is fringe at best. In 10 years I imagine it will be desirable but WF doesn't seem to be the type to precede the market or set the tone. They locate in established locations.

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Unicorn is coming to JC.

Does this mean that I now can jack up the rent for my property?
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No alcohol? Really?


Supermarket chains are only allowed 2 liquor licenses for the entire state.


Whole Foods sells alcohol at their locations in Vauxhall, Red Bank, and Paramus.


They have a consumption license to sell wine and beer in Vauxhall in the restaurant attached, they don't sell wine, beer, or liquors in the supermarket.

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nice to know the very few times i need some obscure hipster vegetable or something that only they have, i won't have to go into the city to get it.

95%+ of my grocery shopping will still be done at shoprite, key foods, tender shoots/p&k on newark and the farmers markets, but good for the people who like paying more for the same things.


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The old colony shopping center would be the best place for it. Don't know why that didn't happen. I also wonder what type of deal was struck. Metropolis is a co op so each owner should get a piece of this.

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