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Re: Newark Avenue Pedestrian Plaza Expansion
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sounds like a nice idea.

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I know what I am talking about because I live near and take Newark Avenue frequently. This is not different than being on the turnpike or some other road. The accident or the construction barrier a mile away causes slows down that filter down to all the cars.

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Yvonne has never allowed facts to derail her narrative. She has been claiming that the pedestrian plaza causes backups in JSQ for 2+ years now. It is a plainly false claim, but she refuses to admit she is wrong. For anyone that spends ANY time on Newark Avenue, it is clear that there is no link between congestion in Little India and JSQ and the pedestrian plaza in DTJC.

The only thing causing delays, backups, and inconveniences in the vicinity of the pedestrian plaza are the illegally parked vehicles that choose to park and double park in the most inopportune places, like the assholes that double park to patronize Torico's, or the many badge displaying cars that park in clearly marked "No Parking Allowed" zones in the triangle area between Bay, Erie, and Newark, or the people that park in bus areas along Newark Avenue, forcing buses to stop in the travel lanes. If officers would patrol the vicinity of Newark Avenue to prevent those things, then traffic would flow much better.

Posted on: 4/26 8:08
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Wait, what does the pedestrian plaza on Newark between Erie and Grove have to do with traffic in India Square and by Monteleone's?


Apparently Newark Ave at India Square is the next pedestrian plaza planned.

Posted on: 4/25 23:25
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Wait, what does the pedestrian plaza on Newark between Erie and Grove have to do with traffic in India Square and by Monteleone's?


Apparently Yvonne lives in a "Butterfly Effect" world where anything she doesn't like causes any problem anywhere she cares to point out. Presumably the Newark Plaza also is responsible for war in the Middle East.

Posted on: 4/25 17:45
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Wait, what does the pedestrian plaza on Newark between Erie and Grove have to do with traffic in India Square and by Monteleone's?

I agree that traffic in India Square can be a pain, and it has been made worse by the Skyway/Route 139 work and Waze routing drivers onto Newark Ave through India Square to get around that construction mess.

But that has nothing to do with a one-block pedestrian plaza on the other side of town.

I walk up to Monteleone's from time to time. There's a CitiBike dock near there too. I should stop by and pickup some cookies and pastries, maybe this weekend.

Posted on: 4/25 17:01
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Yvonne, will you concede that the plaza has not impacted access to the medical center as you claimed it would?


I do not know if it has impact the Medical Center, but I do know traffic along Newark Avenue from Jersey City to the Kennedy Blvd (Indian Square) is back up always since that particular street was closed. I know someone who stopped going to Monteleone Bakery due to this problem. This person orders their cakes there going back decades.


as a frequent Newark Ave traveler, I can report that this is patently false. condolences on your friend's cake loss.

Posted on: 4/25 16:08
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lol yeah right. I go up and Down Newark Ave almost every day, the traffic isn't any worse than it used to be except for the construction by the cemetery. There is never any traffic backup around Newark & Jersey Ave. The idea that it's backing up all the way to Monteleone's is just fantasy.

Posted on: 4/25 14:55
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Yvonne, will you concede that the plaza has not impacted access to the medical center as you claimed it would?


I do not know if it has impact the Medical Center, but I do know traffic along Newark Avenue from Jersey City to the Kennedy Blvd (Indian Square) is back up always since that particular street was closed. I know someone who stopped going to Monteleone Bakery due to this problem. This person orders their cakes there going back decades.

Posted on: 4/25 13:55
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There is no law telling the public to stop knocking down properties until the city council votes on this.


On the Council agenda tonight, I believe.

Posted on: 4/25 13:13
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will they actually plant it this time, though? the renderings for the original plaza promised a lot more greenery than what was delivered. I love our little slice of walkability, but it isn't nearly what it could be, in terms of aesthetics.

Posted on: 4/25 11:54
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Yvonne, will you concede that the plaza has not impacted access to the medical center as you claimed it would?

Posted on: 4/25 11:00
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You better believe Yvonne is faxing the talking points to the neighborhood associations and is ordering her people to line up against this. This won't happen without a fight.


You really have a problem, nicky. My problem with closing Newark Avenue has to do with the procedure. Only the city council can create laws, not the mayor. Executive privilege is limited and cannot be imposed on the public. The mayor has the right to use executive privilge on employees. Only the city council can imposed laws on the public such as closing streets. They did later. But it is an abuse of power, the same thing is now happening with the executive privilege of stopping homeowners from knocking down buildings. The council creates the laws, the mayor runs the city. There is no law telling the public to stop knocking down properties until the city council votes on this.

Posted on: 4/25 9:57
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You better believe Yvonne is faxing the talking points to the neighborhood associations and is ordering her people to line up against this. This won't happen without a fight.

Posted on: 4/25 7:12
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I am surprised this hasn't been posted yet...
https://twitter.com/stevenfulop/status/988399597709086722?s=12

I hope to see it become reality. The pedestrian plaza has been a commendable effort by the mayor and his administration. Of course, lots of NIMBYs and old timers averse to change are already complaining about any expansion of the plaza.

Also, if the LSP bridge becomes a reality, a pedestrian plaza would be a good way to counterbalance the increase in traffic and its implications for pedestrian safety.

Posted on: 4/25 6:54
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