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Proceed with caution. You are not in waters for which you know a great deal. Most people don’t, which is why this is the “controversy” that it is...
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Nonsense. No one knows anything about Hilary's basement server. Nada. Zilch. Anyone saying it could be more secure than one used by the POTUS and Sec of State without knowing anything is an idiot.

Right here is where you are wrong. Finding information about whether a domain has some form PGP/GPG encryption is not that difficult.

For this, I’ll go with Jonathan Mayer and his tests on her servers as well as State servers over your declaration of "anyone knowing anything is an idiot." There may be no exact setup for what her servers were like during that time, but I find it hard to believe there wasn’t a level of SSL.

The fact is email isn’t secure. Period. The only secure email is one not sent.

Colin Powell stated that he used his personal email address alone while he was Secretary of State and that he doesn't have those emails anymore. Aside from the fact that we know he was part of the big lie that landed our soldiers in Iraq and ultimately lead to the creation of ISIS, is this a scandal? I'll say no because these people weren't doing State business via email.


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Second, she set it up precisely before she became Sec of State to avoid accountability. She takes a trip to Libya, is seen in photographs working her Blackberry-and the Benghazi panel can't find a SINGLE email from that trip.

She could have been emailing her daughter. She could have been emailing Bill to tell him to get his hands off some woman's ass. She could have been checking text messages. She could have been playing Candy Crush. You can find me on my phone quite often and it doesn’t mean I’m always emailing.

I will also point out that she did turn over emails for her trip. The committee people are just complaining to complain now.

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Third, she's tried this before-when her hubbie was POTUS, she tried to have phone lines placed in the private quarters that didn't go through the White House switchboard. Her request then was denied, of course.

Ok. Your point is…?

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Fourth, 'not every' politician did it. Had Christie done the same, then had staffers go through his email to 'select' what to release to the traffic gate investigators (and hard copies at that) would you be saying the same thing? 'It's no biggie'? Hardly.

For one, the two are not the same. There is actual factual evidence that people in the Christie administration intentionally shut down the GWB. There is no evidence of wrongdoing with Benghazi.

Second, I've discussed this issue elsewhere and I'm disappointed by the news of Hillary's decision because of its image. I don’t think she is covering things up, but she allowed that image to show up.

The woman is a politician. She has grand aspirations, like all politicians. She’s no different than Christie in a lot of ways and a heck of a lot better in other ways. I wouldn't want to spend a weekend with any of them, but that doesn't mean that they have emails out there talking about Vince Foster or that she orchestrated the attack in Benghazi.

All I see are conspiracy theories based on little more than the fact that people don't like the woman. Heck, I'm not even a fan of Hillary and this simply doesn't register much on my give-a-shit-ometer...

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Nonsense. No one knows anything about Hilary's basement server. Nada. Zilch. Anyone saying it could be more secure than one used by the POTUS and Sec of State without knowing anything is an idiot.

Second, she set it up precisely before she became Sec of State to avoid accountability. She takes a trip to Libya, is seen in photographs working her Blackberry-and the Benghazi panel can't find a SINGLE email from that trip.

Third, she's tried this before-when her hubbie was POTUS, she tried to have phone lines placed in the private quarters that didn't go through the White House switchboard. Her request then was denied, of course.

Fourth, 'not every' politician did it. Had Christie done the same, then had staffers go through his email to 'select' what to release to the traffic gate investigators (and hard copies at that) would you be saying the same thing? 'It's no biggie'? Hardly.
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When both the NYTimes AND Senator Diane Feinstein calling Hilary out, you think it might be another 'vast, right wing conspiracy'?

Not for nothing, but it was pointed out by those in the industry that actually know something about email security that her personal email was more secure than State's. This isn't to say that she was correct in what she did, I certainly don't think so, but I'd be highly surprised if she was conducting State business via email.

It is a non-story that does two things:
1. Shows that she's arrogant.
2. Give talking points to those that hated her before and see this as some sort of conspiracy.

It certainly doesn't look good, but in the end it really is a silly story since every single politician does it...

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When both the NYTimes AND Senator Diane Feinstein calling Hilary out, you think it might be another 'vast, right wing conspiracy'?

Not for nothing, but it was pointed out by those in the industry that actually know something about email security that her personal email was more secure than State's. This isn't to say that she was correct in what she did, I certainly don't think so, but I'd be highly surprised if she was conducting State business via email.

It is a non-story that does two things:
1. Shows that she's arrogant.
2. Give talking points to those that hated her before and see this as some sort of conspiracy.

It certainly doesn't look good, but in the end it really is a silly story since every single politician does it...

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Fun fact: Stories don’t appear out of nowhere. The “story” existed because the information gathering portion of the investigation had started.

More fun facts, the story is at least 3 years old and was sat on... the most transparent administration collects dirt on political enemies and use when it is to their advantage... Look how they brought down Patreaus (it's only about sex) he pleaded out last week. Menendez called Obama on Iran and Cuba and the DOS knew about Hillary's private email servers since last August and it only came out in a "planted" story in the NYT. She is weeks away from announcing and locking up all the fat cat democrat donors?
Wait for the Bengahzi emails to break.... and she never sent the President one email during her 4 years, as he said the other night on CBS.

As for Holder, he wouldn’t be in his position still if the Republicans weren’t a bunch of pathetic children...

And the inept Holder? With the typos not sure of your point, but he was burning out from managing all the scandals... he had to extend his stay to make sure cover stories stick and avoid a John Mitchell like problem. They are clearing up the books (evening the scores) so the nominated AG Lynch does not have to get her hands dirty riding out the end of this term. I am sure it was part of the job offer. She is not a fool.

As for Hillary, I have no idea what you think she’s done wrong, but I can probably put some good money on it being either completely false or completely absurd.

Surprising you missed the email story, all the main stream media is reporting it... where do I collect this easy cash money bet? Just remember... it all Bush's fault!

If you think Hillary hosting a personal server is a "scandal" why aren't you killing every other Secretary of State, before Kerry? So, like I said, "completely absurd."

Lynch's nominee is up. The Republicans are the reason she's not in the job yet. It has zero to do with Holder. I don't know what conspiracy crack you're smoking, but I suggest putting the pipe down.

I like that you run with "it all Bush's fault!" as if I have ever written that.

Menendez's info wasn't "sat on for 3 years." The information came out when it came out. It has nothing to do with his absurdly poor positions on Cuba and Iran.

Hillary's email information has nothing to do with her basically walking through to the nominee.

The Benghazi thing has been done to death. Are you looking for a fifth investigation into it? It's sad that this is something that is continued to be harped on. I can only assume it plays well with the the feeble-minded.

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Fun fact: Stories don’t appear out of nowhere. The “story” existed because the information gathering portion of the investigation had started.

More fun facts, the story is at least 3 years old and was sat on... the most transparent administration collects dirt on political enemies and use when it is to their advantage... Look how they brought down Patreaus (it's only about sex) he pleaded out last week. Menendez called Obama on Iran and Cuba and the DOS knew about Hillary's private email servers since last August and it only came out in a "planted" story in the NYT. She is weeks away from announcing and locking up all the fat cat democrat donors?
Wait for the Bengahzi emails to break.... and she never sent the President one email during her 4 years, as he said the other night on CBS.

As for Holder, he wouldn’t be in his position still if the Republicans weren’t a bunch of pathetic children...

And the inept Holder? With the typos not sure of your point, but he was burning out from managing all the scandals... he had to extend his stay to make sure cover stories stick and avoid a John Mitchell like problem. They are clearing up the books (evening the scores) so the nominated AG Lynch does not have to get her hands dirty riding out the end of this term. I am sure it was part of the job offer. She is not a fool.

As for Hillary, I have no idea what you think she’s done wrong, but I can probably put some good money on it being either completely false or completely absurd.

Surprising you missed the email story, all the main stream media is reporting it... where do I collect this easy cash money bet? Just remember... it all Bush's fault!

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When both the NYTimes AND Senator Diane Feinstein calling Hilary out, you think it might be another 'vast, right wing conspiracy'?

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So Holder is the Chicago Hitman heading out the door... this story was out there months before Menendez's most recent election and now the DOJ just gets around to investigating??? Looks like it is the start of a good old style Soviet Kremlin purge. I wonder if Hillary is on the list?

Fun fact: Stories don’t appear out of nowhere. The “story” existed because the information gathering portion of the investigation had started.

As for Holder, he wouldn’t be in his position still if the Republicans weren’t a bunch of pathetic children...

As for Hillary, I have no idea what you think she’s done wrong, but I can probably put some good money on it being either completely false or completely absurd.

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Given that Christie did the right thing, and didn't post a Republican for the duration of Lautenberg's term (as was his right) you should be nicer to our terrific Governor! Hopefully, he'll reappoint Chiesa for the full term if/when Menendez is forced to resign or gets convicted. So we have Menendez, who was first appointed to the Senate by dirt bag Corzine, now on his heels. Note that Corzine didn't call for a special election, like Christie did . . .

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Otherwise, that's a pretty stupid comment, given that Christie could've appointed Chiesa to stay as Senator until the next scheduled election-and didn't. Or did you not know that??


Oh yes I knew that. One day of a Republican in any elected office is one day too many. As to stupid, your continued defense of Christie is the height of stupidity.

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So Holder is the Chicago Hitman heading out the door... this story was out there months before Menendez's most recent election and now the DOJ just gets around to investigating??? Looks like it is the start of a good old style Soviet Kremlin purge. I wonder if Hillary is on the list?

Fun fact: Stories don’t appear out of nowhere. The “story” existed because the information gathering portion of the investigation had started.

As for Holder, he wouldn’t be in his position still if the Republicans weren’t a bunch of pathetic children...

As for Hillary, I have no idea what you think she’s done wrong, but I can probably put some good money on it being either completely false or completely absurd.

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Otherwise, that's a pretty stupid comment, given that Christie could've appointed Chiesa to stay as Senator until the next scheduled election-and didn't. Or did you not know that??


Oh yes I knew that. One day of a Republican in any elected office is one day too many. As to stupid, your continued defense of Christie is the height of stupidity.

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those pesky resistance bands.


(Indeed)

Outgoing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is working from home on the first day of the 114th Congress after being diagnosed with

1) broken bones in his face,
2) three broken ribs
3) and a concussion

according to a statement from his office.

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Reid recalled the painful day of the accident, noting that he and his wife Landra were in their new home in Henderson, Nevada, just outside of Las Vegas. He was performing an exercise on a large rubber band, but when it snapped, it spun him around and sent him flying into his cabinets. The crash nearly caused him to bang his temple, which could have made the accident even more serious. Sources familiar with the incident said Reid was exercising in his bathroom, with the exercise band attached to the shower door.

“It didn’t knock me out, but it sure hurt,” Reid said calmly Thursday. “And I was taken to the hospital.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01 ... 114520.html#ixzz3Tk01OGO5


Plus broke 4 ribs.... those pesky resistance bands.



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Now if we can really find out what happened to Harry Reid's face?


(He's so accident prone in the weirdest of ways...)

"(Reid) dislocated his shoulder and bumped his forehead in May 2011 when he slipped and fell during a morning jog in the rain.

Reid leaned on a wet car near his home in Washington, D.C.'s Ritz-Carlton hotel and tumbled to the ground.

That fall left him with a contusion just below his left eye, but he was back in action later that night at a fundraiser for California Sen. Barbara Boxer."

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Hudson County mover and shaker Prieto yesterday 'I'm not making any comment on the published reports about my friend today'.

He can't even say Menendez by name, lol?

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Every NJ Governor gets to pick an interim Senator if the one in office dies or gets thrown out or resigns, of course. But Christie picked a moderate one (who just rode it out) and scheduled a new election. Otherwise, that's a pretty stupid comment, given that Christie could've appointed Chiesa to stay as Senator until the next scheduled election-and didn't. Or did you not know that??

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I don't care about Menendez. The sad part of this is that scumbag Christie will get to pick a new Senator. Maybe he will pick himself given that his Presidential bid is in the toilet.

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Now if we can really find out what happened to Harry Reid's face?


(He's so accident prone in the weirdest of ways...)

"(Reid) dislocated his shoulder and bumped his forehead in May 2011 when he slipped and fell during a morning jog in the rain.

Reid leaned on a wet car near his home in Washington, D.C.'s Ritz-Carlton hotel and tumbled to the ground.

That fall left him with a contusion just below his left eye, but he was back in action later that night at a fundraiser for California Sen. Barbara Boxer."

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i always thought menendez was a d-bag. and for the record, obaamaa doesn't go after people to settle political scores

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Obama and Holder took down Patreaus earlier this week, now they are after Menendez and H. Clinton with the email. They know she is close to announcing and like all the others they have smeared, they knew about the Hillary email thing for years. They are all arrogant and they played right into Obama's hands. Now if we can really find out what happened to Harry Reid's face? Do you really think the Epstein / Plane /B. Clinton / underage girls thing just popped up by accident. And now NY State is looking at Epstein's charities? He was convicted and did his slap on the wrist 5 years ago?

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Unless they've got true, death-defying dirt, Sen. Menendez is not going anywhere. He's made of old-fashioned Hudson County teflon - grittier than ole boy Chicago any day of the week.

This will be interesting.

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Augustin Torres (JJ Political Insider Column) chimes in:

"What is obvious to most in Hudson County is that the Justice Department is in for a wild and bumpy ride. Menendez has tough DNA, having been nurtured in a hot political cauldron. While rising quickly through the North Hudson ranks, Menendez personally knew characters that you would only find in a Raymond Chandler novel, or is that Ramon Chandler - just to reflect the Cuban-American culture, including its dark side. Menendez is highly educated and smart but don't let that laugh of his fool you. He has a stare that can freeze you on the spot."

Political Insider Column


Also from that column:

"Among Hudson County Democratic politicos the feeling seems to be that several months ago, the Justice Department - in a Democratic administration -- was coming up dry, but soon after Menendez and President Obama started publicly clashing on issues like Cuba and Iran, the federal investigation seems to have been given a second breath. If you know Hudson politics, this will become fact.

Former Assemblyman Louis Manzo, who had a federal corruption case against him thrown out, agrees. And this from a guy who sided with the late Glenn Cunningham to politically battle Menendez.

"They can clean-up Capitol Hill but only choose to go after Menendez because he went after the president in how the country is dealing with Cuba and Iran -- and Menendez is a staunch ally of Israel," he said by phone. "Is it political? You bet your ass it is. Unlike Russia, where they use bullets to get rid of political headaches, in this country they use indictments."

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Augustin Torres (JJ Political Insider Column) chimes in:

"What is obvious to most in Hudson County is that the Justice Department is in for a wild and bumpy ride. Menendez has tough DNA, having been nurtured in a hot political cauldron. While rising quickly through the North Hudson ranks, Menendez personally knew characters that you would only find in a Raymond Chandler novel, or is that Ramon Chandler - just to reflect the Cuban-American culture, including its dark side. Menendez is highly educated and smart but don't let that laugh of his fool you. He has a stare that can freeze you on the spot."

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I don't care about Menendez. The sad part of this is that scumbag Christie will get to pick a new Senator. Maybe he will pick himself given that his Presidential bid is in the toilet.

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Fulop is 'suspicious' of the sources? Just what does Menendez have on Fulop? http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... enendez.html#incart_river

Well, that officially makes Fulop a politician.

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Fulop is 'suspicious' of the sources? Just what does Menendez have on Fulop? http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... enendez.html#incart_river

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So Holder is the Chicago Hitman heading out the door... this story was out there months before Menendez's most recent election and now the DOJ just gets around to investigating??? Looks like it is the start of a good old style Soviet Kremlin purge. I wonder if Hillary is on the list?

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Menendez missed going to jail in the 1980s, the feds were after Mayor Musto of Union City, Bob was a witnessed for the feds. The Italians were upset that this Cuban who Musto gave a chance turned against him. By that time Union City was more Cuban than Italian.

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First on CNN: Feds prepare criminal corruption charges against Senator Bob Menendez


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Investigate him. Jail him. Good riddance.

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Missing the obvious in this story... the DOJ does not investigate democrats... this is payback to Menendez for him sponsoring the Iran Sanctions Bill that might prevent Obama from letting Iran get the bomb and it is also sending a not so subtle message to any senator that supports the bill. Schumer was spared because he does not have the public baggage and he is a WH favorite, but he is on the list if the senate does not come around.

Ok...

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Am surprised he was riding on the Epstein plane rides with the Prince, the ex-prez and scores of underage prostitutes.

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As new information shows that Senator Menendez had former Senate Majority leader Harry Reid with him when he met with Kathleen Sibelius of HHS-when the NJ Democrat Senator was looking for favorable treatment for his large donor and fellow 'vacationer' in the Dominican Republic.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... ng_in_g.html#incart_river

You remember, the guy who had all the Medicare/Medicaid billing issues-and whose private plane rides Menendez didn't repay until years late when caught.


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More so with the current US DOJ AG... I think the arrogance of power a and longevity in office make all politicians ethical challenged... I am a firm believer with term limits.

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well, payback is a b_tch. and justice has always been selective so menendez should learn a lesson...and while they're at it, maybe try to get rid of cory booker....

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I disagree with Schumer's politics, but I've never seen a hint that he's corrupt on any level.

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