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The Blue Moon Mexican restaurant on Montgomery Ave. near the corner of Warren St., which recently closed down is now being replaced by... (drumroll) an extension of Liberty Prime, which appears to be a catering hall/ space for special occasions.

I give this guy credit. This place (both the steakhouse and the bar next door) appears to be absolutely dead-empty every time I walk by it, yet he must be doing some business since it appears that he's actually expanding the place. Best of luck to them.

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From June 20, 2013 Planning Board minutes of final approval. Maybe Jeff Wenger at Planning can provide access to artist's rendering of building.

13. Case: P13-040 Preliminary and Final Major Site Plan with deviation
Applicant: Jersey Avenue MM, LLC
Attorney: Charles Harrington
Review Planner: Jeff Wenger
Address: 532 - 536 Jersey Ave & 168-172 Columbus Drive
Block: 12704 Lot: 20, 21, 28, 29
Zone: Newark Avenue Downtown Redevelopment Plan
Description: New 7 story, 76-unit residential building with ground floor retail.
Deviation: Front yard setback.
Decision: Approved.

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I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but I notice they are digging up the ground between the Hamilton Park Montessori school and the building on the other side. I hope they are just building a play ground for the school instead of another apartment complex. Anyone know?


Apt complex "Hamilton Square South"

http://silvermanbuilding.com/next-up/

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I still have not found a rendering of this Jersey Ave development - anybody have a link to one?


http://www.urbansquareproperties.com/#!get_involved/c8k2

Hopefully that link will work. In any case, I find the rendering on the developers site quite humorous since it just hides their new construction behind the already existing, century-old buildings in front of it, and doesn't actually show what their own facade will look like.


That rendering is incredibly confusing - where is the development? Is it the taller rowhouse-looking buildings?

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I apologize if this has already been mentioned, but I notice they are digging up the ground between the Hamilton Park Montessori school and the building on the other side. I hope they are just building a play ground for the school instead of another apartment complex. Anyone know?

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I still have not found a rendering of this Jersey Ave development - anybody have a link to one?


http://www.urbansquareproperties.com/#!get_involved/c8k2

Hopefully that link will work. In any case, I find the rendering on the developers site quite humorous since it just hides their new construction behind the already existing, century-old buildings in front of it, and doesn't actually show what their own facade will look like.

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I still have not found a rendering of this Jersey Ave development - anybody have a link to one?

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Seven stories -- apartments above, parking below street level and retail at street level.

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by the way - what's being built next to choc-o-pain on jersey between columbus and newark?

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it's really too bad about this place. the space itself is solid, but i've felt that they've always had an identity crisis, and never knew what they wanted to be. whether it was powerhouse lounge, 6th borough, or ... powerhouse again.

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I went to Powerhouse once on a Saturday night and it was the strangest crowd.

It felt like the leftovers who didn't have a bar they felt comfortable in so they all ended up there. Also, it definitely had a vibe of "I got a hotel in town and asked the front desk where a good bar was, then I ended up here."
Very, very strange crowd, $6 Yuengling, and the most comically slanted pool table I've ever played.

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The coffeeshop isn't my scene, but it does fill a niche and is always packed on the weekends. The other two places indeed suck, powerhouse must be hemorrhaging money. Other than the occasional private party and NFL Sundays there is never more than a handful of people there.

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Also, how long until Powerhouse/6th Borough shutters? I have never seen more than 10 people in there at the same time. Usually, it's less than 5.


I drove by it around 1am a few Saturdays ago (Sunday morning I guess) and the place was packed. It looked like a club scene - loud music, dancing, go go dancers on raised platforms. I almost didn't believe my eyes.

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bodhipooh, I'm referring to the the one ON Marin (on the east side of Marin) across the street from that lone-standing Smoke/Convenience Store.


That's the one I am talking about... It is the first of three towers that collectively will make up the Provost Square development. In total, I believe it will bring 46,000 sf of retail space. For now, the first tower is slated to be finished this year.

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That Bistro guy should be banned by Fulop to open up any more businesses in JC. The two that he owns (Bistro/Coffee Shop/Pizza/Wine Bar ... and then Powerhouse/6th Borough lounge) are really, really embarrassing to an otherwise awesome neighborhood. I don't think there are any other restaurants or bars in Downtown JC that have less than 3 stars on Yelp (both Bistro and Powerhouse have 2.5).

It's really, really hard to get less than 3 stars on Yelp.

The Bistro part of the "megaplex" actually has decent decor and it's a good space. But it's executed terribly, along with flashing neon signs (!) and goofy Top 40 music. Poorly, poorly done.

The "Coffee Shop" portion is very bizarre. I did not have high hopes when it was under construction, but I think it's shamefulness has exceeded my expectations.

Has anybody been to the "Wine Bar" portion? Also wasn't there some sort of "Speakeasy" opening up in this goofy megaplex?

Also, how long until Powerhouse/6th Borough shutters? I have never seen more than 10 people in there at the same time. Usually, it's less than 5.

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God, let it be so.

Bistro is such a waste of the best location. I hate that it's there because I imagine New Yorkers coming in to check out what's supposed to be the cool new spot, then as soon as they get off the PATH they see McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, Subway, a fucking FroYo place, and Bistro.

"We've made a terrible mistake. Abort mission."


Somehow I'm not as fussed by what that subset of NYC-ers think anymore. If they can't be more curious than as described above, then best we don't have them here. If we want elbow-distance status snark, we'll hop on a subway to Bk.

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good point. i'd love a diner in that area. i can't stand going to brownstone, it's wayy too busy all the time.


if that Bistro monstrosity at the Grove PATH were instead an all-night diner, it would be my second home.


God, let it be so.

Bistro is such a waste of the best location. I hate that it's there because I imagine New Yorkers coming in to check out what's supposed to be the cool new spot, then as soon as they get off the PATH they see McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, Subway, a fucking FroYo place, and Bistro.

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good point. i'd love a diner in that area. i can't stand going to brownstone, it's wayy too busy all the time.


if that Bistro monstrosity at the Grove PATH were instead an all-night diner, it would be my second home.

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bodhipooh, I'm referring to the the one ON Marin (on the east side of Marin) across the street from that lone-standing Smoke/Convenience Store.


You're both referring to the same space.

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bodhipooh, I'm referring to the the one ON Marin (on the east side of Marin) across the street from that lone-standing Smoke/Convenience Store.

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Has anybody heard anything about what the retail would be at the base of the new midrise development on Jersey Ave between Columbus and Newark? It is probably going to be a large space.

Also, does anybody know if the new development on Marin Blvd around Bay Street will include retail on the ground floor? It looks like it's built for it, but hard to tell.


The new development just east of LMM Blvd, between Bay and Morgan, is the first tower of Provost Square. That first tower will include 16,000 sf of ground floor retail space.

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Has anybody heard anything about what the retail would be at the base of the new midrise development on Jersey Ave between Columbus and Newark? It is probably going to be a large space.

Also, does anybody know if the new development on Marin Blvd around Bay Street will include retail on the ground floor? It looks like it's built for it, but hard to tell.


I recall Planet Fitness being discussed for the Jersey Avenue space, but that was a while ago. A gym next to Choc-o-Pain and across from a pasta place seems fitting.


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Has anybody heard anything about what the retail would be at the base of the new midrise development on Jersey Ave between Columbus and Newark? It is probably going to be a large space.

Also, does anybody know if the new development on Marin Blvd around Bay Street will include retail on the ground floor? It looks like it's built for it, but hard to tell.

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Another diner would be great. 24 Hours please.

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In all honesty, there are now a LOT of places to grab a great burger. Like, a ton (Dullboy included, by the way - their double-patty is OUTSTANDING).


You do realize the the "Dullboy burger" is just a Park & Sixth burger under a new name, right? Brian from P&S created the Dullboy menu.


Yes, I do realize that. But the burger I had at Dullboy was very different than the burger at Park & Sixth. First of all it was a thin double patty as opposed to a thick single patty. Second of all it had spinach, shallots, fontina cheese and was on a different roll. Either way, what's your point?

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In all honesty, there are now a LOT of places to grab a great burger. Like, a ton (Dullboy included, by the way - their double-patty is OUTSTANDING).


You do realize the the "Dullboy burger" is just a Park & Sixth burger under a new name, right? Brian from P&S created the Dullboy menu.

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Agreed! If someone could turn the defunct Michael's Pizza on 4th and Erie into a halfway decent bagel or donut shop they'd likely do very well. If I had the cash I'd have a donut shop a la Dough or Donut Plant in there yesterday.

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good point. i'd love a diner in that area. i can't stand going to brownstone, it's wayy too busy all the time.

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It's almost humorous how many "cafes" and "burger places" and "pizza places" have opened up, but still only one packed-to-the-gills bagel place in all of downtown, and only one diner which has an hour-long wait on weekends. It's totally crazy.

It's like somebody got the memo, about 2-3 years too late, that burger bars were a trendy thing, and so we get bombarded with them.

In all honesty, there are now a LOT of places to grab a great burger. Like, a ton (Dullboy included, by the way - their double-patty is OUTSTANDING).

I just wish we had more original things opening up. Things that fill needs. First world problems, I know.

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Hmm hopefully it is a nice small bar, instead of what others have said it's slated to be (another burger joint).


First and Erie is gonna be…..another burger joint.

I hope they call it Erie Burger, at least.

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