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Oculus is still leaking despite Port Authority saying it isn’t

By Danielle Furfaro and Stephanie Pagones
May 29, 2017 | 4:43pm

The Oculus is still leaking.

The rain this past week caused puddles and slick floors near the balconies and elevators on both sides of Ground Zero’s $4 billion transit hub, and, at this point, the problem is considered chronic.

“There are leaks on this side and that side, those two balconies, by the elevators, and then the back also. It’s a mess,” said one maintenance worker. “We soak it up and drain it. It’s a lot of work. It’s nonstop.”

Earlier this month, Port Authority officials put the blame for the leak on a nearby construction project and promised to fix it. On Friday, the agency issued an astonishing statement denying that the Oculus is still leaking.

“There were no leaks in the Oculus this week,” spokesman Steve Coleman said, even though a Post reporter saw the leaks firsthand. The water often leaves the marble floor feeling more like an impromptu ice skating rink, making it dangerous for visitors.

“People do have accidents. Like the last rainy day, somebody almost broke their neck here on the marble,” said the maintenance worker. The woman was walking down the stairs when she slid on a puddle, he said. “They slipped and they really hurt themselves because, you know, these are marble floors.”

Workers at the site say the construction of the ambitious building was a rush job that left many loose ends. Even thought the Oculus opened in August, construction workers are still putting the finishing touches on it because there was so much left undone, they said.

“Everything is not done so you’ve have to come back and do it,” said construction worker Shawn Cumberbatch, 41, who was caulking a seam in the main room that had been left unsealed for months. “They just wasted a lot of cash over here. This should have been done. If they just took their time and got it right the first time, we wouldn’t have this problem.”

The Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH terminal, which also houses several luxury retailers, opened in March 2016 — seven years behind schedule and $2 billion over budget. The mall portion of the building opened in August.

Not only is the building still suffering from leaks and holes, but the design of the building makes the interior weather very uncomfortable, say retail workers who have to spend all day on the floor.

“They didn’t put much thought into the construction itself. It’s half-assed,” said Stephany Rivera, 23, an assistant manager at children’s clothing and toy store Kingkow. “It’s frustrating. It’s heat. You feel heat in here, you feel nothing out there. You expected this place to be cool with so many vents like that, but nothing. There’s just no wind. You just feet hot.”

Even the new escalators are also already perpetually breaking, say workers.

“The escalators constantly mess up,” said the maintenance man. “Sometimes they just get stuck.”

http://nypost.com/2017/05/29/oculus-i ... authority-saying-it-isnt/

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the ongoing maintenance of some of his projects have surpassed all expectations, ensuring headaches and unbudgeted expenses for years or generations to come.


No problem at all for the PA, they'll just raise the PATH and tolls like they always do. They're impervious to the public.


You are, of course, correct. It is hard to imagine or fathom a more "undemocratic" institution: they can (essentially) levy a tax on a large population of citizens without having to answer for their actions or decisions. I'm actually more than a little surprised that the PA has gotten this far in its current form.

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the ongoing maintenance of some of his projects have surpassed all expectations, ensuring headaches and unbudgeted expenses for years or generations to come.


No problem at all for the PA, they'll just raise the PATH and tolls like they always do. They're impervious to the public.

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World Trade Center’s $4 billion Oculus springs leak as water drips on commuters' heads



So when I head into the office on Monday, maybe I will see the Oculus draped with a giant blue tarp...


The PA will soon learn why Calatrava is being sued by so many entities that have implemented his designs.


If the PA had even minimum competence, they never would have hired him to begin with.


Agreed! But, sadly, that ship has sailed. There was some serious failure at due diligence in hiring him. By the time he was hired for this project, a lot of noise was already being generated by those stuck dealing with the shortcomings of his designs. Even in his native Spain, there are a bunch of really upset entities going to court to sue over projects that failed to meet deadlines and budgets because of unnecessary complexities in his designs, and the ongoing maintenance of some of his projects have surpassed all expectations, ensuring headaches and unbudgeted expenses for years or generations to come.

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The PA will soon learn why Calatrava is being sued by so many entities that have implemented his designs.


If the PA had even minimum competence, they never would have hired him to begin with.

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So when I head into the office on Monday, maybe I will see the Oculus draped with a giant blue tarp...


The PA will soon learn why Calatrava is being sued by so many entities that have implemented his designs.

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What a clusterfuck.

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So when I head into the office on Monday, maybe I will see the Oculus draped with a giant blue tarp...


White marble is going to be very slippery when wet too..

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PATH to 33rd still shutdown. My wife is trying to find another way home via by bus or van. NJ Transit is cross honoring.. but I suspect the buses will be mobbed..



Should probably hang out in a bar or something, otherwise take an uber.


She's Ubering it.. the line looks like something out of a refugee queue of people escaping the zombie apocalypse.

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Should probably hang out in a bar or something, otherwise take an uber.

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PATH to 33rd still shutdown. My wife is trying to find another way home via by bus or van. NJ Transit is cross honoring.. but I suspect the buses will be mobbed..


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World Trade Center’s $4 billion Oculus springs leak as water drips on commuters' heads

Friday, May 5, 2017, 3:19 PM

It seems $4 billion isn’t enough for a good roof.

The World Trade Center’s Oculus transit hub sprung a leak during Friday’s drenching rain storm.

Photos posted on social media show pools of water on the white marble floor of the $4 billion transportation center and shopping mall.

The leak sent streams of commuters rushing toward the exits.

The Port Authority, which controls the transit hub, did not immediately return a request for comment.

The bird-like structure, designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava, opened in March 2016 after years of delays and cost overruns.

The transportation hub was initially slated to cost $2 billion.


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/w ... mmuters-article-1.3140183

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With all the growth in this area, I am really not sure why they are not building more infrastructure to support it. I wish the city would think ahead and use budget wisely! Public transportation is crucial for all of us, especially as JC continues to grow.


The people who sign off on new developments (JC) are entirely different from the people in charge of public transport infrastructure (Port Authority and New Jersey Transit).

Both groups only seem concerned with the short term, and don't appear to care about the other. The Path will probably be nightmarishly overcrowded once all the JSQ developments are completed. Though, in fairness, NYC appears to be run in a similar way.

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Expense: rail alone costs $billions. Look at the estimated cost just to extend the PATH to EWR over an existing right of way. Then the system has to be subsidized since fares won't cover the operation expenses.


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With all the growth in this area, I am really not sure why they are not building more infrastructure to support it. I wish the city would think ahead and use budget wisely! Public transportation is crucial for all of us, especially as JC continues to grow.

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Lengthening station platforms is great,
How about safety measures to prevent train derailment?

That's the main thing on mind, with nj transit and Amtrak , only a matter of time before it happens to path trains too


Meh, I don't care - statistically, the trains are much safer than driving.

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Lengthening station platforms is great,
How about safety measures to prevent train derailment?

That's the main thing on mind, with nj transit and Amtrak , only a matter of time before it happens to path trains too

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


I don’t mind standing, but unlike the laborers and service workers I ride with, I sit on my cracker-butt most of the day and get paid more for it.

So you get paid more huh. Do you normally reveal your salary to strangers on the train ? And what makes you think they make less than you ? You'd be surprised at what people make based on their looks.


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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


I don’t mind standing, but unlike the laborers and service workers I ride with, I sit on my cracker-butt most of the day and get paid more for it.

So you get paid more huh. Do you normally reveal your salary to strangers on the train ? And what makes you think they make less than you ? You'd be surprised at what people make based on their looks.

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Open gangway cars can increase capacity by 10% and then, with said open gangway cars, you can probably add an extra train car, maybe even two. If you can just walk into the next car, trains can be longer than the stations.


Agree with the first half, though I'm not sure open gangway would survive the S curve heading into Christopher from Newport.

On the second half, people are way too stupid to be able to handle moving from one car to another to exit.


That's the point of open gangway cars. Its basically just one giant car. They can be enginnered to handle any curve the current trains handle.

Look at this video from Toronto:

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Agree with the first half, though I'm not sure open gangway would survive the S curve heading into Christopher from Newport.

On the second half, people are way too stupid to be able to handle moving from one car to another to exit.

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Open gangway cars can increase capacity by 10% and then, with said open gangway cars, you can probably add an extra train car, maybe even two. If you can just walk into the next car, trains can be longer than the stations.

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


I don’t mind standing, but unlike the laborers and service workers I ride with, I sit on my cracker-butt most of the day and get paid more for it.

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


PATH should look at this, but be careful what you wish for... increasing the number of people in a car can have the opposite to intended effect. With more passengers “loading and dwell” times increase, causing trains to stop longer at stations. This can ripple through the entire system limiting overall train movement, resulting in a net decrease in passenger capacity.

It would be reassuring to know that PATH officials have already carefully considered all this. I don't any see any harm from making such information available if they have. One downside might be developers can't push the canard that JC will remain easily “accessible” to NYC during rush hour. But since money talks, I'm not expecting we will learn anything from the PA about this any time soon.

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I agree with both ideas - eliminating seats in at least some cars, and more grab bars throughout the car. I dread being that guy standing in the middle with nothing to hold onto, swaying like a drunken sailor.

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


This is an idea that I think is worthy of consideration. But, not sure why you present it as a binary choice. The PATH could set up trains that incorporate cars of different types. SRO cars could be identified by painting them with a different external color, or by some sort of special decal on the window. One or two such cars could help alleviate overcrowding. Instead of straps hanging from the roof, they could outfit the cars with horizontal bars placed in the middle of the car, making it easier for the vertically challenged to be able to ride safely.


Makes sense to me. And I never understood why the horizontal bars did not extend across the entire car. I always stay in the middle of the car just to make sure I am near them.

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


This is an idea that I think is worthy of consideration. But, not sure why you present it as a binary choice. The PATH could set up trains that incorporate cars of different types. SRO cars could be identified by painting them with a different external color, or by some sort of special decal on the window. One or two such cars could help alleviate overcrowding. Instead of straps hanging from the roof, they could outfit the cars with horizontal bars placed in the middle of the car, making it easier for the vertically challenged to be able to ride safely.

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.

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