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If 'whole foods' does decide to set-up business here, it would be nice if they were located a short walk from the light rail, so everyone could access them.

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I requested on the Whole Foods site last year that they open a location here... since everyone on this list is at least interested in the idea I suggest you do the same!

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Went to the A&P yesterday for the first time since the renos. Yes, the produce is still overpriced (I'm a fan of Lee's on Grove myself), but there are a few noteworthy additions: the salad bar, the cheap takeout pizza, and the Ace Bakery breads (a welcome sight for this Canadian expat).

Still, I wish we'd get a Trader Joe's. I know it's not far to Union Square, but it's a pain lugging groceries on the PATH.

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I went to world fruit farm today (cause of your suggestions) and it seemed clean-ish not corporate super market style but not nasty bodega either

they had a good selection of fruits and veggies.....most of them much cheaper than I would get at A& P too

the zucchini for $0.79/# vs 1.99 and cucumbers 2/$1 vs 3/$2 (or sometimes $0.99 each) was nice since I go through a few of those a week - also ripe mangos for $0.50 each.....I just made some mango salsa and guacamole....yum!

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I think the fruit market next to the Synergy Gym on Newark is the freshest of them all, but the one on grove next to the arab newspaper store is pretty decent too. The best part of the World Fruit Farm though is all the Kinder Chocolate.

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http://www.newyorkssixth.com/director ... /01/world-fruit-farm.html

Continental Fruit:
http://www.newyorkssixth.com/director ... 01/continental-fruit.html

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P & K Food Market
170 Newark Ave

World Fruit Farm
138 Newark Ave

Lee's Fruit & Vegetables
309 Grove St

I like the classical music that they play at Lee's.

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Too bad the Edgewater Whole Foods is so far away. Can't really shop there in the summer because anything frozen is melted or dairy is soured by the time one gets back to JC.

Also, as to Grove Pointe's retail, Duane Reade and Starbuckies are possibilities that have been floated around on certain other boards frequented by real estate agents looking to sell units. That being said, I think Grove Pointe probably is a likely starbucks location, but nothing official yet.

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I used to shop at Whole Foods in Edgewater, but I now shop at Garden of Eden, which is cheaper, and has a french creamy blue cheese that is the best in the world - The two of us go through a pound a week! They also have prepared foods that keep better than Whole Foods prepared does. If you go before 11:30 on Saturday or Sunday it is even possible to get parking right outside the store. Unfortunately its a small store so they don't have everything I need. I still go to Pathmart or ShopRite for dog food, cleaning supplies, seltzer, and paper products.
When I saw that a Trader Joes was coming to Edgewater I went to the one off of route 17 in Paramus to check it out. I wasn't impressed overall. True they are cheaper than Whole Foods and Garden of Edan, but everything is packaged. There is no butcher dept or fresh sea food dept. The cheeses were nicely displayed, but like the rest of the store it is self serve. There is no one to serve you anything or answer questions, or make suggestions. Still, the store was well laid out, the staff was friendly, and the place was packed.

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I think its only a matter of time before both trader joes and Whole foods show up in Jersey City or in Hoboken. between hoboken and the 07302 and 07310, there are 75,000 people. Hoboken and Newport are 75k and 85k median income, respectively, and 07302 55k. The national average is 44k;

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Even better would be a Fairway which has a fresher selection and lower prices than Whole Foods.
Let's be realistic: Whole Foods rarely locates in "low income districts" such as Our Fair City.
Fairway, on the other hand, makes a specialty of it (Harlem, Red Hook, etc.)
And you just can't beat their rich, ripe cheese counter...

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I've been working in hoboken lately so i have been going to a place called Garden of Eden.It is one of the nicest food stores i have ever been in.Anyone else been here?

This is the kind of store we need on Newark......

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For people looking for fresh vegetables, there's a very good vegetable market on Route 440. It takes maybe 10-15 minutes to drive there.

I wouldn't mind a Whole Foods, or just a few stores where I can get fresh vegetables and good quality meat, poultry and fish within walking distance of Historic Downtown.

But it's not like downtown is barren. You can go to various shops and find great variety of foods. Some gourmet, some ethnic specialty. There's the Polish market Europa on Jersey avenue, as well as Subias. Along Newark there are some asian groceries with specialty foods. There's Pecoraro's bakery for great freshly baked bread. Further north you have GO which has a good variety of specialty foods (even if, as some critics have contended, it is somewhat inconsistent). And for basic groceries, I have no problem with going to the Pathmark at Old Colony. And people closer to C-Town or Shoprite have the same options.

A store like Whole Foods would be nice, although a bit expensive. But if you just walk around a little bit, and are willing to take the occasional car trip, you can find a lot of great stores and eat pretty well. Plenty of people around here have figured out a way to survive.

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Whole Foods, Wegman's, Fairway, even Trader Joes, I'll take any one of them.

And, btw, regarding whole paycheck, the Shop Rite is not particularly cheap. Even the Pathmark is more expensive than the fancy versions of the same chain stores in the suburbs . . .

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I enjoy the prepared meals at WF, but IMHO Wegman's has a better variety for those of us who like to eat good food that is not necesarily organic or free of any preservatives.
I cast my vote for Wegman's

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If everyone types in their zip code at the trader joes and wholefoods website that might spark their intrest. It worked with freshdirect.

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I don't see anything wrong with Ethan Crane criticizing Newport's design and layout (or lack thereof). It's his opinion and mine too, and I'm sure plenty of others. Should we just be thankful that the developer gods blessed us with those buildings? Just because it's no longer rats and filth doesn't mean it's great. It's okay to criticize and express our opinion on it. I wonder why people get so offended by that here.

And isn't Newport filled with "renter losers"?

I remember a thread here a while back titled "God Bless the Lefraks." Pathetic.


Thanks for the support, Rory. The real point of my post, though, was to point out that icricket is likely a shill for the LeFraks and related developers, and that icricket's posts should be held suspect. It just bothers me to see developers using such weasel tactics to influence opinion.

icricket's response has been to call me paranoid. I'm not going to beat this to death, but it's hardly paranoid to think developers would do a thing like that, and icricket has been cheerleading on this board for a long time. icricket's suggestion that s/he is too multicultural for me is almost as bizarre as her/his suggestion that the LeFraks single-handedly started the revitalization of Jersey City. Anyone who was around back then, and I was, could see that a waterfront building boom was inevitable. It would have happened even without Schundler wrapping the area up in tax abatements and giving it to the LeFraks. And we'd all be better off without those ugly green and white skyscrapers.

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I have to 2nd 4Baileys comment on Wine Library. If you ever find yourself out that way, it is well worth your time to stop in. They are very friendly, helpful, have a huge selection and some very good prices. Prices in their gourmet cheese section are not bad either. I stop by there whenever I am in the neighborhood.

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I don't think the A+P is closed. I was there a week and a half ago. However they ARE remodelling while the store is open which is a pain in the butt. The store is half stocked and you get weird new aisle combinations like the bread and laundry detergent aisle.

Hopefully it will be finished soon.

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I do miss the A&P; didn’t know they were renovating


Is A&P closed for renovation??? It has only been a few weeks since I was there.

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Along with the thread drift to wine stores…

Again, if you have a car and don’t mind a short ride, Wine Library (www.winelibrary.com) in Springfield, not far from the Short Hills mall, generally has an excellent selection and some of the best prices in the area. The owner is very ambitious about taking on Zachy’s for depth, but is looking to keep prices low to turn around inventory quick. They’ve recently expanded the store and added a gourmet section (D’Artagnan stuff, cheese, etc.). Well worth the car ride.

BTW – I’m not affiliated with them or ITB –just a customer since ’95.

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I may be a penniless renter loser, but I know that you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot with this "any development is good development" mindset. So does anyone else who has any kind of clue about what makes cities work.

Minnie - You know I like you, but I can't believe you just described Newport as "elegant."

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It's okay to criticize and express our opinion on it. I wonder why people get so offended by that here.

And isn't Newport filled with "renter losers"?

I remember a thread here a while back titled "God Bless the Lefraks." Pathetic.

and you're in a comfortable majority here - nice a capella. may be that's why i enjoy being a contrarian.
i certainly do not object to diff. opinions. so long as it is done in a civil dialogue . i can express myself much more candidly - and that is my tendency;), but i do try to check it.
in my personal opinion lefrak single handedly started the revitalization of jc - to deny that is kinda short-sighted.
yes, it could've been done better ,etc. but it is what it is and it's getting better with each new building. most of manhattan is quite ugly, but people live there not for beauty ... and now, that development of waterfront really took off - it's so-o much prettier. seems like they're at least making an effort. i was stunned by goldman getting koolhaas! that's like a cherry on a cake;). but plenty of people hate him too...
so 'the low-risers' will get their gull's cove and liberty north and 'the hi-risers' get the close waterfront. i am willing to visit the whole foods whereever it is ;).

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I bet a Trader Joes would do just as well....


Last week on my way to the Whole Foods in Edgewater, I noticed there was a "Trader Joe's coming soon" sign on the old Showboat movie theatre. I checked their website and it is still not posted there, so it may be a while...

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I don't see anything wrong with Ethan Crane criticizing Newport's design and layout (or lack thereof). It's his opinion and mine too, and I'm sure plenty of others. Should we just be thankful that the developer gods blessed us with those buildings? Just because it's no longer rats and filth doesn't mean it's great. It's okay to criticize and express our opinion on it. I wonder why people get so offended by that here.

And isn't Newport filled with "renter losers"?

I remember a thread here a while back titled "God Bless the Lefraks." Pathetic.

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The Wine Warehouse in Millburn is fantastic, very reasonable prices and helpful staff. I think their web address is winewarehouse.com.

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...plenty of nasty posters here all the time...


Oh yeah - icricket, you are forgetting that most of the nasties on this board are anti-real estate development penniless loser renters who are worried that they will be priced out of DT and will have to move to Greenville or Newark.

That's the ONLY motivation for their negative posts.

Perhaps if they spent less time at jclist and more time figuring out how to make money they would be happier.

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Seems I missed the comments about liquor stores and wine stores before this thread took a turn onto a tangent, but for those that are interested, and have a car, I have two recommendations:
Riverside Wine Merchants (West NY or Edgewater?) has a good selection of mid-range wines, and monthly wine tastings. They also have presale (read-heavy discounts) opportunities throughout the year. I've never bought a bad presale wine from them. Super nice too.
About 10 minutes south of Newark Airport on the 1&9 is a liquor store. I forget the name, but it is on the northbound side of the road with a big sign that says "WINE". 20% mixed case discounts and a great selection of new world wines.

enjoy

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I admit it, I slammed Pavonia-Newport partly because I knew I'd get a quick response from icricket. Remember, icricket is absolutely not tied to the Pavonia-Newport developers. icricket, could you tell us again how beautiful that curved skyscraper that's replacing Pep Boys is going to be?

and you're so-o paranoid - feels almost like nwa board...(giggles).
why do some people get so bend out of shape, when i say, i prefer newport to ph? that i LIKE living in hi-rises (with great view of downtown and the bay)? oh, boy - i can't resist answering, i admit. you need to raise cricket - say newport is sterile - he'll be right up ....
yah-yah! i LOVE ellipse and metropolitan, but i love miami brikell even better! any suggestions, where i should scram next? need i be guessing? miami, of course...
it's undeniable that jc waterfront is getting dominated by hi-rises. some of you hate it, i happen to like it. 10 hi-rises = 10K people coming next - in addition to 20K already living in hi-rises and loving it....what next, you'll be hating and trying to shut up all of them? or you hope, they'll never dare to speak up or show up here?
plenty of nasty posters here all the time, what , i'm too much compared to that? to-o corporate clean for your downtown buds? to-o multicultural?

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"Beautiful Hudson River side property"

I guess you didn't live in dirty Jersey City in the 80s to see what that property looked like before the Newport area was developed. Beautiful? A more appropriate collection of adjectives:

Oil filled
Smelly
Dangerous
Junkyard
Toxic
Barren
Rotten
Dump
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"CAUTION - DO NOT ENTER"

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I’ve never been to Whole Foods but if it comes way downtown, I’ll give it a try. I do miss the A&P; didn’t know they were renovating, but it was a civilized shopping experience in comparison to ShopRite.

JC List is a message board, but friendly? I can hardly say it is. I suppose the spicy threads make it more interesting but what’s the sense in bashing the more positive attitude posters we have, like icricket, caitlinella, and others, just because they’re pro-development. I moved from the elegant Newport to run down Ham Park pre-Shore Club days in search of a little condo and went through heavy-duty withdrawal symptoms. I wish somebody had warned me and I may never get over it. Luckily new development projects are headed this way….and Hamilton Park will be run down no more. Look out Paulus Hook… you’ll soon have some competition!

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