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Re: New York magazine article on downtown Jersey City
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Hey:

Thanks for the comments so far (even the one about the New Yorker).

In talking to people in JC about JC, two concerns keep coming up: a) rapid, unchecked development and b) crime. But these are paradoxical, no? I.e., if the crime is really that bad, it should keep the development (and influx) in check; or the influx will curb the crime (neighborhoods get nicer, etc.).

Or maybe I just haven't been talking to the right people....

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And some of us are a bit snob - ugh, New York - come back when you work for something worth reading like The New Yorker.


New York hired Adam Moss away from the New York Times Magazine, so now the Times magazine has some bad issues, but New York is good again.

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And some of us are a bit snob - ugh, New York - come back when you work for something worth reading like The New Yorker.

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Fer Chrissakes, quit foolin around. There's an important magazine writer from New York here readin this stuff. Show a little class will ya? Do you wanna get called a hairy backed schmuck again?

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With, -ahem- a six-figure initiation fee.

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New York magazine article on downtown Jersey City (the short version):

Jersey City?home of the Statue of Liberty?immigrant past?corruption/Frank Hague?seedy/crime-ridden?revitalization?Newport/Lefrak?gays/artists?downtown gentrification?luxury condos?discovery by hipsters?Uncle Joe?s/111 First?more luxury condos?world-class golf course?Trump!...Koolhaas! (before NY, even)...Move to Jersey?...What are you, nuts?!

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Did Australian leave a forwarding number?


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do stockbrokers boogie?


i hope not.

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please don't write this article.

all the displaced midwesteners living in brooklyn will try to take our reasonable rent away :(


no they won't. they all have trust funds and they didn't come all the way from bumblefcuk, new mexico to tell all of their old friends that they now live in jersey city.

nah, it's the stockbrokers that we have to worry about.


i dunno...

the guy from interpol said he is moving here...

do stockbrokers boogie?

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please don't write this article.

all the displaced midwesteners living in brooklyn will try to take our reasonable rent away :(


no they won't. they all have trust funds and they didn't come all the way from bumblefcuk, new mexico to tell all of their old friends that they now live in jersey city.

nah, it's the stockbrokers that we have to worry about.

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As fasteddie pointed out, you will get many wiseass replies to your missive, in my opinion mostly because for lots of JC folk, we are wary of the press since it seems like "out of town" media likes to bash us.

Oh, you should also run a search for "white people giving out directions", that is one of the nice perks of living here.

As for me, I moved to JC in March, from Lyndhurst, and couldn't be happier- great commute and I live in a safe, quiet (for now) neighborhood, with a reasonable rent. I won't say what neighborhood I live in because, as jenny stated, I don't want 12,000 Billyburg bohemian trustafarian "artists" moving in next door and driving up my rent.

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jenny- not sure where your "rising crime" theory is coming from- the stats this year say that everything (other than rape) is down compared to the same 9 month period last year.


Fair enough. I should have said "recent spate of" crime. Or "crime that I care about because I am selfish and it is suddenly happening in my neighborhood." Or "sh*t that scares me."

My point with alerting the press was that at the time (a couple months ago), there seemed to be a burst in random crimes in the downtown area, some minor (bike stealing by freaky junkies on Wayne) and some far worse.

Whether that is up or down from the previous year was irrelevant to me at the time and is kind of irrelevant to me now. It's happening and it's crappy, no matter what the stats say.

But yes, overall it's down (except rape), and we should be clear about that. Let's hope for even better numbers next year.

Now I will stop because we have visitors (Mr. NY Mag) and I don't want to look like the loudmouth family member at the Thanksgiving dinner...


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Mr. Sternbergh, as you can see from the few responses so far, Downtown Jersey City is inhabited by a population of exiled smartasses who have all been kicked out of Manhatten, Brooklyn, Hoboken etc. I don't live downtown so I am not one of THEM. Your first mistake was to mention that you are writing an article and especially for a NY publication. You really should have lied and said that you are considering moving here and asking for advice. The regular posters would be climbing over each other to offer sincere and useful information on every facet of everyday life in the area. Happens at least once a week here. Too late now, your cover is blown. You will get nothing but smartass sarcasm now. Best bet is to go back through the forum archives. You will find enough material to write a series of books. Note: pay special attention to threads that discuss "pimp", "Wanda", "boobies", "wheelchair clown". These will be the most informative.

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please don't write this article.

all the displaced midwesteners living in brooklyn will try to take our reasonable rent away :(

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My gripe is that Journal Square is the bastard child of Downtown JC which is the bastard child of Hoboken which is the bastard child of NY.

WE HAVE THE LOEW'S DAMNIT!

Although its funny when people from the South move to podunk Brooklyn and discover JC for the first time.

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Downtown Jersey City is a wonderful place where nothing costs more than 99 cents.

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Eh, what the hell, the sarcastic replies are already piling up anyway...

My biggest gripe is that there's only one place to (legally) buy firearms.

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Cool area but oh that crime rate -- armed robberies, push-ins, and burglaries happen all the time.

We also need some decent places to eat and hear music and some life on Newark Street after dark would be nice.

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I have to rave about the free light rail. It's free, right?

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jenny- not sure where your "rising crime" theory is coming from- the stats this year say that everything (other than rape) is down compared to the same 9 month period last year.

to the writer- i love JC. I now have a 15 minute commute to lower Manahattan, which means a lot to a person who can wind up working some crazy hours.

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Here's the funny thing: for all our griping and b*tching and moaning (and bragging and raving too, of course), who is actually willing to speak on the record??


(silence)


And I'm the one who keeps talking about alerting the local press to the rising crime.


(gulp)


I guess if we have the chance to contribute, we won't be able to complain if we don't like what he writes.

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I here Whole Foods is moving to Jersey City (downtown). I won't disclose the location.

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Hello:

I'm Adam Sternbergh, a writer at New York magazine working on a piece about downtown Jersey City. I'm interested in hearing opinions on the changes going on -- raves, gripes, tips, what have you -- and especially interested in talking to anyone who's moved there (renting or buying) recently (e.g. in the last year) after considering Manhattan, Brooklyn, Hoboken, etc.

You can either respond here or email me directly at adam_sternbergh at newyorkmag dot com.

Thanks for your help, and I'm happy to give more info to anyone who's interested.

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