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Re: Sweeney proposes slapping payroll tax on Jersey City businesses to fund schools
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With the amount of wealth in Jersey City now there should be no way that we aren't funding our own way in such matters. But with a mayor that is so proud whenever Jersey City expands services without having its residents pay for it self funding is very difficult.


Bingo. Absolute bingo.

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With the amount of wealth in Jersey City now there should be no way that we aren't funding our own way in such matters. But with a mayor that is so proud whenever Jersey City expands services without having its residents pay for it self funding is very difficult.

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Bodhi and stateaidguy nailed it, and do so with facts, logic and reason. So far, all of the counter arguments I've seen it are based in emotion and "what about me?" Hyperbole and fear.

I think things are finally moving in the right direction, but still have a long way to go. I agree the the payroll tax is a bad solution (for small businesses) that will continue to spur bad behavior, and is indicative of the city unwilling to face reality. A reality that has a mayor boasting ad nauseum about the rise of JC and successes in JC, but denial that it's on the backs of not only the poorer parts of JC, but the state as a whole.

People around the rest of JC and the state are starting to get a whiff of what's happening, and they strongly dislike the smell.

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Interesting comment within the first article:

"Critics of the current funding system say Jersey City residents can afford to pay more than they do via the tax levy, which will be $124 million for 2018-19 (the district receives a total of $410 million in state aid)."

That's a frightening assumption, but I guess they're looking at all of the real estate millionaires who've been created since the reval.

Hoo HaH!!


But, it's not a frightening assumption, it's the truth! It only seems that way because people in JC have gotten SO USED to someone else footing our bills for so long that now being asked to pony up a relatively small percentage (say, 33% of the total school bill) seems shocking. In the real world, if you wanted to indulge in overspending, you wouldn't be able to pass that on to someone else so easily. Ultimately, it is VERY EASY to be in favor of increased social services programs, and bigger government, when you don't have to pay for them.

Currently, we are paying for ~17% of our school budget. Being asked to should twice that amount (~33%) is most definitely an imposition from a numbers perspective. Of course, that means a doubling of the local school levy, which would translate into a 25% increase of our new tax bills. Of course, people dont want to pay for more, but they dont want to make the tough choices to cut back in other areas. Ultimately, something HAS to give.

Allowing JC to impose a payroll tax is, to me, a terrible idea. It would only embolen the JCBOE to continue their wasteful ways, and who is to say the tax is kept at 1% for now? If things dont improve and streamline, who is to say the city doesnt find it easy and convenient to up that tax to 1.5%? Or, higher even??

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Interesting comment within the first article:

"Critics of the current funding system say Jersey City residents can afford to pay more than they do via the tax levy, which will be $124 million for 2018-19 (the district receives a total of $410 million in state aid)."

That's a frightening assumption, but I guess they're looking at all of the real estate millionaires who've been created since the reval.

Hoo HaH!!

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" Cunningham could not say how much the tax would rake in, but she said it "would be enough to take care of the woes in our school system." " .... and then sum???

Gotta love the benevolent government "We have to pass the bill to see what's in it." management style.

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JCBOE is pushing for a payroll tax? Can we vote these bums out?

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You all have the politics of this wrong.

It isn't Sweeney who is "slapping" a payroll tax onto JC.

The idea for a payroll tax has been supported by the JCBOE. The primary sponsor in the legislator is none other than Sandra Cunningham.

Sweeney wants to eliminate Jersey City's Adjustment Aid, and making up for that revenue loss will require higher local taxes, but Sweeney isn't being unfair to Jersey City, since there are about 200 other districts who are going to lose Adjustment Aid with Jersey City.

I'm sure that Sweeney would rather Jersey City just raise its property tax levy (like every other district). Sweeney is now supporting a payroll tax out of deference to Cunningham.

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And then you can be real cynical... and wonder if Sweeney is sticking it to Fulop to make sure the Jersey City Miracle flounders and kills Fulop's statewide political aspirations.


To be fair, that idea and the idea it's the right thing to do are not mutually exclusive.

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And then you can be real cynical... and wonder if Sweeney is sticking it to Fulop to make sure the Jersey City Miracle flounders and kills Fulop's statewide political aspirations.

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This is similar to what's being done to Amazon in Seattle although for a different reason.
Will Bezos fall for being subjected to this by bringing the Amazon operation to NJ?--I think not.
Plus Murphy is already taxing New Jersey business to grab some of the tax break from Trump's tax policies.
Perfect together ?-- no more in Jersey.

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Wow

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... oser_under_sweeney_s.html

Loss of state aid, but to be replaced by a payroll or city income tax for only jersey city businesses.

This is the worst idea ever.

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