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Re: Vote No for 2 city questions
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Show me the math that it is bogus. I am referring to what is written on the ballot. The ballot says .02 for hundreds for open space. As I explained before, property has ceased being assessed in hundreds for quite a while. But the language is still used, property is assessed in thousands. Probably in 100 years, property will be sold in the millions but government is using the language of hundreds. Bodhipooh, do you have a property bill? Check your bill, it is written in hundreds, just move over the decimal point and you have the exact figure. Multiply that figure, the total amount against your assessment and you have the amount of money you pay in taxes.

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When the county did their open space, it was .001 not the proposed .02 per hundreds, those zeros mean a lot. If you have a property tax bill, look at Municipal tax. It states 3.6640 in hundreds, that is $36.64 in real money multiply by your assessment. It does not include all of the other taxes on your bill.


Are you ready to admit that your earlier claims (about the proposed 2 cents per $100 rate increase) are bogus?

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When the county did their open space, it was .001 not the proposed .02 per hundreds, those zeros mean a lot. If you have a property tax bill, look at Municipal tax. It states 3.6640 in hundreds, that is $36.64 in real money multiply by your assessment. It does not include all of the other taxes on your bill.

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That video is painful to watch.

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How do a condo owner pass along this tax? The math is correct. Twenty cents per thousand is $2,000 more in taxes if the revaluation is $1 million. Take one million and times it by .20, the answer is $2,000. The question is asked in hundreds, but we use thousands since it has been a long time since homes were assessed by hundreds.


You are obviously not very good with math...!

The tax increase for a property worth $1 million would be equal to $200, not $2,000!! You did the first part correctly (2 cents per $100 equals to 20 cents per $1,000) but you totally screwed up the second part. You don't multiply 1 million by .20! Instead, you have to multiply .20 by 1,000 because 1 million equals 1,000 times 1,000.

Of course, you could have saved yourself a lot of drama and head scratching math by simply realizing that 2 cents per $100 is the same as .02% and simply multiply your theoretical properties of 1 and 2 million by that percentage to get the correct results: $200 and $400, respectively.

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Over 2,000 people lose their homes every year on tax liens. If Fulop wanted open space, then he would require open space from developers.


It appears that you do not understand property rights. Per State Law, Jersey City cannot require a developer to give us parks. That's called an "off site improvement" and it is usually illegal.

It IS legal when the developer is "Designated" by the City and there is *some* room for trade-offs. But you know what, when a developer is "Designated" they also qualify for tax abatements.

So what do you want? Privately paid for parks AND tax abatements, or parks funded through everyone's tax dollars? You seem to think you can have your cake and eat it too.

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How do a condo owner pass along this tax? The math is correct. Twenty cents per thousand is $2,000 more in taxes if the revaluation is $1 million. Take one million and times it by .20, the answer is $2,000. The question is asked in hundreds, but we use thousands since it has been a long time since homes were assessed by hundreds.


It's called raising the rent on your tenant the next time their lease comes up for renewal to cover the cost if you so choose, if you own your unit and rent it out. Why is this a difficult concept for you?


If you live in your condo and many do, how do you pass on this increase?

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How do a condo owner pass along this tax? The math is correct. Twenty cents per thousand is $2,000 more in taxes if the revaluation is $1 million. Take one million and times it by .20, the answer is $2,000. The question is asked in hundreds, but we use thousands since it has been a long time since homes were assessed by hundreds.


It's called raising the rent on your tenant the next time their lease comes up for renewal to cover the cost if you so choose, if you own your unit and rent it out. Why is this a difficult concept for you?

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This city can't even fund its own necessary city expenditures right now and it wants to impose a new tax to spend on the luxury of acquiring land unesssarily?? F that.
Just watch who they buy the properties from- developers and people that are cronies to the politicians. No thank you.

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How do a condo owner pass along this tax? The math is correct. Twenty cents per thousand is $2,000 more in taxes if the revaluation is $1 million. Take one million and times it by .20, the answer is $2,000. The question is asked in hundreds, but we use thousands since it has been a long time since homes were assessed by hundreds.

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Both are looking like they'll pass. Deplorable Yvonne's opposition is thankfully a kiss of death for her own cause (I'll vote yes for both). Please tell us who you'll support for next mayor so we can vote opposite and that person can win in a landslide.


I guess you are not a property owner. What we have in JC are those people who live in tax abated homes and are not affected by rising taxes and those who are affected by rising taxes. If you are a person living downtown in a row house, you will be paying $2,000 more in taxes after the reval. I heard some homes sold for more than $2 milion, they will pay $4,000 more in taxes.


Funny how some people are willing to pay a little extra for nice things (parks), huh Yvonne? You should try it some time.


It also proves how out of touch she is with the real economy. Of course if an owner's taxes rise, they'll pass the cost onto their renters if it's large enough. Renters don't get a free ride as she seems to think.

She also seems to have pulled her tax increase numbers out of thin air, which isn't surprising. It figures that a woman who can barely spell or construct a logical thought could also do math.

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Over 2,000 people lose their homes every year on tax liens. If Fulop wanted open space, then he would require open space from developers.

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Both are looking like they'll pass. Deplorable Yvonne's opposition is thankfully a kiss of death for her own cause (I'll vote yes for both). Please tell us who you'll support for next mayor so we can vote opposite and that person can win in a landslide.


I guess you are not a property owner. What we have in JC are those people who live in tax abated homes and are not affected by rising taxes and those who are affected by rising taxes. If you are a person living downtown in a row house, you will be paying $2,000 more in taxes after the reval. I heard some homes sold for more than $2 milion, they will pay $4,000 more in taxes.


Funny how some people are willing to pay a little extra for nice things (parks), huh Yvonne? You should try it some time.

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Both are looking like they'll pass. Deplorable Yvonne's opposition is thankfully a kiss of death for her own cause (I'll vote yes for both). Please tell us who you'll support for next mayor so we can vote opposite and that person can win in a landslide.


I guess you are not a property owner. What we have in JC are those people who live in tax abated homes and are not affected by rising taxes and those who are affected by rising taxes. If you are a person living downtown in a row house, you will be paying $2,000 more in taxes after the reval. I heard some homes sold for more than $2 milion, they will pay $4,000 more in taxes.


I am a property owner and I live in Downtown. I'll gladly pay extra money in taxes just to see your worthless opinions invalidated.

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Both are looking like they'll pass. Deplorable Yvonne's opposition is thankfully a kiss of death for her own cause (I'll vote yes for both). Please tell us who you'll support for next mayor so we can vote opposite and that person can win in a landslide.


I guess you are not a property owner. What we have in JC are those people who live in tax abated homes and are not affected by rising taxes and those who are affected by rising taxes. If you are a person living downtown in a row house, you will be paying $2,000 more in taxes after the reval. I heard some homes sold for more than $2 milion, they will pay $4,000 more in taxes.

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another two YES votes here!

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I will be voting YES for both questions.

Parks fund will come out to about $10/month for me, which I am happy to pay for an improved park fund.

Moving the election is really a no brainer IMO. I cannot think of one true advantage to doing what so few municipalities do and hold our elections in the beginning of the summer.

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Both are looking like they'll pass. Deplorable Yvonne's opposition is thankfully a kiss of death for her own cause (I'll vote yes for both). Please tell us who you'll support for next mayor so we can vote opposite and that person can win in a landslide.

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I'm voting YES on both. I think parks in Jersey City are a good thing. I think moving the election is a good thing.

I also view that you being a bigot and someone that demonstrates exceptionally poor judgement (see historical designation lies) inclines me to vote the complete opposite of whatever agenda you push.

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