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Re: JCPD BLACK & BLUEHe called cops - they beat, cuffed him
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But why do you assume you're right when you're not even close to being an authority on this matter?

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No when I was insulted that is when I defended myself. If I felt I was wrong I would apologize without hesitation.

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Man beaten by cops files complaint

by Michaelangelo Conte
Wednesday September 05, 2007, 11:45 AM


A Jersey City man who was injured by police officers responding to his call for help during a burglary in his Heights residence filed complaints against two officers in court this morning, accusing them of assaulting him, officials said.

Based on the Aug. 20 incident, Mathias Bolton, 34, of Palisade Avenue near Bowers Street, filed complaints against Jersey City police officers Kevin Hill and Victor Vargas, according to court papers.


The complaints allege the officers assaulted Bolton "by punching and kicking" him "about the head and body" and by throwing him down steps.

Bolton said he suffered a black eye, injured foot, and many abrasions on his arms, back and shoulders. He said doctors told him his arm was fractured but he was not in a cast this morning.

"He was assaulted by the police officers and he needs to vindicate his rights," said attorney Raoul Bustillo, who represented Bolton in Jersey City Municipal Court, along with attorney John Burke.

As they left the Summit Avenue court house, Burke said they were on their way to file an internal affairs complaint at police headquarters on Erie Street.

Finally, Bolton's lawyers were granted a postponement until Oct. 5 at 9 a.m. so they can file a request for a change of venue in order to have the case heard outside the jurisdiction where Vargas and Hill work.

The request was granted by Municipal Court Judge Cynthia Jackson.

The officers were not in court this morning.
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Yes but apparently you don't have any sense of decorum. You don't go around insulting people's close friends. When someone does, normally one would apologize and just walk away. There's a right to opinion and then there's discretion about when to voice one's opinion. You seem to lack the latter.

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As I said before it's not a personal attack that is how you are taking it

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I'd like to ask a comment or two myself

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And why do you choose to believe the police when you don't even know their side of the story. I'm saying I know the side of the story of someone I've known since second grade (nearly 30 years), whom I know to be an upstanding citizen, who never touched alcohol or any drug in his life and has no reason to lie.

What do you know about the cops who attacked him? I'm guessing nothing, as you've never spoken to them.

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All I ask for is a comma, a period, and the ocassional carriage return.

Need a beer, I'll be back in 2 and 2.


LMAO

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If by asking a comment I'm getting involved in the fight bring it on Please grow up!

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You can feel free to call me and whoever you choose a liar that is your right and yes I am a loud mouth so you are right on the money with that but with the way you are reacting I'm starting to believe the whole thing is BS just to stir up more problems with the JCPD so I am standing on my soapbox now so you can go to town on me

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All I ask for is a comma, a period, and the ocassional carriage return.

Need a beer, I'll be back in 2 and 2.

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If I really wanted to be part of the JCPD PR Dept I don't that would be a problem as for bashing your friend that is your opinion I asked a question which had a rude response so I then edited my comment And as for the facts you know one side of the story which you choose to believe to be the truth

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and no, they were not contacted by me.

Again with the assumptions. Sheesh!

Look, back off. You do not want to be in this fight, trust me.

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AND, you said you thought what he said was at least half BS, which is an assumption based on NOTHING.

So, essentially you're calling one of my closest friends a liar. I will not stand for that.

You wouldn't like it if i called you and yours a liar, based on nothing other than my only impression this medium affords me: that you're a loudmouth who likes to make assumptions and blame the victim.

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yes, but i am a lot closer to the truth than you are given that i know the person involved and have discussed it at length. You're just making assumptions based on some media reports. You have a right to your opinion, but when you know someone's friend is in the room, are you still going to talk shit about that person knowing full well that that friend will stand at his defense? It's not cool.

And like i said, my opinion is based on more factual information than yours. You seem to just want to be part of the JCPD PR Committee.

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No it's not that they have big ears it's they do their jobs and if you go back and read what I stated I said him or someone that knows him maybe they were contacted by you & then contacted him

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You are making claims that I am attempting to assassinate his character nothing could be further from the truth I don't know him on a personal level to bash him I am stating my opinion which last time I checked I was living in America so I still have that right. And as for your bottom line that the cops acted with inappropriate force on someone who was REPORTING not COMMITING a potential crime I find it hard to believe everything is a cut and dry as you are insisting because there are always three sides to every story yours, mine & the truth. So if you are taken offense to what I'm saying I won't apologize for giving my opinion and I take offense to the fact that you are both jumping to the conclusion that I'm assuming he is 100% wrong maybe I'm just standing up for what I feel is the truth and if you don't like that ohh well to bad Grow up and deal with it or move to another country where I'm not entitiled to voice my opinion

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yes, and these "contacts" know every phone call that comes in to the assignment desk of every TV network.

Those must be some pretty big ears!

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...Mmm...hmm.

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It's the battle of the second and third person sources, with heresay thrown in for good measure!

(Goes and gets the popcorn).

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I know this because I have contacts in the television industry

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sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but it should be based on something more than unsupported conjecture.

And, as a close friend of the injured party, i will not stand for the insults and character assassination. FACT: Jersey Journal Reported the Incident. FACT: Media outlets picked up on the incident from the jersey journal report and contacted him. It is the job of any NJ reporter to follow all NJ newspapers. FACT: TV media reports didn't surface until three days after the event.

And how could you possibly know for a fact that the media contacted him, when I know for a fact---again, a friend of mathias---they contacted him. I even recommended to him when it happened that he should contact the media, but he said he didn't want to go there.

The bottom line is the cops acted with inappropriate force on someone who was REPORTING not COMMITING a potential crime.

So please, I take personal offense to you smearing my friend's name, so please take your screenname and your unfounded theories and go post on CorruptThugCopsRule.com

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I read about this in the paper when it happened. But I'm sorry I'm not as quick to jump to judgement as some other people and maybe the paper contacted him but like I said earlier the news channels were contacted by him who someone who knows him.


And how do you know that if this is just something you read about in the paper?

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No I edited my comments when someone referred to me as officer beatdown #2. I read about this in the paper when it happened. But I'm sorry I'm not as quick to jump to judgement as some other people and maybe the paper contacted him but like I said earlier the news channels were contacted by him who someone who knows him. Do I think he is a bad guy probably not but I don't think everything is as cut & dry as most of you are making it out. So if you are offended I'm sorry but I am entitled to my opinion correct.

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As someone close to this case, let me explain. This has been his scheduled court date since the date of the incident, prior to the media involvment. The media contacted him, he didn't contact the media.

Please stop making any two-bit, armchair judge, shooting-from-the-hip accusations without knowing the facts. It's simply offensive to call his story "BS." And, I saw you post on nj.com about the same thing, so it appears that you only exist to assassinate someone's character.

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Let's get one thing straight here. You are the one who started making accusations not me. I asked a question you were the one who stared off being nasty. I signed up yesterday because I only found out about this site yesterday. I like to see what everyone has to say about everything before I make a judgement. And I know for a fact the television channels were contacted by him or by someone who knows him so please just get off your high horse Thank you!

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How do you know he went to the media? Maybe a reporter showed up at the scene and asked questions.

Anyway, even if he did, so what? And what if he wants to file a lawsuit? I sure as hell would.

Something to hide? I'm a regular poster here. A few people on this board even know me. Who are you and where do you get off?

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No actually my name is Melissa I am not a cop I work for an Insurance Company. I was asking a question You seem to have something to hide I personally think it's funny how everyone even the "victim" in this case goes to the media instead of the courthouse first!

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Can you please tell me why you started a new ID on this board just to post that? Let me take a wild guess that your name is officer beatdown #2.

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Can someone please tell me why he went to the media before the courts. Let me take a wild guess a lawsuit is in the works! I'm putting money on the fact that at least half if not his whole story is BS!

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