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I was in JC for over 25 years, and on this forum on and off for a number of years. People get riled up over things they don't like (especially loud noises, loud bars, Healy, etc. etc.), and are quick to make long-winded threads about it. The fact that Taqueria elicits such strong negative responses from people should serve as a warning flag that hey, maybe there's some truth in what people have to say about this place.
Posted on: 2011/7/18 20:36
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I love the food at Tacqueria and have had nothing but positive experiences there but after the owners comment about class, I'd rather take my low class money somewhere else.
Posted on: 2011/7/18 20:39
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You should learn how to read. I said nothing about your little spawn, only your shit attitude in the shop that has over several years grown steadily worse. Your food is great. I love your flan. But you all act like a holes. I do hope your downtown location closes. I also hope you get fined for selling beer without a license. I think also that anyone who wants really excellent southwestern style food without the obnoxious attitude should check out Festival Mexicano Restaurant at 120 Rivington Street in the Lower East Side. The people there are always very nice and the food is really good. And I think anyone who really needs a taco fix downtown should check out the korean tacos from the Krave Truck. Its not southwestern style, but there isn't any overwhelming superiority complex or attitude from the proprietors. Perhaps the reason people tear into you "quite a bit" is because you are actually the ones who are mean asshole douche bag #OOPS#s. Anyway, I hope you enjoy serving the higher class lower east side drunk twenty-three year olds. Those people have about the right attitude. Don't let PATH door hit you on the way out.
Posted on: 2011/7/18 20:40
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This thread has been a very entertaining read!
I was totally naive to the Taqueria "controversy" when I first ate there. I went to HS in JC back when that space was some shady, foul smelling dive that gave you food poisoning if you came within 20 feet of it. When I saw Taqueria there it took a few walk-bys before I was convinced that it was definitely different ownership and not the suspicious establishment of my teenage years. I went there with my fiance and we must have looked a bit confused (it was crowded and chaotic in the take out area as it always is) - a staff member beckoned us over and asked if it was our first time there. He then patiently and cheerily explained how/where to order the food, the menu options, and offered us a list of recommendations from the staff. If anything the service was unusually friendly. The food was very tasty as well. We've been back several times since. One time we were on line and this couple waltzed in and sat themselves at a four seater that was occupied by two people - obviously friends they were meeting. Everyone on line exchanged looks as by then we knew that Wasn't Done. Within 30 seconds they sheepishly joined us at the end of the line at the behest of a staff member. Some might take that as hostile or a bad policy but now that couple knows the rules and maybe next time, they'll be the ones glaring at some new customers committing a faux pas. YET ANOTHER STORY: when I was a club promoter in a past life the issue of perceived "exclusivity" was one that was heartily debated. People love to complain about dress codes, cover charges, bouncer's attitudes, DJs who refuse off format requests, etc. ad. infinitum. I'm talking everything from $5 punk shows to VIP only club events. People just love to hate. If everyone loves you you're probably doing it wrong. Bottom line: people vote with their dollars. Taqueria has been busy every time we've gone. 'Nuff said.
Posted on: 2011/7/18 21:02
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Like we said, we can handle the ianmacs of the world...
Posted on: 2011/7/18 21:10
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How do you "un-ring" a bell?
Posted on: 2011/7/18 22:51
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i hope the JC location doesn't close because I enjoy it very much. And I need to check out their NYC location soon! I think the owners have done a great job with their restaurant.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 2:15
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Wow.
I've been taking my family to Taqueria for years, my kids love it, and it ranks up with Ibby's for best meals in downtown JC for under $10. My advice to the proprietors is to take what is said online with a huge grain of salt, haters are going to hate, so ignore them and instead focus on the folks who walk in and eat your food. I just don't get the hate. Yeah, so the place has its own personality. If you don't like it, don't go. If you don't like the way they run their business, don't go. If the JC location closes up, it would be a huge loss, and I will hate you until the day you die, just like I hate the Janam tea lady for moving to Portland.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 3:46
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"Someday a book will be written on how this city can be broke in the midst of all this development." ---Brewster
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To Taqueria, you did not open nor operate your business in JC to 'give back' to the city that you compared to being lower class. You did it only to make money off of the JC residents. You are not running a charity here, and it's safe to assume you would be the least giving person in the forum, especially to the city and its residents you obviously so disdain.
Based on my numerous bad experiences there, one being making me get up while I was pregnant because I sat on the chair to rest while my husband was ordering accompanied by the stink eyes by the owner, we stopped going there as well. As a small business owner myself, I really thought about posting a negative comment about another small business. But the owner's arrogance, treatments towards the community he has profited from has ignited me to write this. I have owned a successful retail business in Soho for over 6 years and let me tell you the owner of Taqueria, you have a lot to learn. You get what you give, and a lightbulb should go into your head why you might be getting so many negative comments about the experience at your establishment. There is no smoke where there is no fire. I do hope you close your location in JC. I will try my best to contribute to that by making sure not to frequent your establishment.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 13:09
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Fitting that Taqueria and Park&Sixth and on complete opposite ends of Grove St. - THIS is how you communicate with your clientele
Park and Sixth
Posted on: 2011/7/19 13:40
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Either I saw this happen to you or they have done it more than once. I'm guessing the latter.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 14:37
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I don't expect people to fall all over themselves to serve me but the responses by some people here is hysterical. "Just OBEY their rules" and "learn their procedures" and "blah, blah, blah". If a business owner is rude then they have made their own bed. No food is worth the need to humble thyself in the presence of the Grand Taco. Their behavior is not cute or ironic nor does it give the place character. I haven't been there in ages because the food is just not that great and I don't need to swallow my pride so I can swallow a mediocre taco. Now that they have revealed their true feelings toward their customers you'd really be a fool to go there. Maybe I'll open a bakery where men can get kicked in the nuts and women can be told how fat their asses look? Might be a big hit around here.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 14:39
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Taqueria owner man...what's your name Phil? You are a total doucheb@g jerk. You can't take criticism and are rude as hell to people. You got all pissed off because I challenged the authenticity of your food, and the bs that you spout so that you don't have to provide guacamole. I stopped eating at your place close to 4 years ago now due to your being such a jerk.
CLOSE NOW! Please. The sooner the better. Close, move away and drop dead.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 15:07
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It's okay to vent. Look, bottom line is no amount of horrible treatment from Taq warrants calling our darling little precious bundle of joy a d-bag. (We were just playing with her and can assure you she's really not) Those who like us really like us and it's awesome. We like you too and don't worry we're not going anywhere. And those that don't, well they despise our very being (and that of our precious little bundle of joy) And that seems to about sum it up. No more posts on our part are necessary.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 15:07
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No one should call your child names but now that you are a parent it's time to pony-up and set a good example of how to be nice to people.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 15:12
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"Can't even tell you the difference in class in the clientele in NYC than that in Jersey. So don't worry, it's just a matter of time before we close the jersey store. " Nicely put by the owner of the Taqueria.
As a parent myself, I agree, no one should stoop to calling someone's kid by names. But I think the response by the owner, and his padding back his words, is more deplorable. Please keep your words and do close the Jersey Store. Residents of Jersey, your lower class clientele, we have to be an absolute idiots to spend our money on an establishment where the owner is shows such a disregard for the town that enriched him. So I encourage people to spend their hard earned dollars elsewhere to support other eateries that are actually grateful and kind to their clienteles. Shame on you Taqueria.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 15:37
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what the hell is wrong with you people?
Why would you encourage businesses to leave Jersey City? The economy is bad enough as it is, and it?s far too difficult for new businesses to open in this city. Why start vendettas with businesses that do nothing but bring benefits to the neighborhood? If you don?t like the place, then don?t go there. A lot of people love the business and want to see it stay around for a long time. What kind of person goes somewhere, decides they don?t like it, and then spends the next few years complaining about it on a message board? Grow up.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 16:09
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CatDog said that he was kidding and it was a response to another poster, so no one called the baby a douchebag.
I personally don't want to see Taqueria DT go, like I said, we go there often and like the food. However, Taqueria's post really left a bad taste in my mouth (pun intended). Your response to a slight from one poster who called your child a name turned into you completely trashing the city where you operate your business and the customers who patron your business. So the JC residents who put money in your pockets are "low class"? You do realize that the people who go to your restaurant are not the ones who called out your baby, nor flaming your restuarant? This really makes me sad that you feel that way and I have to say, makes me uncomfortable going back. I'm sure I will go again sometime, because my kids ask for it and I like to make my kids happy. Honestly, I'd like to see an actual apology for what you said. I guess you "took it back" but you really didn't say "Hey, I said a crappy thing, I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to say my customers are low class." There are jerks who will hate you in any city. A few years ago, a bunch of moms boycotted a restaurant in Park Slope bc they banned strollers. Their business was affected enough and they realized they pissed off their customers so much that they lifted the ban. All I have to say is, it doesn't take much to piss off your customers to the point where they just won't come back. And it doesn't take much for a businesss to just admit that they are wrong to make their customers happy.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 16:50
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Thanks for the insult. Yep, we're all slobs living in outrageously expensive homes, paying outrageous rents. The lower east side clientele is so much more high brow. I'm not sure if you realize this but one reason you've succeeded so well in Jersey City is because there is NO competition. Good luck selling tacos in the lower east side. Maybe the high brow clientele from St. Marks Place will keep your business afloat. I'm not sure where you learned your business skills from, but I'd suggest you go back to school. Insulting the entire city that has made your business a success isn't exactly the way to grow your success.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 17:07
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Why is everyone carrying on and on about what he wrote? Did he specifically call you lower class? Why would you be offended by someone calling JC lower class? Perhaps JC is. I know what kind of person I am and I am certainly not offended. If you are not low class then you shouldn't be offended either.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 17:11
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http://www.yelp.com/biz/taqueria-lowe ... w-york#query:best%20tacos
Looks like the LES spot is doing just fine.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 17:15
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OMGWTFBBQ THE LES TAQUERIA HAS GUACAMOLE
STOP THE PRESSES! Cue 3 comments about selling out, 2 about avocado based discrimination, 1 history lesson on Mexican traditions involving avocados, complaints from at least 4 people who've never eaten there, etc. :) :) :)
Posted on: 2011/7/19 17:55
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"The guacamole is OUT OF CONTROL, among the best I've ever had."
-Jessica P. Piscataway, NJ hahaha. Man, wish we could get that in JC. "service is all smiles, and I've never been hurried" "something casual and not too fussy" "The most impressive thing about this place, besides the food, was the service. Our waiter was prompt and engaging. And when my mom and I started to have a moment, he did the unthinkable- left us alone! How many waiters do you know will wait to ask if we need another drink until the conversation is done? Very impressive." "Service is excellent, great laid back vibe." Wow. amazing. makes me wanna go there.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:09
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Yeah, seriously ... if the service is so good at the LES location, no wonder the customers on the LES show so much more "class".
If the LES customers were given the surly attitudes that are fairly common at the Grove Street location, would they continue to show such "class"? I think they would not.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:30
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Do the drunk LESiders get Fajitas too? Do the wait staff have to wear the requisite 5 pieces of flair? Cause that's high class!
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:35
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Well there you have it folks. The LES spot has learned from the constant mistakes of the JC spot. Guac + good customer service = an ok joint. Now the question is - will Taqueria fix all that's wrong at the JC spot? Will they continue to be d-bags (except the baby obviously); after all, why should lower class customers deserve the same kind of treatment as the high class NYC customers? Only time will tell.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:42
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They have chips too! Wtf?
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:46
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this entire post is baffling to me. my husband & i go to taqueria every weekend, we've never had a problem with anyone that works there nor have we ever seen any customers have issues while we're there. we've been going for years. not one single issue. tons of tasty meals. i'm not saying we walk in there & run over to hug us but that's not what i expect either. nor do i get that type of treatment at any other food establishment i frequent regularly in jc.
that being said: tacotruck dude, you're breaking my heart with that jc lower class bullshit statement. there wouldn't be a taqueria lower east side if it wasn't for your loyal jc customers. an apology and adding guacamole to the menu in jc might make up for that one but i'm tremendously disappointed.
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:50
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Here's some honest questions for all you Taqueria lovers: if the "business model" is so good in Jersey City (i.e. pretentious / cheeky humor, no guac because it's not authentic, etc.), why is there a completely different model in NYC?
Could it be that the Jersey City location was merely nothing more than a market research ploy in order to see what works and what doesn't work in the NYC market? It's certainly possible, especially given the owner's most recent comments about the "class" of the clientele in Jersey City. If this is indeed true (and this is nothing more than speculation at this point, but could wind up being true if Taqueria closes in the next ~3-6 months), would your viewpoint change at all? Or would it still be that great taco joint that "does so much for the neighborhood"? Could this help explain to the naysayers (who have no idea how anyone could say anything bad about Taqueria) why a thread with 400 posts exists on the topic?
Posted on: 2011/7/19 18:54
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I think the obvious answer is they will rant on JCList where half their customer base logs on or hears about from someone else who logs on. They will probably crucify you in their rant for even suggesting that they need to change anything. Instead of fixing their problems they will blame bad customers. They will say JC isn't ready for authentic Los Angelesian Mexican food. They will tell us instead how unrefined our palettes are because some people will wonder why Mexican food doesn't have guacamole. And then just for good measure they will reprimand us for references that were never even made about their children while simultaneously yelling at pregnant customers for sitting down before placing their food order. Because that's what ordering food in Mexico is like. That's authentic.
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