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6/1/18 - NY Post:

Lyft plans to purchase the company that operates Citi Bike, a new report says.

The ride-share app is moving to purchase Motivate, which runs Citi Bike and other bike-share programs in several cities. Including New York City, it also operates in Boston, Washington, DC, and Chicago, according to the tech site The Information.

The purchase would be worth at least $250 million, the site reported.

Lyft officials declined to comment on the pending purchase and would not say how the move will affect New York City operations. Motivate did not return a phone call.

Lyft isn’t the first ride-share company to get into the bike game. Uber purchased Brooklyn-based dockless bike-share company Jump in April.

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FWIW - Lyft is the sponsor of Hudson Bike Share - serving other parts of Hudson County. Maybe this deal will (sensibly) bring the area's bike share programs together.

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By The Jersey Journal
Citi Bike Jersey City announced that it is moving forward with a plan to relocate some of its least popular docking stations in the city

The plan leaves nearly all neighborhoods south of Communipaw Avenue without access to the bike-share system.

The company will move eight stations, three at light rail stops, though it is not yet decided where the stations will be moved. They will likely be relocated to areas with higher ridership, such as the Downtown area.

In August, after saying the city was backing out of the plan to relocate stations, Mayor Steve Fulop said the city was going to work with Citi Bike to increase ridership in where ridership was low, by offering subsidies and promoting the bike-share system.

Citi Bike Jersey City launched in September 2015 with great fanfare, with Fulop at the time saying he believed it was crucial that residents in every area of the city be have access to the system.

The system is run and funded by a private company. It won a five-year contract in January 2015 to operate Citi Bike Jersey City, agreeing to pick up the roughly $2.5 million cost to pay for bikes and stations. It was only company that bid on the contract.

After the first year of service, the city was expected to get a cut of the program's profits.

Should Jersey City pull out of its contract with Citi Bike?

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In the Heights, we have a big problem with people riding to public transportation, etc, then the racks being empty for long periods of time so no one else can ride. Citibike is supposed to 'rebalance,' bringing more bikes, but they are often slow to do this (if they do it at all). I'd imagine this problem is even worse in other areas. Yes, it is an expense for Citibike, but if the city is allowing stations on public land with the intention of improving transportation for the city, they need to push to make sure it happens.

We were in danger of losing our stations last year but ended up keeping many of them. However, there are still often no bikes mid-day.


Do you use the Leonard Gordon station? There is a problem with more people riding to Journal Square than people riding back and I suspect it's because the ride back to the heights is a bit more arduous. In the last week I've noticed there are more bikes at the station and hope it's a sign of better rebalancing

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Similar problem in much of downtown. They seem to manage the Grove St. and Exchange Place stations okay for the most part, but the redistribution of bikes elsewhere is very inconsistent - both in volume and timing. I used to see the bike van at the station across the street from my building at least a couple times a week - I don't think I've seen it since at least last summer.

The station by the Paulus Hook ferry terminal is too small and seems to be unmanaged. The fifteen or so spaces fill up in the morning before 8 and empty out in the evening by 6. For the price they charge, it wouldn't be too much to expect either a significantly larger station there (plenty of room for it) or active management of the bikes.

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In the Heights, we have a big problem with people riding to public transportation, etc, then the racks being empty for long periods of time so no one else can ride. Citibike is supposed to 'rebalance,' bringing more bikes, but they are often slow to do this (if they do it at all). I'd imagine this problem is even worse in other areas. Yes, it is an expense for Citibike, but if the city is allowing stations on public land with the intention of improving transportation for the city, they need to push to make sure it happens.

We were in danger of losing our stations last year but ended up keeping many of them. However, there are still often no bikes mid-day.

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LOL, the little Manhattan that couldn't.

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If they can't fulfill their end of the contract then the city should cancel it.


that's ridiculous. if the residents don't utilize the service the company should waste time, cost and effort in those areas rather than shift to areas with a population that are clamoring for the bikes?

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That Bike JC statement / position is certainly different from the Citi Bike statement that said Bike JC endorsed the relocation plan.


They did not say that Bike JC endorsed it. They said their own data showed low usage in those docks, and noted that Bike JC’s recent analysis of Citi Bike’s data also showed that.

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Just saw a new station on Glenwood between JFK and West Side Avenue by the Saint Peter's Campus. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but the rack really does block the sidewalk given the foot traffic that normally is on that stretch of sidewalk.

Better there than in the street where traffic flows at an safe speed and too close for comfort.

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That Bike JC statement / position is certainly different from the Citi Bike statement that said Bike JC endorsed the relocation plan. Citi Bike is pretty much a DTJC feel good gentrified experience.

I am all for cutting back on the number of city/county vehicles and investing in tandem bikes for city employees to use. It would be cheaper for the city to buy them and contract Grove Street Bike to maintain them.

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If they can't fulfill their end of the contract then the city should cancel it.

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Bike JC's full statement on the recent station relocations is right here:

Bike JC is very sorry to see that Citi Bike JC docking stations are being relocated from large areas in the southern third of Jersey City. As with earlier removals in the northern Heights, the latest realignment is unfortunate and painful for several reasons.

Some of the stations had groups of regular users who are now deprived of service. And several of the stations served or are in or near, underserved communities, and neighborhoods with many lower-income residents, which raises the serious concern that this rebalance will exacerbate the already documented equity gap in bike share systems.

Citi Bike JC’s operators, Motivate, are moving eight of its least-used stations to areas where other stations are already heavily used. We have no doubt this will improve service within those areas, will let Motivate re-balance the bikes between stations with less delay and expense, and will encourage more people in those areas to buy memberships, keeping the company financially sound—and hopefully, over time, allowing it to expand again into a wider area.

This is now very similar to the model of the affiliated Citi Bike NYC, which serves something like 20% of the land area of New York City, including its densest and most transit-friendly areas and, recently, including large communities of color such as Harlem and Bedford-Stuyvesant. It also leaves 80% of NYC without bike share. We believe Motivate when they say that that model is the only way they can operate in a self-sustainable way over time under its current conditions.

But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t all continue to try for something better. We believe everyone in Jersey City should have access to high-quality bike share. It’s a small enough place that we should be able to support it even in the far north and south.

So we call on the city government, Motivate, and our residents and community organizations to work together, and explore several possibilities:

Public or private subsidy for Citi Bike JC – We all subsidize various forms of mass transit, including trains and buses, through our taxes, tolls, and other payments. Why should bike share be any different? It improves safety and health, moves people efficiently, and is more equitable than expensive car travel—if we make it accessible to everyone. The city should fund Citi Bike JC sufficiently to allow it to expand throughout the city; there may be public or private grants available for the same purpose.

Better discount programs – JC Housing Authority residents are already eligible for discounted $5 monthly membership. But uptake is slow (as it is in NYC), due in part to a lack of awareness and difficulties for people without credit cards. We should do more to promote, expand, and improve these discount programs.

Dockless bike share – Using shared bikes that can be parked without docks, dockless bike share, has sometimes been criticized as untidy, but it also is gaining a reputation for serving low-income communities and less-dense urban areas effectively. Several competing companies are offering dockless bike share
now, and Motivate is reportedly testing its own version. Some cities now host both docked and dockless bike share; Jersey City could be one of those cities.

Government and business employees on bike share — The city government should replace some of its use of cars with bike share for short trips; this would save taxpayer dollars. Both government and local business should offer no-cost or deeply subsidized Citi Bike JC memberships for all employees as a matter of course, as an employee benefit. All these measures would get more people biking in safer streets and pump money into the system.

Business and developer sponsorship of stations – Citi Bike JC accepts sponsorships for docking stations to be located near a particular business or residential development, for the benefit of its employees or residents, and the station is then also available to everyone else. Encouraging more of these—perhaps during the approval process for new development—could help spread and support bike share.

Protected bike network – Some of it is already being planned, but it’s essential that the city build out a complete network of protected bike lanes and other bikeable streets and pathways if bike share is to reach its full potential in Jersey City. Membership in NYC has already benefited from the miles of protected lanes there.
Study after study shows that traffic safety is the top concern for cyclists and non-cyclists and that protected bike lanes, once installed, are safe, effective, and popular.

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Citi Bike Jersey City is closing these poorest-performing stations

JERSEY CITY – Citi Bike Jersey City is moving forward with a plan to relocate more than 15 percent of its docking stations, leaving nearly all neighborhoods south of Communipaw Avenue without access to the bike-share system.

The decision, which was announced last week, will remove eight of the least popular stations, including those at three light rail stops, a state college, and a community center. While officials have not announced where exactly the stations will be moved, they are expected to be brought to areas with higher ridership. A majority of the system is located Downtown.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _from_the_southern_e.html


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Just saw a new station on Glenwood between JFK and West Side Avenue by the Saint Peter's Campus. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but the rack really does block the sidewalk given the foot traffic that normally is on that stretch of sidewalk.

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So they are removing racks from LightRail Stations? Isn't connecting the community (wards) to public transit points one of the reasons for the program's existence?

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CitiBike JC is withdrawing from Wards A, B, and F. If you live in these wards, or ride CitiBike there, they'll offer you a prorated refund.

Some combination of high annual membership cost, low density of stations, and who knows what other factors, mean that bike share is not going to be part of residents', workers', students' and visitors' transportation solutions in half of the city.

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At Citi Bike Jersey City, we are always seeking to provide the best service for as many riders as possible. After evaluating our 2017 ridership data (also recently analyzed by our friends at Bike JC), and coordinating with the City of Jersey City, we will be relocating 9 of the least utilized stations in the network to boost capacity in high demand areas.

The stations that will be relocated are:

NJCU
Union Street
Columbia Park
Danforth Light Rail
Bayview Park
MLK Light Rail
West Side Light Rail
Garfield Avenue
Bethune Center

We understand these changes may mean a loss of service to some current members. If you think you are one of them, just give us a call at 1-855-BIKE-311 and we are happy to provide a prorated refund. If you’ve used any of these stations in the past three months, we will send you an email notifying you when we plan to relocate it. We will also be sure to update our app as these stations are moved and new ones join the system. We believe that these adjustments will provide improved service and build a strong foundation for future growth.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

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The opening assertion is not entirely accurate. CitiBike is not withdrawing entirely from Wards B or F. In Ward F, they will still have several other stations, and the same is true of Ward B. What they have done is make a decision to relocate all the stations SOUTH of Communipaw Avenue.

If some stations are not being used, it makes sense to relocate them to better support ridership in areas where additional service is needed/desired.

Regardless, the CitiBike model needs to be re-examined. In other cities around the world where bike shares do much better, there is usually a different model in place. In London, the bike share system (Santander Cycle) is part of the metropolitan transport system (Transport for London) and Santander pays a fee to be the sole sponsor and their fares (particularly the daily fares) are much lower, which encourages residents and visitors alike to use the bikes. CitiBike would be wise to lower the daily rate to something that would encourage people to use them more often. At $12/day, the cost is ridiculously high. Contrast that to London's 24-hr pass of less than $3.

Regardless, this post is a bit alarmist: some racks are getting relocated. We still don't know where they will end up. Heck, some may end up right in the same wards. Or, maybe they end up in other wards. But, even if they move all of them to other wards, neither wards B nor F are being deprived of CitiBike racks entirely.


They are relocating nice racks, three of which are located close to light rail stations. Logistically, keeping random racks by light rail stations makes little sense if there are no other racks in the vicinity or neighborhood. Since they are removing all the racks south of Communipaw, also removing the ones from the light rail stations south of Communipaw makes sense.

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So they are removing racks from LightRail Stations? Isn't connecting the community (wards) to public transit points one of the reasons for the program's existence?

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CitiBike JC is withdrawing from Wards A, B, and F. If you live in these wards, or ride CitiBike there, they'll offer you a prorated refund.

Some combination of high annual membership cost, low density of stations, and who knows what other factors, mean that bike share is not going to be part of residents', workers', students' and visitors' transportation solutions in half of the city.

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At Citi Bike Jersey City, we are always seeking to provide the best service for as many riders as possible. After evaluating our 2017 ridership data (also recently analyzed by our friends at Bike JC), and coordinating with the City of Jersey City, we will be relocating 9 of the least utilized stations in the network to boost capacity in high demand areas.

The stations that will be relocated are:

NJCU
Union Street
Columbia Park
Danforth Light Rail
Bayview Park
MLK Light Rail
West Side Light Rail
Garfield Avenue
Bethune Center

We understand these changes may mean a loss of service to some current members. If you think you are one of them, just give us a call at 1-855-BIKE-311 and we are happy to provide a prorated refund. If you’ve used any of these stations in the past three months, we will send you an email notifying you when we plan to relocate it. We will also be sure to update our app as these stations are moved and new ones join the system. We believe that these adjustments will provide improved service and build a strong foundation for future growth.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

Citi Bike Jersey City


The opening assertion is not entirely accurate. CitiBike is not withdrawing entirely from Wards B or F. In Ward F, they will still have several other stations, and the same is true of Ward B. What they have done is make a decision to relocate all the stations SOUTH of Communipaw Avenue.

If some stations are not being used, it makes sense to relocate them to better support ridership in areas where additional service is needed/desired.

Regardless, the CitiBike model needs to be re-examined. In other cities around the world where bike shares do much better, there is usually a different model in place. In London, the bike share system (Santander Cycle) is part of the metropolitan transport system (Transport for London) and Santander pays a fee to be the sole sponsor and their fares (particularly the daily fares) are much lower, which encourages residents and visitors alike to use the bikes. CitiBike would be wise to lower the daily rate to something that would encourage people to use them more often. At $12/day, the cost is ridiculously high. Contrast that to London's 24-hr pass of less than $3.

Regardless, this post is a bit alarmist: some racks are getting relocated. We still don't know where they will end up. Heck, some may end up right in the same wards. Or, maybe they end up in other wards. But, even if they move all of them to other wards, neither wards B nor F are being deprived of CitiBike racks entirely.

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CitiBike JC is withdrawing from Wards A, B, and F. If you live in these wards, or ride CitiBike there, they'll offer you a prorated refund.

Some combination of high annual membership cost, low density of stations, and who knows what other factors, mean that bike share is not going to be part of residents', workers', students' and visitors' transportation solutions in half of the city.

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Dear riders,

At Citi Bike Jersey City, we are always seeking to provide the best service for as many riders as possible. After evaluating our 2017 ridership data (also recently analyzed by our friends at Bike JC), and coordinating with the City of Jersey City, we will be relocating 9 of the least utilized stations in the network to boost capacity in high demand areas.

The stations that will be relocated are:

NJCU
Union Street
Columbia Park
Danforth Light Rail
Bayview Park
MLK Light Rail
West Side Light Rail
Garfield Avenue
Bethune Center

We understand these changes may mean a loss of service to some current members. If you think you are one of them, just give us a call at 1-855-BIKE-311 and we are happy to provide a prorated refund. If you’ve used any of these stations in the past three months, we will send you an email notifying you when we plan to relocate it. We will also be sure to update our app as these stations are moved and new ones join the system. We believe that these adjustments will provide improved service and build a strong foundation for future growth.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

Citi Bike Jersey City


The opening assertion is not entirely accurate. CitiBike is not withdrawing entirely from Wards B or F. In Ward F, they will still have several other stations, and the same is true of Ward B. What they have done is make a decision to relocate all the stations SOUTH of Communipaw Avenue.

If some stations are not being used, it makes sense to relocate them to better support ridership in areas where additional service is needed/desired.

Regardless, the CitiBike model needs to be re-examined. In other cities around the world where bike shares do much better, there is usually a different model in place. In London, the bike share system (Santander Cycle) is part of the metropolitan transport system (Transport for London) and Santander pays a fee to be the sole sponsor and their fares (particularly the daily fares) are much lower, which encourages residents and visitors alike to use the bikes. CitiBike would be wise to lower the daily rate to something that would encourage people to use them more often. At $12/day, the cost is ridiculously high. Contrast that to London's 24-hr pass of less than $3.

Regardless, this post is a bit alarmist: some racks are getting relocated. We still don't know where they will end up. Heck, some may end up right in the same wards. Or, maybe they end up in other wards. But, even if they move all of them to other wards, neither wards B nor F are being deprived of CitiBike racks entirely.

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The system is horribly managed in Jersey City.

Bike racks either full where you cannot dock or empty where you cannot get a bike.

Should have the van roving around satisfying the demand during the day.

And it's not surprised they pulled all the docks from the hood.

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So what am I missing? Why do they have to remove all the bikes/racks? I thought the purpose of the blue van was to move the bikes back to high usage areas? Hard to believe Bike JC endorsed this... what's next closing untravelled bike-only lanes because they are high maintenance and never used?

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CitiBike JC is withdrawing from Wards A, B, and F. If you live in these wards, or ride CitiBike there, they'll offer you a prorated refund.

Some combination of high annual membership cost, low density of stations, and who knows what other factors, mean that bike share is not going to be part of residents', workers', students' and visitors' transportation solutions in half of the city.

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Dear riders,

At Citi Bike Jersey City, we are always seeking to provide the best service for as many riders as possible. After evaluating our 2017 ridership data (also recently analyzed by our friends at Bike JC), and coordinating with the City of Jersey City, we will be relocating 9 of the least utilized stations in the network to boost capacity in high demand areas.

The stations that will be relocated are:

NJCU
Union Street
Columbia Park
Danforth Light Rail
Bayview Park
MLK Light Rail
West Side Light Rail
Garfield Avenue
Bethune Center

We understand these changes may mean a loss of service to some current members. If you think you are one of them, just give us a call at 1-855-BIKE-311 and we are happy to provide a prorated refund. If you’ve used any of these stations in the past three months, we will send you an email notifying you when we plan to relocate it. We will also be sure to update our app as these stations are moved and new ones join the system. We believe that these adjustments will provide improved service and build a strong foundation for future growth.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

Citi Bike Jersey City

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I'm sure the locals will be happy to get some parking back!

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CitiBike JC is withdrawing from Wards A, B, and F. If you live in these wards, or ride CitiBike there, they'll offer you a prorated refund.

Some combination of high annual membership cost, low density of stations, and who knows what other factors, mean that bike share is not going to be part of residents', workers', students' and visitors' transportation solutions in half of the city.

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Dear riders,

At Citi Bike Jersey City, we are always seeking to provide the best service for as many riders as possible. After evaluating our 2017 ridership data (also recently analyzed by our friends at Bike JC), and coordinating with the City of Jersey City, we will be relocating 9 of the least utilized stations in the network to boost capacity in high demand areas.

The stations that will be relocated are:

NJCU
Union Street
Columbia Park
Danforth Light Rail
Bayview Park
MLK Light Rail
West Side Light Rail
Garfield Avenue
Bethune Center

We understand these changes may mean a loss of service to some current members. If you think you are one of them, just give us a call at 1-855-BIKE-311 and we are happy to provide a prorated refund. If you’ve used any of these stations in the past three months, we will send you an email notifying you when we plan to relocate it. We will also be sure to update our app as these stations are moved and new ones join the system. We believe that these adjustments will provide improved service and build a strong foundation for future growth.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

Citi Bike Jersey City

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Citizens have a right to determine if parking is lost just like citizens have the right to determine if a lease is given to a marina in Liberty State Park. Citizens should not be ignored.

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I tried using the online form a couple times previously with no acknowledgement of receipt or reply... just tried that again last night and this time got an acknowledgement of receipt. So we'll see.

It appears that in Motivate's contract with NYC, certain metrics for service & bike availability are specified; Motivate publishes monthly reports on these metrics here:
https://www.citibikenyc.com/system-data/operating-reports

Not sure if Jersey City has similar system performance requirements in its agreement with Motivate - but I would hope so. If it does, either Motivate is out of compliance for fleet size, or the standard agreed to by the city for minimum fleet size it too low. I'll try following up with the city, too.

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Hey, have any of you regular users of the Citibike system in Jersey City noticed that there seem to be many fewer bikes than usual the last couple weeks?

I just did a quick survey on the online station map, and counted 198 bikes in 52 stations in JC. There are also a number of bikes out on rides at any given moment, but on a ~20F day, not… hundreds.

When the program expanded in 2016 the fleet size was stated as 500 bikes (up from the original system of 350 bikes + 35 stations).

My guess is the operator took some bikes out of circulation, anticipating lower demand over the winter, but I think they went too far. The stations I use most frequently often have 0 or 1 or 2 bikes available. I’m trying to figure out how to contact the operator (Motivate) in a meaningful way about this… maybe it’s best to raise the issue with the city / mayor’s office?


Your answer is in your last paragraph: the operator withdraws a certain amount of bikes during Winter because of lower demand, to prevent damage from exposure to harsh elements (lower temperatures, snow, sand, etc) and to perform routine maintenance on some bikes. You can provide feedback via the CitiBike website. Not sure how the city would be any help, other than acting as a go between to relay your message.

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Hey, have any of you regular users of the Citibike system in Jersey City noticed that there seem to be many fewer bikes than usual the last couple weeks?

I just did a quick survey on the online station map, and counted 198 bikes in 52 stations in JC. There are also a number of bikes out on rides at any given moment, but on a ~20F day, not… hundreds.

When the program expanded in 2016 the fleet size was stated as 500 bikes (up from the original system of 350 bikes + 35 stations).

My guess is the operator took some bikes out of circulation, anticipating lower demand over the winter, but I think they went too far. The stations I use most frequently often have 0 or 1 or 2 bikes available. I’m trying to figure out how to contact the operator (Motivate) in a meaningful way about this… maybe it’s best to raise the issue with the city / mayor’s office?

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CarePoint Health footing the bill for free Citi Bike rides in Jersey City through Aug. 28

By Corey McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on August 27, 2016 at 8:03 AM

JERSEY CITY — It's looking to be a great weekend for a bike ride — especially when the rides are free.

Citi Bike Jersey City and CarePoint Health will be offering free rides to the public through tomorrow. The special promotion is marking Citi Bike growth — the company now has 50 bike share stations and 500 bikes in Jersey City.

"As a founding partner of Citi Bike Jersey City, CarePoint Health is thrilled to see it grow to 50 stations this year," CarePoint CEO Jeff Mandler said in a statement.

"By giving Jersey City a free ride weekend, we hope that every resident can experience first-hand the health, transportation and happiness benefits bike share offers."

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... health_footing_the_b.html


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Not sure if anyone saw this, but this past Tuesday CitiBike JC set a new record for number of trips in a single day.

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>>...imagine the outrage if CitiBike starts taking over what some neighbors and businesses consider to be "prime spots".

We don't even have to imagine, since they've been through dozens of dock-siting controversies in NYC and in the initial JC rollout:

In a park? Ruining the view.
Historic district? George Washington never rode one (but 1000 modern parked cars are fine).
Heavy foot traffic? It'll be in the way.
Light foot traffic? Too far out of the way.
On a county road? City doesn't have jurisdiction.

Etc.

My personal favorite was the parents at a NYC school who basically said their children would be kidnapped and murdered by the undesirable element a dock would attract to the area.

Anyway, the initial position of a new dock is often already an obvious compromise based on known objections, and then some get moved later, for reasons good and less good. You'll get the ideal locations when we have the ideal civic culture.


You are right. I do remember some of the controversies early on in NYC. Particularly the one about The Plaza objecting to a rack located right in front of the hotel, and another from an UWS (or, UES?) neighborhood group claiming that a docking station on "their" block would negatively, and irreparably, affect their property values.

But, I have to hand it to Bloomberg... He stood his ground and fought most of those silly complaints.

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>>...imagine the outrage if CitiBike starts taking over what some neighbors and businesses consider to be "prime spots".

We don't even have to imagine, since they've been through dozens of dock-siting controversies in NYC and in the initial JC rollout:

In a park? Ruining the view.
Historic district? George Washington never rode one (but 1000 modern parked cars are fine).
Heavy foot traffic? It'll be in the way.
Light foot traffic? Too far out of the way.
On a county road? City doesn't have jurisdiction.

Etc.

My personal favorite was the parents at a NYC school who basically said their children would be kidnapped and murdered by the undesirable element a dock would attract to the area.

Anyway, the initial position of a new dock is often already an obvious compromise based on known objections, and then some get moved later, for reasons good and less good. You'll get the ideal locations when we have the ideal civic culture.

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