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i agree 150% that a museum in journal square is not the brightest idea. i think along the waterfront or near liberty science center makes more sense as it might be able to leverage off the foot traffic downtown/tourist, the mall or liberty science centerQuote:

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Because the city record with museums and community centers is so great??? The previous expensively renovated museum on Montgomery was absurdly underutilized, there was a sweet little theater in there that was never used. And the school on 9th is supposed to be a community center too. Anybody ever go there? When HPNA wanted to meet there they made it such a PITA we stopped trying. I recall the gym was leased to St Anthonys to help pay the absurd cost of the building, what's doing there now? So here we go again!

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Is PJ Ryan’s closing? Someone mentioned this at the Hilltop association meeting.

Also, new spot Korai Kitchen on summit is excellent. Bangladeshi buffet, opened this past weekend.

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Because the city record with museums and community centers is so great??? The previous expensively renovated museum on Montgomery was absurdly underutilized, there was a sweet little theater in there that was never used. And the school on 9th is supposed to be a community center too. Anybody ever go there? When HPNA wanted to meet there they made it such a PITA we stopped trying. I recall the gym was leased to St Anthonys to help pay the absurd cost of the building, what's doing there now? So here we go again!

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Jersey City council OKs $10M deal for new museum

Updated 4:51 PM; Posted 4:17 PM (1/23/2018)

By Terrence T. McDonald tmcdonald@jjournal.com

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JERSEY CITY -- A plan to turn a county building into a city-run museum and community center advanced last night when the City Council approved a deal to borrow $10 million to buy the building and hire a consultant to help create it.

The council voted 7-2 to approve the measure, a subsidy agreement between the city and the autonomous Jersey City Redevelopment Agency, which is overseeing the museum project. The deal puts the city on the hook for the $10 million the JCRA is bonding for the museum.

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JERSEY CITY -- The owners of a property just outside Journal Square are demanding the city comply with a judicial order to vacate a portion of West Street, an action that would allow for construction of a high-rise on the site.

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Does anyone know what % of the first Journal Square tower is rented out?

I wonder when some interesting retail & restaurants will come to the blocks right around JSQ. The cynical side of me says "never" and the block from the PATH station to Tonnelle will always be exactly as it is now. The glass half full version of me says "be patient, it will happen."



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Eh, i get it. Have you ever actually tried to eat in JSQ? Besides a few good Indian joints on Newark, there really isnt much thats good OR interesting. It has nothing to do with ethnic. Its honestly just nothing you would want to venture out for with a date, or friends.

But to answer the previous question, yes I do think some good options will start to trickle in soon




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Eh, i get it. Have you ever actually tried to eat in JSQ? Besides a few good Indian joints on Newark, there really isnt much thats good OR interesting. It has nothing to do with ethnic. Its honestly just nothing you would want to venture out for with a date, or friends.

But to answer the previous question, yes I do think some good options will start to trickle in soon

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Does anyone know what % of the first Journal Square tower is rented out?

I wonder when some interesting retail & restaurants will come to the blocks right around JSQ. The cynical side of me says "never" and the block from the PATH station to Tonnelle will always be exactly as it is now. The glass half full version of me says "be patient, it will happen."

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Jersey City may get its own version of Big Ben.

The developers behind the three-tower Journal Squared project won approval from the city Planning Board recently to add a giant digital clock to the next tower slated for construction.

Unlike London's iconic Big Ben, which sits atop a 315-foot tower, the Journal Squared timepiece will be much closer to the ground. A rendering of the building shows the clock near the ground floor of the 759-foot building. It will face south, toward the plaza that leads into the Journal Square PATH hub.

Crews broke ground on the second Journal Squared tower earlier this year. The 72-story high-rise is expected to be completed in 2020. It is the tallest of the nine high-rises planned for Journal Square.

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Cool.

Fast forward 12 more years...


Yup. They'll be going before the planning board for two 110 floor towers then...

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Cool.

Fast forward 12 more years...

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(Check out the redesigned towers)

Updated on September 27, 2017 at 5:01 PM Posted on September 27, 2017 at 4:56 PM
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Revised plans for One Journal Square, the $800 million, two-tower Kushner Companies project slated for a plot of land outside the Journal Square PATH hub, were approved unanimously by the Jersey City Planning Board last night.

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more greenspace please?

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Kushners resurrect plans for Journal Square towers

Updated on September 25, 2017 at 5:28 PM Posted on September 25, 2017 at 2:28 PM

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JERSEY CITY -- One Journal Square, the controversial residential and office towers proposed by the family of presidential son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner, is being resurrected, with revised plans for the beleaguered project scheduled to go before the Planning Board tomorrow.

The future of the two-tower project appeared in jeopardy earlier this year when Mayor Steve Fulop announced the developers -- Kushner Cos. and KABR Group -- would not receive a package of city subsidies they requested. A major investor and planned tenant also pulled out of the deal, and a critical state tax break fell through.


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.Magnolia Landing Series features local artisans, vendors near Journal Square (PHOTOS)

Updated on July 23, 2017 at 9:45 AM Posted on July 22, 2017 at 6:15 PM
By Corey W. McDonald The Jersey Journal

JERSEY CITY -- A number of artisan, vintage and food vendors were on hand near the Journal Square PATH station Saturday for the Magnolia Summer Landing Series.

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PS - if Starbucks is your cup of tea...the new Journal Square location is open for business.

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My mother did not drive either but the doctor was walking distance, that is not the case anymore. I have kept the same doctor and dentist for a long time, yet both moved. The doctor moved when St. Francis was changed into housing and the dentist moved when his business was burgalzied. Both are not walking distance.

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I am glad you informed me my non-driving mom did not raise up properly by taking us to the doctor on a bus. What a relief! Now I can rest easy.

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There will be a time in most people's lives when owning a car is the practical answer. It basically starts when you have kids. It is difficult to put an infant on the back of a bike to take your newborn to the doctor's office.

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I see a bunch of "in an ideal world" arguments in favor of not making developers include parking in their planned large multi unit buildings. But its not an ideal world, and many of the people willing to spend the money to live in a new modern building ARE going to bring their cars along with them and try to shoe horn these cars into the existing infrastructure. It would CERTAINLY negatively impact the quality of life for the rest of us. People who already have cars in the area are likely to tell you that its becoming increasingly difficult to find parking as it is, and those of us without cars, the majority, have enough trouble crossing the street without the percentage of vehicles increasing. There is NO good aspect of new construction that does not include parking. In my view the exclusion of parking spaces in new construction is ONLY a reflection of the developers wish to maximize profitability and all development from this point on should include parking within the developments proposed, it should be a mandatory requirement and be non-negotiable.


You are correct, and luckily the practical people have won the debate.


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I wonder if underground parking is prohibitively expensive, or if developers just want the cheapest option.

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I see a bunch of "in an ideal world" arguments in favor of not making developers include parking in their planned large multi unit buildings. But its not an ideal world, and many of the people willing to spend the money to live in a new modern building ARE going to bring their cars along with them and try to shoe horn these cars into the existing infrastructure. It would CERTAINLY negatively impact the quality of life for the rest of us. People who already have cars in the area are likely to tell you that its becoming increasingly difficult to find parking as it is, and those of us without cars, the majority, have enough trouble crossing the street without the percentage of vehicles increasing. There is NO good aspect of new construction that does not include parking. In my view the exclusion of parking spaces in new construction is ONLY a reflection of the developers wish to maximize profitability and all development from this point on should include parking within the developments proposed, it should be a mandatory requirement and be non-negotiable.


You are correct, and luckily the practical people have won the debate.

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I see a bunch of "in an ideal world" arguments in favor of not making developers include parking in their planned large multi unit buildings. But its not an ideal world, and many of the people willing to spend the money to live in a new modern building ARE going to bring their cars along with them and try to shoe horn these cars into the existing infrastructure. It would CERTAINLY negatively impact the quality of life for the rest of us. People who already have cars in the area are likely to tell you that its becoming increasingly difficult to find parking as it is, and those of us without cars, the majority, have enough trouble crossing the street without the percentage of vehicles increasing. There is NO good aspect of new construction that does not include parking. In my view the exclusion of parking spaces in new construction is ONLY a reflection of the developers wish to maximize profitability and all development from this point on should include parking within the developments proposed, it should be a mandatory requirement and be non-negotiable.


Again, parking in a crowded city is a luxury, not a right. If you want the convenience of a parking spot in a city, you'll need to pay for it.

This is nothing more than paying for a service.

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1. Fine, build garages to absorb the extra parking from the new developments, but PLEASE hide the eyesore garages underground or in the middle of the block on large scale projects so we dont have to see the streetscape ruined with these structures.



Can't be realistically done as undergound garages are prohibitively expensive $$$. There are also water table and flooding issues. Hiding the garages middle block can only be done on very big sites.

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2. On the other hand, more parking offered will encourage more drivers. Even if parking is not an issue bc its self contained in the building, you are going to have a big increase in traffic on these narrow streets through the city. Encouraging people with a NYC mentality to move in and ditch their cars will make for a better standard of living for existing drivers and peds who dont want to navigate a city over capacity with cars.


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I dont think proposing a building this small near mass transit without parking is such a bad thing. But apparently we're years away from that being a popular idea.


It's exactly the type of building we should be building in Journal Square. If I were term, I'd open up a contact with one of the nearby lots and say parking will be provided to residents at the going rate of the lot. There you have it, parking for any new resident that wants it. With zone parking, there would be no issuance of a permit for the new residents since parking would be available.

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I see a bunch of "in an ideal world" arguments in favor of not making developers include parking in their planned large multi unit buildings. But its not an ideal world, and many of the people willing to spend the money to live in a new modern building ARE going to bring their cars along with them and try to shoe horn these cars into the existing infrastructure. It would CERTAINLY negatively impact the quality of life for the rest of us. People who already have cars in the area are likely to tell you that its becoming increasingly difficult to find parking as it is, and those of us without cars, the majority, have enough trouble crossing the street without the percentage of vehicles increasing. There is NO good aspect of new construction that does not include parking. In my view the exclusion of parking spaces in new construction is ONLY a reflection of the developers wish to maximize profitability and all development from this point on should include parking within the developments proposed, it should be a mandatory requirement and be non-negotiable.


Let the market solve this problem. Developers will respond to market conditions and strike the right balance in providing parking for residents and accommodating those that don't want a car. The city has failed miserably as the downtown buildings only have 40 percent of their garage occupied.

Parking adds significantly to the cost of housing. Each spot costs around $40,000, which is subsidized by the housing component. There is no such thing as free parking.

Also the city should revise on street parking permit requirements. Residents in new buildings should be ineligible to receive a permit and would have to pay for a private spot if none in their building. That protects the current spaces for existing long term residents and guards against a cheap developer marketing their building as "ample on street parking nearby."

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I see your point that more projects mean more people who are likely to drive as would be the case with almost every American city outside of NYC. Even though there is 24 hour mass transit a few blocks away, people are just likely to rely on having a car. I look at it in 2 ways.

1. Fine, build garages to absorb the extra parking from the new developments, but PLEASE hide the eyesore garages underground or in the middle of the block on large scale projects so we dont have to see the streetscape ruined with these structures.

2. On the other hand, more parking offered will encourage more drivers. Even if parking is not an issue bc its self contained in the building, you are going to have a big increase in traffic on these narrow streets through the city. Encouraging people with a NYC mentality to move in and ditch their cars will make for a better standard of living for existing drivers and peds who dont want to navigate a city over capacity with cars.

I dont think proposing a building this small near mass transit without parking is such a bad thing. But apparently we're years away from that being a popular idea.

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I see a bunch of "in an ideal world" arguments in favor of not making developers include parking in their planned large multi unit buildings. But its not an ideal world, and many of the people willing to spend the money to live in a new modern building ARE going to bring their cars along with them and try to shoe horn these cars into the existing infrastructure. It would CERTAINLY negatively impact the quality of life for the rest of us. People who already have cars in the area are likely to tell you that its becoming increasingly difficult to find parking as it is, and those of us without cars, the majority, have enough trouble crossing the street without the percentage of vehicles increasing. There is NO good aspect of new construction that does not include parking. In my view the exclusion of parking spaces in new construction is ONLY a reflection of the developers wish to maximize profitability and all development from this point on should include parking within the developments proposed, it should be a mandatory requirement and be non-negotiable.

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I cant understand how some people can halt the development on a project like this that is actually in relative scale with the neighborhood as opposed to every other project in JSQ that is a 60 story tower next to a 2 story house. This would benefit the streetscape in my opinion, but its not my call I guess.


What's so hard to understand? The proposed building did not include ANY parking. That's unacceptable in Jersey City, where people need cars.


You don't need to have a car in Jersey City. If you choose to have one, you can pay for a spot in one of the many parking lots all throughout the city.

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I'm not sure I see your point, exart. This block of Perrine is just as walkable as most of Downtown, and more walkable than McGinley Square, as several others already pointed out. We're talking about a spot 5 minutes' walk from the Journal Square PATH stop. I live a couple of blocks away from Perrine on Tuers, and I haven't owned a car for 5 years.


You might need a car where you live, but it sounds like it's a lot farther from the Bergen Ave retail corridor and the PATH station than Perrine Ave is. This place isn't a 15-minute walk from PATH, it's literally a 5-minute walk away. Why are you assuming your situation applies to all of JSQ, especially the areas closer to the PATH?

It's unrealistic to think that car owners would move into a building with no parking in a neighborhood where getting parking is such a hassle. If you own a car, why would you pay a premium to live so close to the PATH and in the middle of one of the biggest traffic and parking clusterf*cks in the city? Your building is another story, because it came with a parking garage, so of course most of the people who bought there brought cars. The truth is that this building will mostly attract carless people, or it'll fail to rent out (which would be the landlord's problem). From my own apartment searches in the area I can tell you that there's robust demand for apartments this close to the PATH from people who want to live car-free, so I don't think the landlord would have a problem.


Forcing developers to include parking screws over people who want to live car-free, because you're forced to pay for the cost of the parking spot in your rent whether you want it or not. Building a structured parking spot costs about $40,000 per spot, and you can bet that developers pass that on to the tenants.

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