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What happened to "Hire American". If enough lobby groups put pressure on Trump he'll cave in. I guess Americans have a problem with hotel work or seafood processing. I bet it's all those lazy millennials who think it's beneath them to work.


So much for Trump spotlighting American-made products and industries this week
From NYPOST -

White House can’t explain why Trump products aren’t ‘Made in America’
By Marisa Schultz and Bob Fredericks
July 17, 2017 | 7:51pm

http://nypost.com/2017/07/17/white-ho ... ts-arent-made-in-america/

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What happened to "Hire American". If enough lobby groups put pressure on Trump he'll cave in. I guess Americans have a problem with hotel work or seafood processing. I bet it's all those lazy millennials who think it's beneath them to work.

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The one thing that can be stated as fact: Al Gore at least had class.


that and he invented the internet.


LOL

... and he loves a good "rub and tug" from hotel masseuses. No matter how many times they said No!

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The one thing that can be stated as fact: Al Gore at least had class.


that and he invented the internet.

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During his first few months in office, Trump has murdered more civilians than Obama did over 8 years. LINK

Over 16 years ago, Al Gore was provided a dossier on W. This was presented to him as dirt, very similar to Trump Jr. Instead of taking the illegal action and colluding with, what could have been, a foreign enemy, Gore went to the FBI.

The one thing that can be stated as fact: Al Gore at least had class.

With the constant drip of information coming out about the meeting, there is obviously something there. The constant lying is very notable. First, there was no meeting. Then there was a meeting but nobody was there. Then there was a meeting and some others were there but the discussion was about adoption. Then there was a meeting, others were there but left early, the discussion was adoption... The whole thing stinks. Everyone knows it stinks.

Trump's presidency isn't legitimate. His team colluded with a foreign entity to interfere in the election. This isn't option, it's a fact.

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and you think all that negative press, is somehow unwarranted?

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Oh course he has a low approval rating. All he gets is negative press. People believe what they are forcefed. Congratulations

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Oh course he has a low approval rating. All he gets is negative press. People believe what they are forcefed. Congratulations


The oppression you are facing must be very difficult to deal with. /s

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Comrades, let's redouble efforts to defend dear leader!
Remember -
1. Blame Hillary
2. Blame Obama
3. Trump may have done X but liberal progressive democrat did Y so cancels out
4. Pivot, deflect, mention Breitbart story and pivot again

Don't read fake news poll published in NYPOST!

http://nypost.com/2017/07/16/trumps-a ... e-lowest-since-1975-poll/

Trump’s approval rating the lowest since 1975, poll says
By Mark Moore July 16, 2017 | 12:38pm | Updated




Comrade... very nice job of maintaining the socialist democrat mantra that says using the historical record to assess former democrat leaders and their records is foul play.

Remember we always have the racist or misogynistic card to double down when the truth hurts.

I am sure the moyenne bourgeoisie on this blog will not notice that you cited a presidential popularity (democrat&republican) poll that goes back only to 1975, end of Nixon years.

It is good they did not go back a decade earlier and include the polling numbers of the democrat President Johnson and his SE Asia War.



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Oh course he has a low approval rating. All he gets is negative press. People believe what they are forcefed. Congratulations

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Comrades, let's redouble efforts to defend dear leader!
Remember -
1. Blame Hillary
2. Blame Obama
3. Trump may have done X but liberal progressive democrat did Y so cancels out
4. Pivot, deflect, mention Breitbart story and pivot again

Don't read fake news poll published in NYPOST!

http://nypost.com/2017/07/16/trumps-a ... e-lowest-since-1975-poll/

Trump’s approval rating the lowest since 1975, poll says
By Mark Moore July 16, 2017 | 12:38pm | Updated

President Trump’s approval ratings have fallen during his first six months in the White House and is the lowest of any chief executive since Gerald Ford in 1975, according to a poll released on Sunday.

Only 36 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance, a 6 percent slide since his administration hit the 100-day mark in April, a Washington Post/ABC News poll showed. His disapproval rating hit 58 percent – an increase of 5 percentage points.

President Ford’s approval rating after six months was at 39 percent in February 1975.

Trump wasted little time on Sunday to take to Twitter and blast the poll for being inaccurate.

“?The ABC/Washington Post Poll, even though almost 40% is not bad at this time, was just about the most inaccurate poll around election time!?,” he wrote. ?

He was referring to the survey from last November that showed Hillary Clinton up by 49 percent to 46 percent.

Trump won the electoral college, but Clinton took the popular vote by a 48 percent to 46 percent margin.

Trump is bedeviled by the Russian investigation, including his son Donald Trump Jr.’s involvement, his relationship with President Vladimir Putin and his controversial encounters with world leaders during his overseas visits.

Asked about US leadership on the world stage under Trump, 48 percent said it has gotten “weaker,” 27 percent said it is “stronger” and 23 percent said it is the “same.”

Sixty-six percent of those surveyed said they don’t trust him to negotiate with world leaders or with Putin, who the US intelligence community said directed the hacking into the 2016 presidential election.

On that matter, 60 percent of Americans think Russia tried to influence the election – up from 56 percent in April – and 67 percent think Trump campaign members “intentionally” helped Russia meddle – down from 71 percent since April.

Sixty-three percent said it was “inappropriate” for Trump Jr., former campaign manager Paul Manafort and son-in-law Jared Kushner to meet with a Russian lawyer last June. Another 26 percent said it was “appropriate” and 10 percent had “no opinion.”

On Trump’s campaign pledge to repeal and replace ObamaCare, the poll shows 50 percent “prefer” former President Obama’s Affordable Care Act, 24 percent “prefer” the Republican plan and 17 percent opt for “neither/something else.”

Asked “what’s more important for the federal government to do” on health care, 63 percent said “provide coverage for low-income Americans,” and 27 percent said “cut taxes.”

The poll surveyed 1,0001 adults via cell phones and landlines between July 10-13. It has a 3.5 percentage point margin of error.

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Moreover, the Trump Justice Department, after dismissing former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, subsequently settled a case for Veselnitskaya's client very much in their favor. That settlement earlier this spring is now highly suspicious, given this week's revelations. In my personal opinion, it's the most suspicious act to date in the whole panoply of much-denounced Trump behaviors with regard to Russia, perhaps even moreso than the firing of James Comey.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dem ... an-lawyer/article/2628454

Thanks for pointing out more shady stuff from the Trumps! Maybe Trump Jr. didn't come out with nothing from that meeting. The Russian lawyer sure seems to have gotten a lot from it.



Funny me citing left leaning Rolling Stone and you citing right leaning Examiner. I guess somewhere in the middle is the truth.

Typically when federal attorneys are let go, the DOJ try to settle/close open cases during the transition. This was another one of those odd occurrences Taibbi refers to in this whole US/Russia story. The fine for settling this case was pocket change for the defendants but Congress should look into it..

In the original RS Browder Story, MT said the Russians were pissed off that Browder/US Govt were making a big deal out of them stealing $230 million. The Russians (Putin) were offended being connected to such a crime that only resulted in $230M disappearing.

My original point was that Term Limits would be a significant step forward in stopping this corruption. Is it also a coincidence that Oakland communist/organizer, ex-congressman Ron Dellums was hired by Russians to lobby for repeal? Free Money!

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Dumb? You are just ignorant. Podesta fell for spam and just gave up his email password. Keep believing there is no connection between the Russian meeting and the Russian dossier

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Moreover, the Trump Justice Department, after dismissing former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, subsequently settled a case for Veselnitskaya's client very much in their favor. That settlement earlier this spring is now highly suspicious, given this week's revelations. In my personal opinion, it's the most suspicious act to date in the whole panoply of much-denounced Trump behaviors with regard to Russia, perhaps even moreso than the firing of James Comey.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dem ... an-lawyer/article/2628454

Thanks for pointing out more shady stuff from the Trumps! Maybe Trump Jr. didn't come out with nothing from that meeting. The Russian lawyer sure seems to have gotten a lot from it.

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Interesting background piece by Matt Taibbi... His narrative puts together some disturbing facts about Washington DC Power and its relationship with "the Russians" and "the russians".

The whole thing really comes back to the Obama Administration... He was forced into signing a law he did not agree with (nor did many key republicans). His MO was always only enforce federal laws he agreed with and ignore the ones he didn't. So he reluctantly signs this law and then goes to work in the background supporting the lobbying efforts for repeal.

Hence the shady Russian Woman Lawyer getting that special treatment from DoS... and the photo op of her front row at a senate hearing behind the US Ambassador to Russia.

They needed Trump (on the remote chance he would win the election) because they already had HRC. If Trump had also added Term Limits on his 3 plank platform, Taxes, Illegal Immigration and draining the swamp, he would have had a landslide victory.

"On the other hand, Trump himself came out strongly in favor of the Magnitsky law earlier this year, a piece of news that was then and remains now a weird fit with the collusion narrative. Overturning the Magnitsky Act is probably at or near the top of the list of Russian foreign policy objectives vis a vis the United States. "

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ ... fair-linked-again-w492290

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You have to be really dumb to think this was a simple hack. Podesta was targeted, do you know of any other person out there whose emails was outed by Russians directed by Putin? And as I've already stated, Podesta wasn't the only one hacked by the Russians. It's really quite amazing how Trumptards keep blaming victims in their efforts to deflect from all the lies and coverups committed by the Trumps. Don't worry, because no matter what you do the Trumps will continue to keep doing stupid stuff.

Reading comprehension? Maybe you should choose to think before you type nonsense like this: "Podesta turning over his password to the Russians"

And as it turns out, it wasn't even Podesta's fault.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecuri ... caused-podesta-email-hack

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Reading comprehension is very important. Where did I say Podesta tried to sink his own candidate?
Podesta was hacked. He fell for a trap a 12 yr old wouldn't. As far as collusion we may find out Obama and Hillary had Russian contact before this is over. We already know the group who fabricated the dossier and facilitated the meeting are connected

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All this talk of Podesta is self serving nonsense. According tot he FBI, the Republicans were also hacked by the Russians but they obviously picked a side. You have to be the dumbest person on earth if you think Podesta colluded with the Russians to destroy his candidate. I mean seriously, where the hell do you get your information? Trump Jr? You do know the hacked emails were from a Google account, right? Try using simple passwords and see what happens.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture


135jc wrote: blah blah blah nothing burger.


Really? A nothing burger? Podesta turning over his password to the Russians did nothing in you opinion? Good. I'm glad you cleared that up for us.


Nope, not what I am saying. There's a lot of shady sh*t going on with the CURRENT administration and that's your response to all of it.

And no I'm not for giving anyone a free pass.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture


135jc wrote: blah blah blah nothing burger.


Really? A nothing burger? Podesta turning over his password to the Russians did nothing in you opinion? Good. I'm glad you cleared that up for us.

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135jc wrote: blah blah blah nothing burger.

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Oh, and sure, Hillary probably would have lost anyway and that's the irony. Trump F'd up Big Time.

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BIG differences. A low level operative who, as a side project, exposed Manafort's slime-balling. Trump's top people met with Russians and encouraged hacking and manufacturing of "evidence". You Trump fanboys have to just eat your "nothingurgers". The net is closing...Even the guys who wrote the Politico article know this.

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Trump fans shouldn't be talking about emails and incompetence for that matter.

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Hillary doesn't know how to work an email machine and Podesta replys to spam that a 12 yr old knows to ignore. You Libs complain about Trump im just glad these 2 incompetent's are out of the picture

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Sure, bring them all in. You can even have a double Chalupa. Bring in all the suspects, including the sitting President and Putin too. I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this once we have all the suspects.


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Here is the truth- Obama knew about Russia meddling but did nothing. And Podesta changed his password which allowed the meddling to happen. But no, let's continue to blame Trump or his family. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/politic ... ussia-election/index.html

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Ukraine and Russian interference are equivalent? Sure, then by all means lets bring up Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and this Chalupa lady on charges of collusion. Seems like a fair deal to me!


Yes and we can bring up Obama, Clinton/Kerry, Nuland, the US ambassador to Ukraine on criminal charges too... if you read the article you would see the DoS spox claim (lie) that the actual leaked voice recording of the conspirators was fabricated by the Russians. Boy, that sounds familiar?

DSoS Nuland went on official record apologizing to the EU after she told the EU to F'off when they figuring were who would run the Ukraine after they toppled the government,

Please show me an email or voice recording by the Russians encouraging Trump Supporters / Republicans to violently take over the US Capital and other Federal building in Washington DC.

People died during the US inspired coup in the Ukraine.... I am not aware of anyone dying as a direct consequence of the US election results, though I am sure HRC had murder on her mind election night in the hotel suite.

Let's not forget Podesta, Lynch Wasserman Brazile and Zook

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Ukraine and Russian interference are equivalent? Sure, then by all means lets bring up Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and this Chalupa lady on charges of collusion. Seems like a fair deal to me!


Yes and we can bring up Obama, Clinton/Kerry, Nuland, the US ambassador to Ukraine on criminal charges too... if you read the article you would see the DoS spox claim (lie) that the actual leaked voice recording of the conspirators was fabricated by the Russians. Boy, that sounds familiar?

DSoS Nuland went on official record apologizing to the EU after she told the EU to F'off when they figuring were who would run the Ukraine after they toppled the government,

Please show me an email or voice recording by the Russians encouraging Trump Supporters / Republicans to violently take over the US Capital and other Federal building in Washington DC.

People died during the US inspired coup in the Ukraine.... I am not aware of anyone dying as a direct consequence of the US election results, though I am sure HRC had murder on her mind election night in the hotel suite.

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Ukraine and Russian interference are equivalent? Sure, then by all means lets bring up Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner and this Chalupa lady on charges of collusion. Seems like a fair deal to me!

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I'll have a small beer and a nothing burger.

Seriously,
How could the Ukraine issue be any smaller then Jrs Russian meeting in which nothing was discussed?

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