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On north end of downtown platform (back of the train) go down the stairs as if going to the uptown train, walk towards uptown platform, look around for the station turnstiles and you see sign for WTC/PATH - follow that and you should find the exit to the long corridor to Occulus.


Found it, thanks! I never would have found it without those instructions, and still, it wasn't so easy.

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Embarrassing question. I recently began taking the WTC PATH to the 4/5 train. I can't seem to find the underground passage from the downtown subway to the Oculus. I don't have an issue the other way, from the PATH to the 4/5 train. I never see any workers around to ask. Help!


On north end of downtown platform (back of the train) go down the stairs as if going to the uptown train, walk towards uptown platform, look around for the station turnstiles and you see sign for WTC/PATH - follow that and you should find the exit to the long corridor to Occulus.

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Embarrassing question. I recently began taking the WTC PATH to the 4/5 train. I can't seem to find the underground passage from the downtown subway to the Oculus. I don't have an issue the other way, from the PATH to the 4/5 train. I never see any workers around to ask. Help!


I have yet to find the way out of that Escher drawing. have given up trying, and just go right to street level and find my way to the PATH overground.

another odd PATH/subway connection: the A/C.
signs in the occulus point commuters towards the Fulton Street stop, which takes forever to find and involves numerous staircases. on the other hand, following signs to the E train puts you a short easy underground walk from the Chambers Street A/C.

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Don't be embarrassed. I have heard the same thing from other people. Something about the layout seems to throw off most people's sense of direction. I am able to make my way to/from but, off the top of my head, I can't come up with good, clear directions. I guess I will have to pay closer attention next time I am at Fulton. I do seem to recall some PATH "signs" being added recently to help with this problem. You know, the typical MTA signs that have a name and a "general direction" arrow.


Whew, I thought it was only me. There are signs for the PATH but I wind up outside on Fulton St., at least the signs I've followed. It's not a big deal but it would be nice not to have to go outside in inclement weather. I suppose I can figure it out by going to the downtown side of the subway from the WTC and trace my steps from there.


Just a few weeks ago I heard from two different people that instead of getting off at Fulton they ride the subway to Chambers, as they always get lost when trying to navigate from Fulton. So, definitely not just you.

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Don't be embarrassed. I have heard the same thing from other people. Something about the layout seems to throw off most people's sense of direction. I am able to make my way to/from but, off the top of my head, I can't come up with good, clear directions. I guess I will have to pay closer attention next time I am at Fulton. I do seem to recall some PATH "signs" being added recently to help with this problem. You know, the typical MTA signs that have a name and a "general direction" arrow.


Whew, I thought it was only me. There are signs for the PATH but I wind up outside on Fulton St., at least the signs I've followed. It's not a big deal but it would be nice not to have to go outside in inclement weather. I suppose I can figure it out by going to the downtown side of the subway from the WTC and trace my steps from there.

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Embarrassing question. I recently began taking the WTC PATH to the 4/5 train. I can't seem to find the underground passage from the downtown subway to the Oculus. I don't have an issue the other way, from the PATH to the 4/5 train. I never see any workers around to ask. Help!


Don't be embarrassed. I have heard the same thing from other people. Something about the layout seems to throw off most people's sense of direction. I am able to make my way to/from but, off the top of my head, I can't come up with good, clear directions. I guess I will have to pay closer attention next time I am at Fulton. I do seem to recall some PATH "signs" being added recently to help with this problem. You know, the typical MTA signs that have a name and a "general direction" arrow.

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Embarrassing question. I recently began taking the WTC PATH to the 4/5 train. I can't seem to find the underground passage from the downtown subway to the Oculus. I don't have an issue the other way, from the PATH to the 4/5 train. I never see any workers around to ask. Help!

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What a shock that perhaps the most corrupt and least accountable organization in the country continues to produce such stellar results.


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By Danielle Furfaro and Stephanie Pagones
May 29, 2017 | 4:43pm

The Oculus is still leaking.

The rain this past week caused puddles and slick floors near the balconies and elevators on both sides of Ground Zero’s $4 billion transit hub, and, at this point, the problem is considered chronic.

“There are leaks on this side and that side, those two balconies, by the elevators, and then the back also. It’s a mess,” said one maintenance worker. “We soak it up and drain it. It’s a lot of work. It’s nonstop.”

Earlier this month, Port Authority officials put the blame for the leak on a nearby construction project and promised to fix it. On Friday, the agency issued an astonishing statement denying that the Oculus is still leaking.

“There were no leaks in the Oculus this week,” spokesman Steve Coleman said, even though a Post reporter saw the leaks firsthand. The water often leaves the marble floor feeling more like an impromptu ice skating rink, making it dangerous for visitors.

“People do have accidents. Like the last rainy day, somebody almost broke their neck here on the marble,” said the maintenance worker. The woman was walking down the stairs when she slid on a puddle, he said. “They slipped and they really hurt themselves because, you know, these are marble floors.”

Workers at the site say the construction of the ambitious building was a rush job that left many loose ends. Even thought the Oculus opened in August, construction workers are still putting the finishing touches on it because there was so much left undone, they said.

“Everything is not done so you’ve have to come back and do it,” said construction worker Shawn Cumberbatch, 41, who was caulking a seam in the main room that had been left unsealed for months. “They just wasted a lot of cash over here. This should have been done. If they just took their time and got it right the first time, we wouldn’t have this problem.”

The Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH terminal, which also houses several luxury retailers, opened in March 2016 — seven years behind schedule and $2 billion over budget. The mall portion of the building opened in August.

Not only is the building still suffering from leaks and holes, but the design of the building makes the interior weather very uncomfortable, say retail workers who have to spend all day on the floor.

“They didn’t put much thought into the construction itself. It’s half-assed,” said Stephany Rivera, 23, an assistant manager at children’s clothing and toy store Kingkow. “It’s frustrating. It’s heat. You feel heat in here, you feel nothing out there. You expected this place to be cool with so many vents like that, but nothing. There’s just no wind. You just feet hot.”

Even the new escalators are also already perpetually breaking, say workers.

“The escalators constantly mess up,” said the maintenance man. “Sometimes they just get stuck.”

http://nypost.com/2017/05/29/oculus-i ... authority-saying-it-isnt/

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How can it be a "rush job" when they went over their timeline and also budget? I hope they have enough PATH employees to lay out the mats and dry up the floors when it rains. Pathetic!

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By Danielle Furfaro and Stephanie Pagones
May 29, 2017 | 4:43pm

The Oculus is still leaking.

The rain this past week caused puddles and slick floors near the balconies and elevators on both sides of Ground Zero’s $4 billion transit hub, and, at this point, the problem is considered chronic.

“There are leaks on this side and that side, those two balconies, by the elevators, and then the back also. It’s a mess,” said one maintenance worker. “We soak it up and drain it. It’s a lot of work. It’s nonstop.”

Earlier this month, Port Authority officials put the blame for the leak on a nearby construction project and promised to fix it. On Friday, the agency issued an astonishing statement denying that the Oculus is still leaking.

“There were no leaks in the Oculus this week,” spokesman Steve Coleman said, even though a Post reporter saw the leaks firsthand. The water often leaves the marble floor feeling more like an impromptu ice skating rink, making it dangerous for visitors.

“People do have accidents. Like the last rainy day, somebody almost broke their neck here on the marble,” said the maintenance worker. The woman was walking down the stairs when she slid on a puddle, he said. “They slipped and they really hurt themselves because, you know, these are marble floors.”

Workers at the site say the construction of the ambitious building was a rush job that left many loose ends. Even thought the Oculus opened in August, construction workers are still putting the finishing touches on it because there was so much left undone, they said.

“Everything is not done so you’ve have to come back and do it,” said construction worker Shawn Cumberbatch, 41, who was caulking a seam in the main room that had been left unsealed for months. “They just wasted a lot of cash over here. This should have been done. If they just took their time and got it right the first time, we wouldn’t have this problem.”

The Santiago Calatrava-designed PATH terminal, which also houses several luxury retailers, opened in March 2016 — seven years behind schedule and $2 billion over budget. The mall portion of the building opened in August.

Not only is the building still suffering from leaks and holes, but the design of the building makes the interior weather very uncomfortable, say retail workers who have to spend all day on the floor.

“They didn’t put much thought into the construction itself. It’s half-assed,” said Stephany Rivera, 23, an assistant manager at children’s clothing and toy store Kingkow. “It’s frustrating. It’s heat. You feel heat in here, you feel nothing out there. You expected this place to be cool with so many vents like that, but nothing. There’s just no wind. You just feet hot.”

Even the new escalators are also already perpetually breaking, say workers.

“The escalators constantly mess up,” said the maintenance man. “Sometimes they just get stuck.”

http://nypost.com/2017/05/29/oculus-i ... authority-saying-it-isnt/

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the ongoing maintenance of some of his projects have surpassed all expectations, ensuring headaches and unbudgeted expenses for years or generations to come.


No problem at all for the PA, they'll just raise the PATH and tolls like they always do. They're impervious to the public.


You are, of course, correct. It is hard to imagine or fathom a more "undemocratic" institution: they can (essentially) levy a tax on a large population of citizens without having to answer for their actions or decisions. I'm actually more than a little surprised that the PA has gotten this far in its current form.

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the ongoing maintenance of some of his projects have surpassed all expectations, ensuring headaches and unbudgeted expenses for years or generations to come.


No problem at all for the PA, they'll just raise the PATH and tolls like they always do. They're impervious to the public.

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So when I head into the office on Monday, maybe I will see the Oculus draped with a giant blue tarp...


The PA will soon learn why Calatrava is being sued by so many entities that have implemented his designs.


If the PA had even minimum competence, they never would have hired him to begin with.


Agreed! But, sadly, that ship has sailed. There was some serious failure at due diligence in hiring him. By the time he was hired for this project, a lot of noise was already being generated by those stuck dealing with the shortcomings of his designs. Even in his native Spain, there are a bunch of really upset entities going to court to sue over projects that failed to meet deadlines and budgets because of unnecessary complexities in his designs, and the ongoing maintenance of some of his projects have surpassed all expectations, ensuring headaches and unbudgeted expenses for years or generations to come.

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The PA will soon learn why Calatrava is being sued by so many entities that have implemented his designs.


If the PA had even minimum competence, they never would have hired him to begin with.

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The PA will soon learn why Calatrava is being sued by so many entities that have implemented his designs.

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So when I head into the office on Monday, maybe I will see the Oculus draped with a giant blue tarp...


White marble is going to be very slippery when wet too..

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PATH to 33rd still shutdown. My wife is trying to find another way home via by bus or van. NJ Transit is cross honoring.. but I suspect the buses will be mobbed..



Should probably hang out in a bar or something, otherwise take an uber.


She's Ubering it.. the line looks like something out of a refugee queue of people escaping the zombie apocalypse.

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PATH to 33rd still shutdown. My wife is trying to find another way home via by bus or van. NJ Transit is cross honoring.. but I suspect the buses will be mobbed..


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World Trade Center’s $4 billion Oculus springs leak as water drips on commuters' heads

Friday, May 5, 2017, 3:19 PM

It seems $4 billion isn’t enough for a good roof.

The World Trade Center’s Oculus transit hub sprung a leak during Friday’s drenching rain storm.

Photos posted on social media show pools of water on the white marble floor of the $4 billion transportation center and shopping mall.

The leak sent streams of commuters rushing toward the exits.

The Port Authority, which controls the transit hub, did not immediately return a request for comment.

The bird-like structure, designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava, opened in March 2016 after years of delays and cost overruns.

The transportation hub was initially slated to cost $2 billion.


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/w ... mmuters-article-1.3140183

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With all the growth in this area, I am really not sure why they are not building more infrastructure to support it. I wish the city would think ahead and use budget wisely! Public transportation is crucial for all of us, especially as JC continues to grow.


The people who sign off on new developments (JC) are entirely different from the people in charge of public transport infrastructure (Port Authority and New Jersey Transit).

Both groups only seem concerned with the short term, and don't appear to care about the other. The Path will probably be nightmarishly overcrowded once all the JSQ developments are completed. Though, in fairness, NYC appears to be run in a similar way.

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With all the growth in this area, I am really not sure why they are not building more infrastructure to support it. I wish the city would think ahead and use budget wisely! Public transportation is crucial for all of us, especially as JC continues to grow.


Expense: rail alone costs $billions. Look at the estimated cost just to extend the PATH to EWR over an existing right of way. Then the system has to be subsidized since fares won't cover the operation expenses.


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With all the growth in this area, I am really not sure why they are not building more infrastructure to support it. I wish the city would think ahead and use budget wisely! Public transportation is crucial for all of us, especially as JC continues to grow.

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How about safety measures to prevent train derailment?

That's the main thing on mind, with nj transit and Amtrak , only a matter of time before it happens to path trains too


Meh, I don't care - statistically, the trains are much safer than driving.

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Lengthening station platforms is great,
How about safety measures to prevent train derailment?

That's the main thing on mind, with nj transit and Amtrak , only a matter of time before it happens to path trains too

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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


I don’t mind standing, but unlike the laborers and service workers I ride with, I sit on my cracker-butt most of the day and get paid more for it.

So you get paid more huh. Do you normally reveal your salary to strangers on the train ? And what makes you think they make less than you ? You'd be surprised at what people make based on their looks.


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Also, this will not be popular but I would be in favor of removing seats from the subway cars. Not an ideal situation but I'd rather stand on the PATH than wait on the platform. (You could still keep a few priority seats available for the truly disabled).

Strap hangers across the entire car would help too.


I don’t mind standing, but unlike the laborers and service workers I ride with, I sit on my cracker-butt most of the day and get paid more for it.

So you get paid more huh. Do you normally reveal your salary to strangers on the train ? And what makes you think they make less than you ? You'd be surprised at what people make based on their looks.

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