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4 Jersey City cops suspended, 2 deputy chiefs reassigned over pursuit conduct

Updated on June 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM
Posted on June 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM

BY CAITLIN MOTA
The Jersey Journal


JERSEY CITY - Four Jersey City police officers were suspended without pay and two deputy chiefs reassigned following the high-speed pursuit on June 4 that ended in a fiery crash, critically injuring an innocent bystander.

Mayor Steve Fulop and Public Safety Director James Shea said during a City Hall press conference today that the suspensions are related to violations of policies on police pursuits and not to the actions seen in a video of the aftermath of the crash, which show officers kicking the bystander. Those actions are the focus of an investigation by the Hudson County Prosecutor's Offices, Fulop and Shea said today.

"This is the first step for all the officers involved to be held accountable for their actions," said Fulop, reading from a prepared statement.

Fulop and Shea said a preliminary internal investigation provided "multiple indications of our officers and supervisors acting outside of the guidelines and training."

The two local police unions have sharply criticized Fulop for announcing that he wants the officers who are seen on the video terminated and criminally charged. Robert Kearns, president of the Jersey City Police Superior Officers Association, said in a statement the union is "disappointed" in the mayor for not giving the officers "an opportunity for due process."

"We are confident that a thorough investigation will provide a clearer picture of the actions for the officers involved where they are allowed an opportunity to defend the same," Kearns said. "In the meantime, we have contacted our attorney to review the issue and take all appropriate actions. We will continue to discuss the situation with the administration as the investigation progresses and we will aggressively defend our members' rights going forward."

The four officers are Lt. Keith Ludwig, MD Kahn, Erik Kosinski and Francisco Rodriguez. Ludwig, who was promoted from sergeant on May 31, is a 24-year veteran of the department. Ludwig, Shea said today, has "an excellent record." The other three officers are recent additions to the force, joining between 2013 and 2015.

Ludwig was the supervisor responsible for overseeing the entire pursuit, Khan and Kosinski set up an unauthorized roadblock during the pursuit and Rodriguez fired at a moving vehicle, city officials said today. All are violations of state attorney general guidelines on police pursuits.

The three officers are recent additions to the force, joining between 2013 and 2015. Ludwig makes $137,172, Kahn and Kosinski each make $61,000 and Rodriguez makes $46,800, according to payroll records.

The two deputy chiefs being reassigned are Mark Hussey, chief of patrol, and John Corry Short, chief of investigations. Both have been on the force since 1979 and have both been reassigned to city command, which oversees the day-to-day operations of the department in the absence of the chief.

Fulop and Shea said Ludwig can be seen in the video but would not say if he is one of the officers seen kicking the innocent bystander.

The pursuit began just before 11 p.m. on Sunday, June 4 near Ocean and Cator avenues. Shea said the department's street crimes unit attempted to stop a car driven by Leo Pinkston, 48, because it matched the description of a vehicle wanted for a shooting a few days earlier. Pinkston refused to stop and the pursuit from Greenville ended in a crash on Tonnelle Avenue in the Heights.

Shots were fired at Pinkston's car on Tonnelle Avenue at the Manhattan and Carlton avenue intersections. At least two officers fired their guns, Shea said, confirming the 48-year-old was shot in the leg during the gunfire.

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Miguel Feliz, 28, of West New York, was severely burned in the crash and remains hospitalized at the St. Barnabas Burn Center in Livingston. It is Feliz seen being kicked by officers in the video.

In a statement from today, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez said her investigation is "ongoing and results are pending."

Last week, Suarez asked for the public not to rush to judgement on the video. Fulop, however, said the suspensions and departmental charges are warranted based on their internal investigation.

"We are basing our decisions today based on actions that we know are in clear violation of the guidelines," the mayor said, adding that infractions of police pursuit policies "are entirely in our jurisdiction."

City officials said about 20 officers were involved in the crash that lasted more than six minutes. Fulop said the actions of all officers involved are being looked at and others may be suspended as more information becomes available.

Journal staff writer Terrence T. McDonald contributed to this report.

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"Bruh, pick your battles. There's a guy on fire, and a cop runs over and kicks him in the face.
This just cost our city millions of dollars

True. Unless the cop claims a leg injury from the kick. In which case he will sue the state for workman's comp.

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pretty sure the strategy for putting out a fire is to smother it. Not sure a boot to the head or body qualifies as smothering.

The excuses coming from the union are certainly imaginative...

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Retard, you only get to see a clip that shows one view of the situation and might not actually reflect what was going on. At my previous job, I had to train on using force to subdue a suspect. And we were specifically warned about how perspective (like a grainy clip) could be used against you even though you followed proper procedures.
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So kicking unarmed BURNING accident victims in the face is the swell politically correct thing to do, right greenville ?

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Wait for the facts to really come out before jumping to conclussions idiots. Because of the circumstances of the event we have to verify things.

IGreg, you're a prick who thinks he knows it all but is just as retarted as the rest of the political ideology hacks. You jump to conclussions just as fast as the equally retarded liberals you as rag on. Retards like you are the idiots who think electing morons from a different party is the solution to everything, even though reality always never seems to match your dreams.


Bruh, pick your battles. There's a guy on fire, and a cop runs over and kicks him in the face.
This just cost our city millions of dollars.

Think of what the punishment would be if your or I kicked an officer, on fire, in the face.
Now apply that to the officer and you will have arrived at justice.

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Retard, you only get to see a clip that shows one view of the situation and might not actually reflect what was going on. At my previous job, I had to train on using force to subdue a suspect. And we were specifically warned about how perspective (like a grainy clip) could be used against you even though you followed proper procedures.
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So kicking unarmed BURNING accident victims in the face is the swell politically correct thing to do, right greenville ?

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Wait for the facts to really come out before jumping to conclussions idiots. Because of the circumstances of the event we have to verify things.

IGreg, you're a prick who thinks he knows it all but is just as retarted as the rest of the political ideology hacks. You jump to conclussions just as fast as the equally retarded liberals you as rag on. Retards like you are the idiots who think electing morons from a different party is the solution to everything, even though reality always never seems to match your dreams.

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Series of bad decisions led to fiery crash, Jersey City mayor says

Updated on June 8, 2017 at 4:33 PM
Posted on June 8, 2017 at 2:04 PM

BY TERRENCE T. MCDONALD
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The Jersey Journal

JERSEY CITY -- About two dozen new recruits joined the Jersey City police force today as the department faces intense criticism over a video that shows cops kicking a man prosecutors call an innocent bystander to a police pursuit on Sunday night.

Mayor Steve Fulop, who yesterday stunned even those close to him by announcing he would seek to fire and arrest the officers seen in the video, told reporters today the cops' actions were the culmination of a series of bad decisions. He described the video as "outrageous."

Police "had a six-mile chase throughout Jersey City -- there's protocols on that," Fulop said. "They fired their weapons from their car at another moving vehicle. There are issues with that. There are issues with how they continued the chase after additional information (was released) ... it's one after the other."

This is the first time anyone has said officers fired from inside a car. The county prosecutor has said only that cops fired "multiple shots" at the vehicle they were pursuing.

The mayor spoke today at a hastily organized press conference moments before the 25 recruits were sworn in. He faced reporters on the second floor of City Hall, in front of a desk once used by Frank Hague.

The video at the center of the controversy shows the aftermath of a fiery crash that ended the police chase, which began late Sunday night in Greenville and ended with the crash near the North Bergen border. Authorities say the man seen in the video was not 48-year-old Leo Pinkston, the driver of the car police were pursuing, but an innocent man whose car was struck when Pinskton crashed into a utility pole.

The crash has pitted the administration against its police force, with cops saying they see the officers in the video attempting to extinguish the fire that had engulfed the innocent man. The local police officers union has made similar comments, and is blasting Fulop for saying yesterday that he wants cops criminally charged.

"Mayor Fulop speaks about protocols, but forgets that there are protocols in place to investigate incidents such as this one," Carmine Disbrow, president of the Jersey City Police Officers Benevolent Association, said in a statement. "We stand by our assertion that all matters related to Sunday's events should be thoroughly reviewed, but it is grossly inappropriate for Fulop to cast judgment without knowing all of the facts."

Councilman Rich Boggiano, a retired police detective, echoed the union's thoughts.

"No one -- but no one -- should ever make a statement until they know the facts ... remember Maryland," he said, referring to Baltimore's 2015 decision to prosecute six officers over the death of Freddie Gray (after three acquittals, all the charges against those officers were dropped.)

Fulop dismissed claims that the officers were helping the victim.

"A reasonable person that looks at that video would say that those do not look like helping hands," Fulop said.

The incident is the latest black eye for the Jersey City police force. Last week a now-suspended police lieutenant, Ray Mahan, made his first court appearance on charges he caused a car collision in March while speeding through a red light in a police car he shouldn't have been driving. And the department has for years been the target of a federal investigation into off-duty work that city officials believe will result in multiple arrests.

In his remarks today, Fulop called these cases "isolated" incidents that do not indicate anything troubling about the department or its leadership.

"You could pick isolated cases throughout the year of officers acting irresponsibly," he said. "You're going to have an officer and city employees making mistakes and doing the wrong things ... the police department is making tremendous progress."

The city is seeking to hire its third police chief of Fulop's four-year tenure (the mayor demoted the first and the second retired last week).

Public Safety Director James Shea has been overseas on a vacation and is expected to return tomorrow. Fulop said he has been in contact with Shea multiple times daily about Sunday's incident and the two men decided jointly that the officers involved in kicking the innocent man should be identified, terminated and face criminal charges.

The officers seen in the video have yet to be identified, Fulop said today. There was a mixture of rookies and veterans on the scene Sunday night, the mayor said.

The victim remains hospitalized and is in stable condition, according to prosecutors. A spokesman for Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez, who is handling the investigation of Sunday's incident, declined to comment on Fulop's comments today.

Council President Rolando Lavarro told The Jersey Journal today that the video is "atrocious."

"It's terrible," Lavarro said. "I don't want to jump to conclusions here but the video speaks for itself."

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great. these cops need to be fired and charged with assault.

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Series of bad decisions led to fiery crash, Jersey City mayor says

Updated on June 8, 2017 at 4:33 PM
Posted on June 8, 2017 at 2:04 PM

BY TERRENCE T. MCDONALD
tmcdonald@jjournal.com
The Jersey Journal

JERSEY CITY -- About two dozen new recruits joined the Jersey City police force today as the department faces intense criticism over a video that shows cops kicking a man prosecutors call an innocent bystander to a police pursuit on Sunday night.

Mayor Steve Fulop, who yesterday stunned even those close to him by announcing he would seek to fire and arrest the officers seen in the video, told reporters today the cops' actions were the culmination of a series of bad decisions. He described the video as "outrageous."

Police "had a six-mile chase throughout Jersey City -- there's protocols on that," Fulop said. "They fired their weapons from their car at another moving vehicle. There are issues with that. There are issues with how they continued the chase after additional information (was released) ... it's one after the other."

This is the first time anyone has said officers fired from inside a car. The county prosecutor has said only that cops fired "multiple shots" at the vehicle they were pursuing.

The mayor spoke today at a hastily organized press conference moments before the 25 recruits were sworn in. He faced reporters on the second floor of City Hall, in front of a desk once used by Frank Hague.

The video at the center of the controversy shows the aftermath of a fiery crash that ended the police chase, which began late Sunday night in Greenville and ended with the crash near the North Bergen border. Authorities say the man seen in the video was not 48-year-old Leo Pinkston, the driver of the car police were pursuing, but an innocent man whose car was struck when Pinskton crashed into a utility pole.

The crash has pitted the administration against its police force, with cops saying they see the officers in the video attempting to extinguish the fire that had engulfed the innocent man. The local police officers union has made similar comments, and is blasting Fulop for saying yesterday that he wants cops criminally charged.

"Mayor Fulop speaks about protocols, but forgets that there are protocols in place to investigate incidents such as this one," Carmine Disbrow, president of the Jersey City Police Officers Benevolent Association, said in a statement. "We stand by our assertion that all matters related to Sunday's events should be thoroughly reviewed, but it is grossly inappropriate for Fulop to cast judgment without knowing all of the facts."

Councilman Rich Boggiano, a retired police detective, echoed the union's thoughts.

"No one -- but no one -- should ever make a statement until they know the facts ... remember Maryland," he said, referring to Baltimore's 2015 decision to prosecute six officers over the death of Freddie Gray (after three acquittals, all the charges against those officers were dropped.)

Fulop dismissed claims that the officers were helping the victim.

"A reasonable person that looks at that video would say that those do not look like helping hands," Fulop said.

The incident is the latest black eye for the Jersey City police force. Last week a now-suspended police lieutenant, Ray Mahan, made his first court appearance on charges he caused a car collision in March while speeding through a red light in a police car he shouldn't have been driving. And the department has for years been the target of a federal investigation into off-duty work that city officials believe will result in multiple arrests.

In his remarks today, Fulop called these cases "isolated" incidents that do not indicate anything troubling about the department or its leadership.

"You could pick isolated cases throughout the year of officers acting irresponsibly," he said. "You're going to have an officer and city employees making mistakes and doing the wrong things ... the police department is making tremendous progress."

The city is seeking to hire its third police chief of Fulop's four-year tenure (the mayor demoted the first and the second retired last week).

Public Safety Director James Shea has been overseas on a vacation and is expected to return tomorrow. Fulop said he has been in contact with Shea multiple times daily about Sunday's incident and the two men decided jointly that the officers involved in kicking the innocent man should be identified, terminated and face criminal charges.

The officers seen in the video have yet to be identified, Fulop said today. There was a mixture of rookies and veterans on the scene Sunday night, the mayor said.

The victim remains hospitalized and is in stable condition, according to prosecutors. A spokesman for Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez, who is handling the investigation of Sunday's incident, declined to comment on Fulop's comments today.

Council President Rolando Lavarro told The Jersey Journal today that the video is "atrocious."

"It's terrible," Lavarro said. "I don't want to jump to conclusions here but the video speaks for itself."

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... rash_in_jer.html#comments

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I'm curious to what other people are seeing in this video. Did they kick the burn victim (my prayers to him - how awful!) or were they stamping out flames?



It looks like one or more of the hacks Fulop hired in his push to put under qualified minorities on the force will be getting the hammer.

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So you can tell from that video that those officers are minorities?


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I'd say the first guy got 2 kicks in, but it looks like the rest are trying to stamp out the fire, and then they drag him away from the burning car.

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So kicking unarmed BURNING accident victims in the face is the swell politically correct thing to do, right greenville ?

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Wait for the facts to really come out before jumping to conclussions idiots. Because of the circumstances of the event we have to verify things.

IGreg, you're a prick who thinks he knows it all but is just as retarted as the rest of the political ideology hacks. You jump to conclussions just as fast as the equally retarded liberals you as rag on. Retards like you are the idiots who think electing morons from a different party is the solution to everything, even though reality always never seems to match your dreams.

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Wait for the facts to really come out before jumping to conclussions idiots. Because of the circumstances of the event we have to verify things.

IGreg, you're a prick who thinks he knows it all but is just as retarted as the rest of the political ideology hacks. You jump to conclussions just as fast as the equally retarded liberals you as rag on. Retards like you are the idiots who think electing morons from a different party is the solution to everything, even though reality always never seems to match your dreams.

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I'm curious to what other people are seeing in this video. Did they kick the burn victim (my prayers to him - how awful!) or were they stamping out flames? As for the dragging, I'm not sure if they were afraid the car was going to further explode or what their motivations were. Not defending anyone, I just don't know if the cops were acting over the top or just following SOP when they thought the injured guy was their suspect?


Stamping out a fire on a person?! Seems a bit odd to me jerseymom... No need to be curious, the answer is right there in that video. Think about it for a moment.... It's one of those situations where you ask: but why didn't the dog bark?

Surely police cruisers (especially the brand new SUV variety, with all the bells and whistles) carry fire extinguishers and those fire blankets used to smother flames? How many police vehicles and officers were there? Didn't somebody, anybody, think of using the standard issue safety equipment supplied for exactly these kinds of hazardous situations? Don't JC police have training and SOP's so they're ready and know how to deploy and use relatively simple safety measures that save lives....? Or were they really just kicking, oops, stamping, out of the fire, believing that was the thing to do...?

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I'm curious to what other people are seeing in this video. Did they kick the burn victim (my prayers to him - how awful!) or were they stamping out flames? As for the dragging, I'm not sure if they were afraid the car was going to further explode or what their motivations were. Not defending anyone, I just don't know if the cops were acting over the top or just following SOP when they thought the injured guy was their suspect?


First couple kicks weren't to stomp out any flames. The first kick you can clearly see force was behind it and was used to put him down. You can see how his body reacts to the first two kicks. Towards the end it does look like after trying to hurt him a few light stomps were used to put out any flames that might of been left before dragging him across the concrete.

I can just imagine how much pain that guy was in to get kicked and dragged after being in a car accident and having his skin burned.

Also heard the reason for the shooting was police set up a road block of the path of the driver during the chase. Something they aren't supposed to do. That is what must have led up to the shooting and not the first explanation that the driver tried to go in between two lanes of traffic. They left out the part they were blocking the road. I guess we are going to have to wait and see what info comes out next and how much truth is behind that.

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I'm curious to what other people are seeing in this video. Did they kick the burn victim (my prayers to him - how awful!) or were they stamping out flames?



It looks like one or more of the hacks Fulop hired in his push to put under qualified minorities on the force will be getting the hammer.

#Get the memo

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I'm curious to what other people are seeing in this video. Did they kick the burn victim (my prayers to him - how awful!) or were they stamping out flames? As for the dragging, I'm not sure if they were afraid the car was going to further explode or what their motivations were. Not defending anyone, I just don't know if the cops were acting over the top or just following SOP when they thought the injured guy was their suspect?

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I will make a couple of comments regarding the Sunday Night Pursuit from my pov.

I was right in saying the new police cruisers took part in the pursuit. I did not know there was police chase. Almost every available units responded.

I'm reserving my opinion on how all these cruisers drove to the scene. But I will add the traffic lights on the stretch of Kennedy from 139 to the accident scenes is red light-green light-red light.




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Jersey City cop cars at center of tug of war after police pursuit

BY TERRENCE T. MCDONALD tmcdonald@jjournal.com
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JERSEY CITY -- The day after a six-mile police pursuit ended in a fiery crash on Tonnelle Avenue, the city demanded the police precincts involved return the brand-new police SUVs issued to them last week, The Jersey Journal has learned.

The action, which law-enforcement sources say was ordered by Public Safety Director James Shea, resulted in a public rebuke from the local police officers union. Forcing the return of the SUVs -- 12 in total -- affects minimum manpower requirements by leaving some officers without cars to drive, the sources said.

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too bad he didnt burn to death along with anyone else in the car.


The person burned in the car was an innocent bystander:
RLS Media - Innocent Bystander Suffers Serious Burns


Robot is a f*cking idiot.

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Man charged in fiery crash that critically injured innocent driver

Updated on June 5, 2017 at 5:56 PM
Posted on June 5, 2017 at 2:59 PM

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JERSEY CITY - Authorities have arrested the driver they say caused a fiery crash on Tonnelle Avenue that critically injured an innocent bystander late Sunday night.

Leo Pinkston, 48, is charged with eluding and aggravated assault in connection with the pursuit that began near Ocean and Cator avenues, Hudson County Prosecutor Esther Suarez announced.

People attempted to stop Pinkston at about 11 p.m. when he fled the scene. Authorities have not commented on why they were stopping the vehicle. During the pursuit, Pinkston is alleged to have caused at least two separate crashes.

In the first crash, Pinkston tried to drive between two lanes of traffic. Jersey City police officers fired "multiple shots" at Pinkston, Suarez said.

While Suarez did not specifically identify where on Tonnelle Avenue shots were fired, authorities were investigating shell casings found near Carlton Avenue early Monday morning.

About a mile up the road, Pinkston crashed into a utility pole which caught fire and injured another driver who was not involved in the pursuit. The 28-year-old West New York man is currently in critical but stable condition at the Burn Center at St. Barnabas Medical Center, Suarez said.

Because police were involved in the shooting, the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office is leading the investigation.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to the innocent victim and his family," Suarez said in a statement. "We will utilize all resources available to the Prosecutor's Office for a full and thorough investigation as we seek to bring this matter to a rightful conclusion."

Police did not provide a pursuit route, but it is estimated to have been anywhere between five and seven miles.

According to the Jersey City Police Department's guidelines, officers should not fire from or at moving vehicles unless "there exists an imminent danger or death or serious bodily harm to the officer or another person" and when "no other means are available at that time to avert or eliminate the danger."

Additionally, the use of deadly force is justified when an officer feels there is "imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury." Shooting at a fleeing suspect is only acceptable when the individual "caused or attempted to cause death or serious bodily injury," poses an "imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury should the escape succeed," and when there is "no substantial risk of injury to innocent persons."

The Hudson County Prosecutor's Office is asking that anyone with information or video to call 201-915-1345 or to leave an anonymous tip on the Hudson County Prosecutor's official website. All information will be kept confidential.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... d.html#incart_2box_hudson

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"At least one suspect was seriously burned in the crash."

too bad he didnt burn to death along with anyone else in the car.


The person burned in the car was an innocent bystander:
RLS Media - Innocent Bystander Suffers Serious Burns

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"At least one suspect was seriously burned in the crash."

too bad he didnt burn to death along with anyone else in the car.

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Look like the crash grounded a power line and pretty much cooked whatever the line landed on.

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{Edit} Hudson County Prosecutors Units are rolling towards the scene. A few reasons as to why they would respond. Maybe there are fatalities. Could be because of the severity of the crime scene. Could also be because there maybe police involved shooting.

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{Edit} An Ambulance with 4 police car escort just returned from the scene. OEM Truck responded.

{Edit} Fire radio says 2 cars fully engulfed in flames, also reports of shots fired in that vicinity. Don't know if this connected or a separate incident.

{Edit} From Twitter: @NNJnews: Jersey City, NJ - Tonnelle Ave near North St - Police pursuit resulted in a mva w/ numerous injured including Officers. Highway is closed.

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I counted 2 dozen + PD cars,marked and unmarked from the North, East, West, and South districts roll down North on JFK . Along side 4 Ambulances, a Paramedic unit, 3 ESU Trucks and Rescue 1.. Looks like all the new PD cars the city got is responding.

{edit} I'm updating the count as the cars/trucks go by.

{edit} Could be related, but 2 ambulances just went south on Kennedy and I believe a bomb squad esu truck went north towards the scene.

{edit} It's all calm for now. Only saw 2 or three other district units return.

{Edit} This is not normal. 2 NJ Park Police Units (my guess based at Liberty) are rolling down Kennedy.

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