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Re: GoFundMe $$$ fill an Exploited LOOP-HOLE in NJ Open Public Records Act [OPRA] in <1hour !
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The requestor is not asking for project documents, but asking for any email or other communications between Donnelly Fulop, Corp. Counsel, and Paul Hoffman regarding the land transfer. It is cast as widely as possible and also encompasses potentially attorney client privileged documents involving Farrell.

Under NJ's extremely liberal OPRA laws, this is likely a valid request. But it also is taxing on city resources, especially given the gratuitous decision to include Farell in the search.

This person and a handful of other "activists' have been filing OPRA requests for years and have essentially turned the city's staff into their personal gofers so they can try to find emails that they can selectively quote from. Remarkably, given the number of requests over the past few years, one would think that they could have found more. Asking her to compensate the city for the employee's time is more than reasonable in this instance.
IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT NOTHING WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE BY NOON ON THE DAY OF THE 3/22/17 COUNCIL MEETING,
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JCRA BOARD [WHICH IS CHAIRED BY OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT LAVARRO WITH ANOTHER SEATED COUNCIL MEMBER-RIVERA IN ATTENDANCE] HAD VOTED IN RESOLUTION #17-03-#26 BY UNANIMOUS 7-0 VOTE THE DAY BEFORE WHICH WAS NOT ON THEIR MEETING AGENDA WHICH STOPPED AT ITEM #21....[WHAT THE PUBLIC MUST RELY UPON TO SERVE AS PROPER NOTICE]

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DON'T THINK THAT THESE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE CHARGES FIT YOUR SCENARIO OF "This person and a handful of other "activists' have been filing OPRA requests for years..."

1ST PARTY INVOLVEMENT + VOTE BY LAVARRO & RIVERA IN BOTH MEETINGS CARRY A SPECIAL OBLIGATION TO THEIR FELLOW COUNCILPERSONS & JERSEY CITY CONSTITUENTS.

LAST ATTORNEY I SPOKE WITH ADVISED DISCOVERY & THEIR SWORN TESTIMONY 'WOULD BE EASILY ADMISSIBLE IN ANY NJ COURT' !!

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Re: GoFundMe $$$ fill an Exploited LOOP-HOLE in NJ Open Public Records Act [OPRA] in <1hour !
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JC has hired so many employees compared to the previous administration that it cannot use this excuse of taxing city resources. The city ordinance on the 16 acres of land had only 3 pages. I asked an important question at the council meeting. Will this development receive redevelopment funds? I was told, "I don't know," by the City Council President who is also the Chairman of the Redevelopment Board. Not only did the city transfer valueable land but some likely the funds will come from public sources.

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The requestor is not asking for project documents, but asking for any email or other communications between Donnelly Fulop, Corp. Counsel, and Paul Hoffman regarding the land transfer. It is cast as widely as possible and also encompasses potentially attorney client privileged documents involving Farrell.

Under NJ's extremely liberal OPRA laws, this is likely a valid request. But it also is taxing on city resources, especially given the gratuitous decision to include Farell in the search.

This person and a handful of other "activists' have been filing OPRA requests for years and have essentially turned the city's staff into their personal gofers so they can try to find emails that they can selectively quote from. Remarkably, given the number of requests over the past few years, one would think that they could have found more. Asking her to compensate the city for the employee's time is more than reasonable in this instance.

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Re: GoFundMe $$$ fill an Exploited LOOP-HOLE in NJ Open Public Records Act [OPRA] in <1hour !
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"In other words, the city is charging Esther for what is normally a request granted for free, in what appears to be an attempt to dissuade and discourage her from getting these documents. "

She means "free" as in free to her - not free to the taxpayers who are paying the city clerk to perform 5 hours of their ordinary work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

NOT ALL THAT COMPLICATED...."Tragedy_of_the_commons...."

City is charging EVERYONE Administrative Fees for sorting thru & RE-DACTING portions of Public Documents in an "attempt to dissuade and discourage her from getting these documents" to become informed.
Part of Fulop's policy to Control the Narrative !

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"In other words, the city is charging Esther for what is normally a request granted for free, in what appears to be an attempt to dissuade and discourage her from getting these documents. "

She means "free" as in free to her - not free to the taxpayers who are paying the city clerk to perform 5 hours of their ordinary work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons


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Goal is met. congratulations

Nice to see that OBTUSE is alive & well in JC

VIVA S.T.E.M. EDU

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Goal is met. congratulations

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It is a sorry day when any JC resident or constituent must tender CASH IN ADVANCE [CIA] to obtain Public Records in our City,
"HOWEVER", We have now seen that day.

GP Inquiring Minds & STEM fans, [who took their valuable time to attend the most recent city council meeting to obtain details surrounding SciTech City project] when met by dismissive attitudes & ridicule for their COMMUNITY INTEREST, decided to OPRA the info denied.

What did they get ??
JC Administrative Fee invoice for $216.00
SO they DID THIS:::
https://www.gofundme.com/esther-wintners-opra-fees

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