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Re: How do you feel about Traffic Safety in JC? We want to know!
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While by-and-large these are much larger cities, it's instructive to see the level of planning and creative thinking that go into making safer streets, that are better integrated with different transportation modes. While Jersey City is smaller, older, denser, with real infrastructure limitations, IMO we are more hobbled by City Hall's lack of imagination and planning.

http://www.curbed.com/2017/1/24/14361 ... sportation-light-rail-bus

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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.


Not necessarily more cars, though that can happen. Development brings increased density of humans. Humans need to get around and into/out of the city. Ensuring we/they can do that safely is crucial. Better planning, improved engineering and offering more/better public transit and walkability and bikeability are all pieces of that. I definitely agree this whole topic of safe people circulation has not been well-thought out or holistically managed as our city seeks to build build build. That's why we formed Safe Streets JC.


It will take multi billions of dollars to have a system that gets JC folks around JC. No one will invest that kind of funds. The more you build, the more you will have cars.


"multi billions" hahaha

Space X can launch a rocket for less than 60 million and you're quoting billions to put some safe bike paths in and a trolley or two?
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The lite rail cost is nearly $70 million per mile. http://www.publicpurpose.com/ut-lrt00capcost.htm


There are much more cost effective options than light rail. Bus Rapid Transit is highly effective, nimble and cost-effective. Its why so many countriess in South American are implementing it all over - and its working!

Cars aren't going away. But they don't *have* to increase. There are a lot of options that haven't' been really explored yet.

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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.


Not necessarily more cars, though that can happen. Development brings increased density of humans. Humans need to get around and into/out of the city. Ensuring we/they can do that safely is crucial. Better planning, improved engineering and offering more/better public transit and walkability and bikeability are all pieces of that. I definitely agree this whole topic of safe people circulation has not been well-thought out or holistically managed as our city seeks to build build build. That's why we formed Safe Streets JC.


It will take multi billions of dollars to have a system that gets JC folks around JC. No one will invest that kind of funds. The more you build, the more you will have cars.


"multi billions" hahaha

Space X can launch a rocket for less than 60 million and you're quoting billions to put some safe bike paths in and a trolley or two?
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The lite rail cost is nearly $70 million per mile. http://www.publicpurpose.com/ut-lrt00capcost.htm


Jesus. I stand corrected.

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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.


Not necessarily more cars, though that can happen. Development brings increased density of humans. Humans need to get around and into/out of the city. Ensuring we/they can do that safely is crucial. Better planning, improved engineering and offering more/better public transit and walkability and bikeability are all pieces of that. I definitely agree this whole topic of safe people circulation has not been well-thought out or holistically managed as our city seeks to build build build. That's why we formed Safe Streets JC.


It will take multi billions of dollars to have a system that gets JC folks around JC. No one will invest that kind of funds. The more you build, the more you will have cars.


"multi billions" hahaha

Space X can launch a rocket for less than 60 million and you're quoting billions to put some safe bike paths in and a trolley or two?
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The lite rail cost is nearly $70 million per mile. http://www.publicpurpose.com/ut-lrt00capcost.htm

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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.


Not necessarily more cars, though that can happen. Development brings increased density of humans. Humans need to get around and into/out of the city. Ensuring we/they can do that safely is crucial. Better planning, improved engineering and offering more/better public transit and walkability and bikeability are all pieces of that. I definitely agree this whole topic of safe people circulation has not been well-thought out or holistically managed as our city seeks to build build build. That's why we formed Safe Streets JC.


It will take multi billions of dollars to have a system that gets JC folks around JC. No one will invest that kind of funds. The more you build, the more you will have cars.


"multi billions" hahaha

Space X can launch a rocket for less than 60 million and you're quoting billions to put some safe bike paths in and a trolley or two?
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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.


Not necessarily more cars, though that can happen. Development brings increased density of humans. Humans need to get around and into/out of the city. Ensuring we/they can do that safely is crucial. Better planning, improved engineering and offering more/better public transit and walkability and bikeability are all pieces of that. I definitely agree this whole topic of safe people circulation has not been well-thought out or holistically managed as our city seeks to build build build. That's why we formed Safe Streets JC.


It will take multi billions of dollars to have a system that gets JC folks around JC. No one will invest that kind of funds. The more you build, the more you will have cars.

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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.


Not necessarily more cars, though that can happen. Development brings increased density of humans. Humans need to get around and into/out of the city. Ensuring we/they can do that safely is crucial. Better planning, improved engineering and offering more/better public transit and walkability and bikeability are all pieces of that. I definitely agree this whole topic of safe people circulation has not been well-thought out or holistically managed as our city seeks to build build build. That's why we formed Safe Streets JC.

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I work for a NYC agency, and recently attended a meeting at the NYC Department of Transportation - the level of thought and planning being put into planning and infrastructure improvements in New York to calm traffic, make the city more accessible to cyclists and pedestrians of all levels of mobility, and to make the streets greener is astounding.

I truly believes this goes beyond resources - it's a matter of culture and leadership. Here, in Jersey City, Mayor Fulop needed to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table while SafeStreets raised the issue after people were being mowed down on JFK Boulevard. He and his administration have showed an abysmal lack of leadership on anything to do with public safety and quality of life in Jersey City - IMO, the improvements in NYC and other cities start with leadership.

The urban culture is a harder thing to change, admittedly, although NYC planners talk convincingly about a "diet" on vehicular use. I've lived here for 8 years, and continue to be appalled by the pathologically anti-social so many JC residents exhibit - especially behind the wheel.


We'd love to engage with you about what you are seeing done well in NYC from your agency perspective. Please take our survey, and send us a note at admin@safestreetsjc.org.

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Development brings people and people brings cars. This administration wants to beat Newark in population. The goal of beating Newark adds to the problem in addition all new buildings now are under Redevelopment plans which ignores traffic studies.

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The urban culture is a harder thing to change, admittedly, although NYC planners talk convincingly about a "diet" on vehicular use. I've lived here for 8 years, and continue to be appalled by the pathologically anti-social so many JC residents exhibit - especially behind the wheel.

Maybe it's not the money that is keeping these newbies from staying in Nyc. J.C. seems to have a lackadaisical attitude and effort towards enforcement so the city becomes inviting for the lazy ignorant rule breakers.

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I work for a NYC agency, and recently attended a meeting at the NYC Department of Transportation - the level of thought and planning being put into planning and infrastructure improvements in New York to calm traffic, make the city more accessible to cyclists and pedestrians of all levels of mobility, and to make the streets greener is astounding.

I truly believes this goes beyond resources - it's a matter of culture and leadership. Here, in Jersey City, Mayor Fulop needed to be dragged kicking and screaming to the table while SafeStreets raised the issue after people were being mowed down on JFK Boulevard. He and his administration have showed an abysmal lack of leadership on anything to do with public safety and quality of life in Jersey City - IMO, the improvements in NYC and other cities start with leadership.

The urban culture is a harder thing to change, admittedly, although NYC planners talk convincingly about a "diet" on vehicular use. I've lived here for 8 years, and continue to be appalled by the pathologically anti-social so many JC residents exhibit - especially behind the wheel.

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Another person run down in the street today. Box truck driver hits pedestrian, now in critical condition. Newark Ave. & Tonnelle Ave., in Little India.

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Anyone who's driven in Little India can tell you, it's a shit show of jaywalkers (and aggressive drivers).

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Another person run down in the street today. Box truck driver hits pedestrian, now in critical condition. Newark Ave. & Tonnelle Ave., in Little India.

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I did the survey, and put in random text for those fields. It would be a good idea to have that as an option though.


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I did the survey, and put in random text for those fields. It would be a good idea to have that as an option though.

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unfortunately I believe a lot of people will be dissuaded from filling this out based on the requirement that email and phone be provided. Last thing I want is my contact info circulating or being added to a newsletter.

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Safe Streets JC is a new grassroots organization focused on improving Traffic Safety in Jersey City, city-wide. We'd like to know what Traffic Safety concerns our fellow residents have. Please take our new survey here:
tinyurl.com/SSJC-Survey1701.

We had a successful meeting with Mayor Fulop & Director Shea last month wherein they committed to launching - and they have since done so - a traffic safety unit within the JCPD. They will be expanding this unit and its ability to work citywide, and they committed to our next public meeting with them in March.

On Sat. Feb 18th, from 10:30-12:30pm, we'll be having a community meeting to brainstorm resident traffic issues and priorities in preparation for the March meeting. This will be held at Grace Van Vorst Church, on 2nd st. Everyone is welcome to attend and share ideas and concerns.

In the meantime - please take our quick survey. You can also join our Facebook group to trade ideas and note issues of concern.
Join us here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/safestreetsjc/

We look forward to your participation!
Kara Hrabosky
Co-Founder, Safe Streets JC

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