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Re: FULOP, DEAL WITH PEDESTRIAN & BIKE SAFETY!!
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OTOH, I've yet to see a single pedestrian obey the 'red hand' at the JFK/Communipaw intersection, giving cars the ability to make a left turn in front of opposing traffic-they ignore it 100%.

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Red light cameras (championed by Whizzy, who got a lot of $ from the red light camera companies) died after the trial period showed little or no improvement of safety-but the towns LOVED it because they sucked up the cash from tickets.


As a pedestrian, I loved them because on the blocks of JFK in my hood, they worked! Now drivers are constantly running red lights, and pedestrians with the walk sign have near misses with getting hit daily. I now have to give like an extra 3-5 secs after the light changes to cross the street at JFK/Duncan, where we use to have a camera. This was not a problem like this when the cameras were in place.

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No charges filed against driver in fatal Jersey City crash on Kennedy Boulevard

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on October 03, 2016 at 12:35 PM, updated October 03, 2016 at 1:43 PM

JERSEY CITY -- No charges have been filed against the driver who fatally struck a 30-year-old man crossing Kennedy Boulevard early Thursday morning.

Police said Juan Mas was struck by a taxi near Leonard Street at about 6 a.m. The driver, a Union City resident, stayed at the scene with the victim where he was pronounced dead, police said.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... o.html#incart_2box_hudson

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Red light cameras (championed by Whizzy, who got a lot of $ from the red light camera companies) died after the trial period showed little or no improvement of safety-but the towns LOVED it because they sucked up the cash from tickets.

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Agreed, but as previously explained NJ state has outlawed both red light and speed cameras. So not an option right now. But enforcement is.

Which politicians are responsible for killing these initiatives? Pressure needs to be put on them, too.


Much of the NJ State legislature. That's a way bigger battle. Let's start with JC and what can be done here.

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a few months back someone did a time lapse video at jersey and York. It got quick attention and was used on the local news.

Good video can get attention especially when it is embarrassing to the City


It got attention for about 5 mins. Sadly, the city has done nothing about it in terms of improving enforcement. So we all need to keep the pressure on with consistent public pressure in all its forms.

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I complained to the city about a month ago about drivers routinely going through the stop sign at LSP, the corner of Phillip St. and Johnston. It's very dangerous for pedestrians/cyclists going into or out of the park. The employee said he would send a police car out to observe. I'm not clear what good that did or could do, but the situation is the same.

I also volunteered to take videos of drivers going through the stop sign. I was told that videos by the general public are not admissible.

However, if enough of us did this and posted it online and to Fulop - assuming it's legal, it may have an effect. Or maybe I have my rose-colored glasses on.


YESSSS! DO THIS and tweet it to @stevenfulop with hashtag #jcmakeityours. This fits in completely with the effort needed here to get the Mayor's public attention on this city-wide problem.

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As a driver, I have to say the prevailing "pedestrian can do no wrong" attitude doesn't help solve the problem at all. I see a lot of pedestrians with earbuds, crossing when they're not supposed to, taking their sweet time getting across. I think there has to be a multi pronged approach where Jay walkers are actively treated as as driver not yielding to pedestrians.


That is not the POV here at all. Enforcement includes all users of the roads, including pedestrians.

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no, people should be able to bike on JFK, if there was a will, it could be calmed.

look at the map of JC bike lanes -

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7162854,-74.0811764,14z/data=!5m1!1e3

there are no connected north/south or east/west routes. it only isolates JC neighborhoods into district separated areas. starting to stripe bike lanes was just that, a start. but then nothing.

on any given day, 3 of the 4 people in my household bike to work or school, that is less cars on the road, and less people on our overcrowded buses.

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I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.

You really shouldn't ride on JFK. Or expect the city to put real bike lanes onto JFK.

One of the goals of bicycle routes is that it encourages cyclists to avoid the roads with faster and more auto traffic.

I highly recommend you find a parallel route.


I don't know any parallel routes to JFK which room for bike lanes. Westside ave and bergan ave barely have room for cars. There is only room on JFK for bike lanes at least from the West side(and I'm pretty sure from the heights). They have them on Columbus and that road used to be a clusterfuck.

Biking is becoming more and more of a norm in America and the infrastructureure needs to be updated to reflect this change. Jersey city can't continue this car only mentality.[/quote]

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Agreed, but as previously explained NJ state has outlawed both red light and speed cameras. So not an option right now. But enforcement is.

Which politicians are responsible for killing these initiatives? Pressure needs to be put on them, too.

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I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.

You really shouldn't ride on JFK. Or expect the city to put real bike lanes onto JFK.

One of the goals of bicycle routes is that it encourages cyclists to avoid the roads with faster and more auto traffic.

I highly recommend you find a parallel route.[/quote]

I don't know any parallel routes to JFK which room for bike lanes. Westside ave and bergan ave barely have room for cars. There is only room on JFK for bike lanes at least from the West side(and I'm pretty sure from the heights). They have them on Columbus and that road used to be a clusterfuck.

Biking is becoming more and more of a norm in America and the infrastructureure needs to be updated to reflect this change. Jersey city can't continue this car only mentality.

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a few months back someone did a time lapse video at jersey and York. It got quick attention and was used on the local news.

Good video can get attention especially when it is embarrassing to the City

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I complained to the city about a month ago about drivers routinely going through the stop sign at LSP, the corner of Phillip St. and Johnston. It's very dangerous for pedestrians/cyclists going into or out of the park. The employee said he would send a police car out to observe. I'm not clear what good that did or could do, but the situation is the same.

I also volunteered to take videos of drivers going through the stop sign. I was told that videos by the general public are not admissible.

However, if enough of us did this and posted it online and to Fulop - assuming it's legal, it may have an effect. Or maybe I have my rose-colored glasses on.

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As a driver, I have to say the prevailing "pedestrian can do no wrong" attitude doesn't help solve the problem at all. I see a lot of pedestrians with earbuds, crossing when they're not supposed to, taking their sweet time getting across. I think there has to be a multi pronged approach where Jay walkers are actively treated as as driver not yielding to pedestrians.

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Seriously? They can't tell you how many moving violations were written?!!!


Not really, and its a problem. See this as an illustration.


Can it be possible traffic citations aren't in the COMSTAT with every stop & frisk? Seems unlikely. I find it hard to believe that if the chief said "how many moving violations were written in 2015?" he wouldn't have it in his hand in 5 minutes. These people work for us, the public. They need to act like it, not like we're asking for a bank loan.

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Fulop neither cares about improving traffic safety nor does he have the knowledge or skill set to do so.

We need a new mayor who truly cares about the safety of Jersey City's residents.


The first part of your statement (not caring) - I'd agree with, and its a huge problem. The second part I think is false. He only has to make it a priority and let the experts improve it, and just stay on them to make them follow through.


He has to at least know that he needs to hire the right people and know how to hire them. Every bungled action over the past 4 years has proven him incompetent to do so.

We need a new mayor in 2017.

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We've been trying to get the clear data you are seeking from the JCPD for awhile now. The record keeping isn't great.


Seriously? They can't tell you how many moving violations were written?!!!


Not really, and its a problem. See this as an illustration.

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We've been trying to get the clear data you are seeking from the JCPD for awhile now. The record keeping isn't great.


Seriously? They can't tell you how many moving violations were written?!!!

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Actually, its a long held fact that once one crosses into Bayonne via JFK Blvd that you need to slow down to the speed limit or get busted for speeding. Why? Because they have always had solid and consistent enforcement in Bayonne.. Its not that hard to do and we should be demanding it from our City.


Where would one find stats to back this up? Like traffic tickets per officer or per capita? Clearly our neighbors to the N & S have better enforcement. Of course one expects the JCPD to respond "we have more crime to deal with and don't have time for traffic". Hence my proposal for a traffic division.


I am also in agreement with you about a traffic division - that's part of what we can push Fulop to do by making this a priority.

We've been trying to get the clear data you are seeking from the JCPD for awhile now. The record keeping isn't great. Another item that Fulop can direct improvement on, via the Director of Innovation's help (Brian Platt).

So all of this goes back to pushing Fulop to make this problem a priority. See?

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Actually, its a long held fact that once one crosses into Bayonne via JFK Blvd that you need to slow down to the speed limit or get busted for speeding. Why? Because they have always had solid and consistent enforcement in Bayonne.. Its not that hard to do and we should be demanding it from our City.


Where would one find stats to back this up? Like traffic tickets per officer or per capita? Clearly our neighbors to the N & S have better enforcement. Of course one expects the JCPD to respond "we have more crime to deal with and don't have time for traffic". Hence my proposal for a traffic division.

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You think this guy hit by the cab would fly 50 feet through the air if the cab were driving the speed limit, or close to the speed limit?

Yes.

The driver could easily have been driving at 30 - 35mph, and thrown the pedestrian 50 feet. Cars have a large amount of mass, and pedestrians do not. That's still speeding, but also very typical speeds not just on JFK, but on similar roads pretty much anywhere in the US. I see people drive like that all the time in the 'burbs.

http://www.mcnallyassociates.com/onlinetools/speedfromthrow.htm

Plus, I still haven't seen data suggesting that the pedestrian/cyclist fatality rate in JC is disproportionately high. If anything, that seems to be a national issue, not a local one.

I.e. suggesting that drivers suddenly lose their minds once they cross the city border does not appear to be justified.


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I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.

You really shouldn't ride on JFK. Or expect the city to put real bike lanes onto JFK.

One of the goals of bicycle routes is that it encourages cyclists to avoid the roads with faster and more auto traffic.

I highly recommend you find a parallel route.


Actually, its a long held fact that once one crosses into Bayonne via JFK Blvd that you need to slow down to the speed limit or get busted for speeding. Why? Because they have always had solid and consistent enforcement in Bayonne.. Its not that hard to do and we should be demanding it from our City.

Yes, its a national problem, potentially. But none of what you put forth give the Mayor/City a pass to do nothing about it.

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You think this guy hit by the cab would fly 50 feet through the air if the cab were driving the speed limit, or close to the speed limit?

Yes.

The driver could easily have been driving at 30 - 35mph, and thrown the pedestrian 50 feet. Cars have a large amount of mass, and pedestrians do not. That's still speeding, but also very typical speeds not just on JFK, but on similar roads pretty much anywhere in the US. I see people drive like that all the time in the 'burbs.

http://www.mcnallyassociates.com/onlinetools/speedfromthrow.htm

Plus, I still haven't seen data suggesting that the pedestrian/cyclist fatality rate in JC is disproportionately high. If anything, that seems to be a national issue, not a local one.

I.e. suggesting that drivers suddenly lose their minds once they cross the city border does not appear to be justified.


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I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.

You really shouldn't ride on JFK. Or expect the city to put real bike lanes onto JFK.

One of the goals of bicycle routes is that it encourages cyclists to avoid the roads with faster and more auto traffic.

I highly recommend you find a parallel route.

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Fulop neither cares about improving traffic safety nor does he have the knowledge or skill set to do so.

We need a new mayor who truly cares about the safety of Jersey City's residents.


The first part of your statement (not caring) - I'd agree with, and its a huge problem. The second part I think is false. He only has to make it a priority and let the experts improve it, and just stay on them to make them follow through.

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Fulop neither cares about improving traffic safety nor does he have the knowledge or skill set to do so.

We need a new mayor who truly cares about the safety of Jersey City's residents.

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For those rhetorically asking about crossing in the pathway and speeding, if you look at the pictures, the dude's hat and sneakers are in the middle of the intersection. This means he was probably in the crosswalk. If you're struck by a car, clothing on your extremities are subject to whiplash and tend to get knocked off right away (although the other major opportunity for that to happen is during impact with the ground, so that is a possibility). http://i.imgur.com/NkleEfD.gif for a much tamer version of this.

Also, in order for the body itself to be thrown "50 feet", the driver had to be going at a significant rate of speed, probably well over the 25 speed limit.

Obviously no idea bout crossing against or with the light because no one has any idea on that, but you can figure out the answers to two out of those three posits.

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like ticketing those at 4th & Marin who cross against the DON'T WALK


There's no crosswalk on 4th and Marin. You mean 3rd? Because that entire crosswalk area is a giant shitshow in every possible way



Incorrect assumption on this victim. He was thrown 50 ft. That much we know. And then clothing likely flies off him too. So, no - we don't know where he crossed. Steven Clifford in 2013 crossed at the crosswalk and was thrown about 75-80 ft. Where he crossed the street is really irrelevant at this point.

The point is that speed kills and needs to be enforced, and this is something the city can and should do. If the guy was hit by the car going 25 or even 35mph, he'd likely still be alive.

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like ticketing those at 4th & Marin who cross against the DON'T WALK


There's no crosswalk on 4th and Marin. You mean 3rd? Because that entire crosswalk area is a giant shitshow in every possible way



I think the west exit from Shoprite is 4th because it's marked 4th at the other end on Washington. Signage and map show "Metro Plaza Dr". Whatever, we agree it's a shitshow.

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For those rhetorically asking about crossing in the pathway and speeding, if you look at the pictures, the dude's hat and sneakers are in the middle of the intersection. This means he was probably in the crosswalk. If you're struck by a car, clothing on your extremities are subject to whiplash and tend to get knocked off right away (although the other major opportunity for that to happen is during impact with the ground, so that is a possibility). http://i.imgur.com/NkleEfD.gif for a much tamer version of this.

Also, in order for the body itself to be thrown "50 feet", the driver had to be going at a significant rate of speed, probably well over the 25 speed limit.

Obviously no idea bout crossing against or with the light because no one has any idea on that, but you can figure out the answers to two out of those three posits.

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like ticketing those at 4th & Marin who cross against the DON'T WALK


There's no crosswalk on 4th and Marin. You mean 3rd? Because that entire crosswalk area is a giant shitshow in every possible way


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JC has drivers who don't know how to drive, pedestrians who don't follow traffic rules, bikers on the sidewalks, no one obeys traffic signs and lights.

Everyone is to blame.


I agree that all parties contribute to what can be a chaotic environment on the roads, but it's drivers going 20, 30 mph over the posted speed limits that are responsible for DEATHS in these cases.

You think this guy hit by the cab would fly 50 feet through the air if the cab were driving the speed limit, or close to the speed limit?

I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.



Thank you, this is my whole point! This thread is a plea for ENFORCEMENT and a real commitment from our Mayor to address the city-wide problem of terrible pedestrian & biking safety caused [mostly] by a culture of chronic speeding and reckless driving that's been permitted to exist unchecked for so long. You get enforcement out there, speeds should go down, all people on the roads hopefully start to pay more attention to operating safer on the roads.

Traffic Enforcement is also a presence that has the secondary positive effect of potentially lowering other crimes as Police become more visible in neighborhoods, and criminals drive - traffic stops often catch criminals. Also, getting killed by a speeding car is a violent crime. That needs to be acknowledged. The rate of death by auto in JC when put beside the stats of deaths by other criminal means is pretty high ratio, actually. We've pulled the data and its staggering how many of the criminal deaths (including death by auto in that sum) are caused by car crashes.

Its an easy win for the Mayor on so many levels and we need to demand it.

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JC has drivers who don't know how to drive, pedestrians who don't follow traffic rules, bikers on the sidewalks, no one obeys traffic signs and lights.

Everyone is to blame.


I agree that all parties contribute to what can be a chaotic environment on the roads, but it's drivers going 20, 30 mph over the posted speed limits that are responsible for DEATHS in these cases.

You think this guy hit by the cab would fly 50 feet through the air if the cab were driving the speed limit, or close to the speed limit?

I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.


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JC has drivers who don't know how to drive, pedestrians who don't follow traffic rules, bikers on the sidewalks, no one obeys traffic signs and lights.

Everyone is to blame.


End times are near, I agree 100% with Monroe's post!

As for my camera equipped Traffic Officer, it's not at all clear to me it would not be legal. It's not "automated", which is the legislative description of the systems no longer in use (from the act: "“Automated traffic law enforcement” means the utilization of an automated traffic control")

It would simply be an extension of a cop seeing someone break the law and ticketing them. Stand at the corner of Columbus and Monmouth and shoot endless cars abusing the turn lane to pass the line of cars going straight, then move to another intersection to shoot roll throughs, so drivers have no idea where they might be filmed next. Another Officer reviews recordings and the system send out tickets. Result: OBEYING THE FUCKING LAW!!

I restate, make them no points same as the cams, so it's a painful bite but not enough to make people fight it in a deathmatch fearing for their insurance and license. Oh yeah, lets include jaywalking pedestrians in the fun, like ticketing those at 4th & Marin who cross against the DON'T WALK stealing the brief left turn light.

And just to over the top radical, people should have to retake the written exam several times after they get their licenses, like at 1 year, 3 years and 5 years. Clearly the once is not enough for them to know what to do on our roads.

Posted on: 2016/9/29 20:56
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