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I thought that the venture would pass, but it didn't.

The people have spoken.

I do believe though that the legalization of marijuana issue which Sweeney and a couple of other pols are positing has replaced the casino idea.

The revenue from this move will be astronomical with quite a bit less effort overall.


This is a much better idea than the casino one and I'd love to see it happen.

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I thought that the venture would pass, but it didn't.

The people have spoken.

I do believe though that the legalization of marijuana issue which Sweeney and a couple of other pols are positing has replaced the casino idea.

The revenue from this move will be astronomical with quite a bit less effort overall.

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N.J. voters overwhelmingly reject North Jersey casino proposal

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TRENTON — New Jersey voters Tuesday overwhelmingly rejected a controversial proposal to expand casino gambling to the northern part of the state, meaning Atlantic City will retain its four-decade monopoly on gaming. 

The ballot question failed in what could likely be one of the largest margins of defeat for any referendum in New Jersey history. 

The referendum, which would have amended the state constitution to allow two casinos to be built at least 72 miles north of Atlantic City, was also one of the more unusual ones the state has ever seen.

It sparked fierce arguments across the state, drew a record amount of spending among interest groups for and against the idea, and the group supporting the plan  — Our Turn NJ — ended its ad campaign more than a month before Election Day when polling looked dismal.

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N.J. voters overwhelmingly reject North Jersey casino proposal

By Brent Johnson | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
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TRENTON — New Jersey voters Tuesday overwhelmingly rejected a controversial proposal to expand casino gambling to the northern part of the state, meaning Atlantic City will retain its four-decade monopoly on gaming. 

The ballot question failed in what could likely be one of the largest margins of defeat for any referendum in New Jersey history. 

The referendum, which would have amended the state constitution to allow two casinos to be built at least 72 miles north of Atlantic City, was also one of the more unusual ones the state has ever seen.

It sparked fierce arguments across the state, drew a record amount of spending among interest groups for and against the idea, and the group supporting the plan  — Our Turn NJ — ended its ad campaign more than a month before Election Day when polling looked dismal.

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"Trump himself boasted that he “had the good sense to leave Atlantic City.”

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Hell no to casinos coming here. Don't need the degenerates, vice, and crime a casino brings. And I don't care if someone links some fake study supposedly showing the contrary. I know that casinos trashify an area.

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Civic JC supports Trenton’s Bad Bet in opposing North Jersey casinos

Civic JC, a non-profit group dedicated to promoting good government in Jersey City, has joined Trenton’s Bad Bet in opposing bringing casino gaming to North Jersey.

By John Heinis/Hudson County View

“We are proud to stand with Trenton’s Bad Bet in opposing casino expansion, which would be detrimental to our neighborhoods, our communities and our environment,” Civic JC President Esther Wintner said in a statement.

“Some of our elected officials have shown their true colors by pushing the priorities of developers over the needs of the people.”

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Big Backers Shelve Media Push for New Jersey Casino Expansion

Polling showed little appetite among the state’s voters for gambling expansion outside Atlantic City, they said

WALL STREET JOURNAL - ByKate King  Sept. 22, 2016 10:11 p.m. ET

The two main backers of a campaign to allow casinos in northern New Jersey said Thursday they had suspended their paid media advertisements, citing internal and external polling that showed little appetite among the state’s voters for gambling expansion outside Atlantic City.

Billionaire investor Paul Fireman and real estate tycoon Jeff Gural had promised to invest billions in building two casinos on the Jersey City waterfront and at the Meadowlands in East Rutherford.

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Odds are not looking good for North Jersey casinos, poll finds

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _for_north_jersey_ca.html

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I'm all for the idea.

It'll bring jobs of all sorts into the area -- nothing wrong with that.

As far as an environmental impact, community groups have to keep up pressure to ensure that safeguards come along with the project.

I predict that it'll pass.

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I've read a number of articles on why casino gambling in Atlantic City "failed" - most of them focus on how Atlantic City - which was never a destination like Vegas, rather, drew more daytrippers - suffered from competition from other gambling venues in PA, NY, and CT, the economic downturn after 2008, and a lack of investment in the larger city, and too much competition generally. Some articles talk about political corruption.

Given that, how do the developers plan to ensure a casino in Jersey City is truly viable? It will be up against the same competition in PA and CT, there is really nothing around it - unlike Vegas - to make it part of a "destination". I disagree with some posters that this is inherently a bad idea, but it's hard to see what will make it stand out as a success.


Huh? NYC, the largest city in the USA, is RIGHT ACROSS the river. To argue that there is really nothing in the area is silly, especially considering that there is LITERALLY NOTHING around Las Vegas, which was (and still is) surrounded by sand, as it is actually located in the Mojave Desert. People seem to forget that Las Vegas was a city built in the middle of nowhere with almost nothing to show for itself until fairly recently. As for the "competition" don't forget that the most valuable customers of AC and some of the other casinos in CT and PA are the "daytrippers" coming from the NYC metro area. If given the choice of traveling for an hour or two to PA, AC, or CT, I am sure many would choose to come here instead.

And, for the record, I don't really care for the casino idea. Just pointing out some basic facts...

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It is a great idea for that vacant barren area and will bring numerous pimps and players abound to shoot craps and pull one arm bandits.


The proposed ferry links to different parts of NYC will feed that need for 'yellow fever' from Elmhurst to 4th Ave in BKLYN.


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I've read a number of articles on why casino gambling in Atlantic City "failed" - most of them focus on how Atlantic City - which was never a destination like Vegas, rather, drew more daytrippers - suffered from competition from other gambling venues in PA, NY, and CT, the economic downturn after 2008, and a lack of investment in the larger city, and too much competition generally. Some articles talk about political corruption.

Given that, how do the developers plan to ensure a casino in Jersey City is truly viable? It will be up against the same competition in PA and CT, there is really nothing around it - unlike Vegas - to make it part of a "destination". I disagree with some posters that this is inherently a bad idea, but it's hard to see what will make it stand out as a success.


And Jersey City is closer to the Sands in PA or the casinos in CT.

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I've read a number of articles on why casino gambling in Atlantic City "failed" - most of them focus on how Atlantic City - which was never a destination like Vegas, rather, drew more daytrippers - suffered from competition from other gambling venues in PA, NY, and CT, the economic downturn after 2008, and a lack of investment in the larger city, and too much competition generally. Some articles talk about political corruption.

Given that, how do the developers plan to ensure a casino in Jersey City is truly viable? It will be up against the same competition in PA and CT, there is really nothing around it - unlike Vegas - to make it part of a "destination". I disagree with some posters that this is inherently a bad idea, but it's hard to see what will make it stand out as a success.

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Gambling was such a success in Atlantic City. Please sign the petition. Let's keep that monstrosity out of Jersey City.
https://www.change.org/p/mayor-steven- ... o-gambling-in-jersey-city


What is the point of a petition? This question is going on the November ballot for all of NJ to vote. Your vote there will actually mean something.

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Gambling was such a success in Atlantic City. Please sign the petition. Let's keep that monstrosity out of Jersey City.
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Developer touts casino plan as 'windfall' for Jersey City

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JERSEY CITY — Voters here in Jersey City are getting some special attention from Paul Fireman.

Fireman, the former head of Reebok International whose net worth stands at $1.03 billion, wants to build a casino just south of Liberty State Park. With the new ad campaign Our Turn NJ, he's hoping to convince New Jersey voters, and those in Jersey City especially, to approve a referendum on November's ballot that would expand casino gaming outside of Atlantic City.

Though Fireman, 72, hails from Massachusetts and lives now in Palm Beach, he is no stranger to Jersey City: he owns Liberty National Golf Club, which sits on 200 acres south of Liberty State Park. The posh club, which opened in 2006 on a site that for decades housed massive oil containers, has attracted luminaries like former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

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With New Jersey residents set to decide whether or not casino gaming will come to North Jersey on November 8, a new website is advocating for a 90-story hotel and casino complex known as Liberty Rising in Jersey City.

A rendering of the potential Liberty Rising hotel and casino by Friedmutter Group Architects.

A rendering of the potential Liberty Rising hotel and casino by Friedmutter Group Architects.

By John Heinis/Hudson County View

“Liberty Rising is a world-class resort with gaming that will bring jobs and economic opportunity to Jersey City and the surrounding region,” according to a website created by Our Turn NJ.

The $4 billion luxury complex, the brainchild of billionaire Reebok founder Paul Fireman, would potentially be located at 100 Caven Point Road – which is south of Liberty State Park and between an industrial area and Liberty National Golf Course.

The website says that the project would not disrupt residential areas near LSP or impact traffic on the Jersey City waterfront and would also provide easy access to the NJ Turnpike and Manhattan

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Queens virtual casino operator putting money behind that effort


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I pass by this area all the time biking. There is only a relatively small space between the "marina", the golf-course and the monorail. It is also next to a roundabout. I can't see a complex built there without impacting a few of these. On top of that, the lights would definitely be in full view of the the nature reserve. Increased traffic into LSP would also be likely if this absurdity is built. Let's have another Sandy to flood the lot and end it all.


How do we kill this bad idea???

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I pass by this area all the time biking. There is only a relatively small space between the "marina", the golf-course and the monorail. It is also next to a roundabout. I can't see a complex built there without impacting a few of these. On top of that, the lights would definitely be in full view of the the nature reserve. Increased traffic into LSP would also be likely if this absurdity is built. Let's have another Sandy to flood the lot and end it all.

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As North Jersey casino question looms, pro-Jersey City casino website launches

With New Jersey residents set to decide whether or not casino gaming will come to North Jersey on November 8, a new website is advocating for a 90-story hotel and casino complex known as Liberty Rising in Jersey City.

A rendering of the potential Liberty Rising hotel and casino by Friedmutter Group Architects.

A rendering of the potential Liberty Rising hotel and casino by Friedmutter Group Architects.

By John Heinis/Hudson County View

“Liberty Rising is a world-class resort with gaming that will bring jobs and economic opportunity to Jersey City and the surrounding region,” according to a website created by Our Turn NJ.

The $4 billion luxury complex, the brainchild of billionaire Reebok founder Paul Fireman, would potentially be located at 100 Caven Point Road – which is south of Liberty State Park and between an industrial area and Liberty National Golf Course.

The website says that the project would not disrupt residential areas near LSP or impact traffic on the Jersey City waterfront and would also provide easy access to the NJ Turnpike and Manhattan

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Lesniak will put it in Elizabeth by the Jersey Gardens.

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Labor leader not happy with Fulop's comments on North Jersey casinos

By Patrick Villanova | The Jersey Journal 
on April 14, 2016 at 5:20 PM, updated April 14, 2016 at 5:21 PM

after Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop announced he is reconsidering his support of North Jersey casino gaming, a union leader says he's "extremely disturbed" by the mayor's apparent about-face. 

William T. Mullen, the president of the New Jersey State Building & Construction Trades Council, said the expansion of casino gaming in North Jersey is an opportunity for a multi-billion dollar investment that could put thousands of construction workers to work and create permanent casino jobs. 

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This article sums up some of the political calculations.

http://politickernj.com/2016/04/as-fu ... es-center-stage-for-2017/

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If it's political in nature, then I suspect it has more to do with placing himself in opposition to Sweeney-Christie, who are reconciling on this matter, than campaign contributions.

I don't see anyone on the "no" side that could match the developers and unions contributing in support of this.


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