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By far the longest I've ever been stuck this a.m. due to a sick passenger, was a baby being delivered on the train?

I always thought "sick passenger" was code for "police presence", so as not to make people panic

On_The_3rd wrote:
By far the longest I've ever been stuck this a.m. due to a sick passenger, was a baby being delivered on the train?

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On_The_3rd wrote:
By far the longest I've ever been stuck this a.m. due to a sick passenger, was a baby being delivered on the train?

If you were having a medical emergency on a train, would you want to be yanked off and dumped on the platform?

(And yes, I also got stuck this morning.)

Actually, the MTA goes to great lengths to educate people about this and has always encouraged people to get off trains and onto platform to make it easier for help/assistance to reach you.

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On_The_3rd wrote:
By far the longest I've ever been stuck this a.m. due to a sick passenger, was a baby being delivered on the train?

If you were having a medical emergency on a train, would you want to be yanked off and dumped on the platform?

(And yes, I also got stuck this morning.)

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On_The_3rd wrote:
By far the longest I've ever been stuck this a.m. due to a sick passenger, was a baby being delivered on the train?

If you were having a medical emergency on a train, would you want to be yanked off and dumped on the platform?

(And yes, I also got stuck this morning.)

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By far the longest I've ever been stuck this a.m. due to a sick passenger, was a baby being delivered on the train?

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

Right!? I walk through the Oculus every day to and from work, and have started to pay attention to the stores that are getting ready to open. I had hoped it would be something along the lines of Grand Central - higher end, yes, but accessible - O & Co., Papyrus. I'm really surprised to see the stores in the Oculus - Kate Spade, Gucci, Longines, etc. I agree - PA (or is it Westfield's decision) seems to have paid zero attention to the demographics of the PATH riders.

I'm curious what other people think - is this supposed to become a destination for the surrounding Wall Street crowd?

I hope it all flops and Westfield loses tons of money.

Why? Even if most 'common people' dont shop there, higher end retail means higher rents, and if they can make $1 billion of the $4 billion they spent back, they are at least on the way to charging retailers instead of commuters. Im sure they will squander that money but I would rather them get some income from someone who isnt the working class commuter or tax dollars to fund whatever it is they do.

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

Right!? I walk through the Oculus every day to and from work, and have started to pay attention to the stores that are getting ready to open. I had hoped it would be something along the lines of Grand Central - higher end, yes, but accessible - O & Co., Papyrus. I'm really surprised to see the stores in the Oculus - Kate Spade, Gucci, Longines, etc. I agree - PA (or is it Westfield's decision) seems to have paid zero attention to the demographics of the PATH riders.

I'm curious what other people think - is this supposed to become a destination for the surrounding Wall Street crowd?

I hope it all flops and Westfield loses tons of money.

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

Right!? I walk through the Oculus every day to and from work, and have started to pay attention to the stores that are getting ready to open. I had hoped it would be something along the lines of Grand Central - higher end, yes, but accessible - O & Co., Papyrus. I'm really surprised to see the stores in the Oculus - Kate Spade, Gucci, Longines, etc. I agree - PA (or is it Westfield's decision) seems to have paid zero attention to the demographics of the PATH riders.

I'm curious what other people think - is this supposed to become a destination for the surrounding Wall Street crowd?

Wishful_Thinking wrote:

I guess we should look on the bright side - if this latest play pen for Manhattan's 1%'ers is a success, maybe the Calatrava money pit won't be as big a fiasco, and further drag down PATH with it!

Voyeur wrote:
Wall Streeters should be pulling out their Amex Centurion cards for next Tuesday, when the first of the stores are scheduled to open.

http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/westfiel ... -for-wtc-shopping-center/

The only kind of cards us JC scabs will be expected to pull out are our Metrocards...

Voyeur wrote:
Wall Streeters should be pulling out their Amex Centurion cards for next Tuesday, when the first of the stores are scheduled to open.

http://nypost.com/2016/08/10/westfiel ... -for-wtc-shopping-center/

The only kind of cards us JC scabs will be expected to pull out are our Metrocards...

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I work in Brookfield Place, and yeah - it's been transformed into a high-end mall full of overpriced crap. I got to talking with a woman who works at for Kate Spade, and she was saying that locations like that aren't designed to make money - they're just showcases and good addresses.

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

Right!? I walk through the Oculus every day to and from work, and have started to pay attention to the stores that are getting ready to open. I had hoped it would be something along the lines of Grand Central - higher end, yes, but accessible - O & Co., Papyrus. I'm really surprised to see the stores in the Oculus - Kate Spade, Gucci, Longines, etc. I agree - PA (or is it Westfield's decision) seems to have paid zero attention to the demographics of the PATH riders.

I'm curious what other people think - is this supposed to become a destination for the surrounding Wall Street crowd?

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

Right!? I walk through the Oculus every day to and from work, and have started to pay attention to the stores that are getting ready to open. I had hoped it would be something along the lines of Grand Central - higher end, yes, but accessible - O & Co., Papyrus. I'm really surprised to see the stores in the Oculus - Kate Spade, Gucci, Longines, etc. I agree - PA (or is it Westfield's decision) seems to have paid zero attention to the demographics of the PATH riders.

I'm curious what other people think - is this supposed to become a destination for the surrounding Wall Street crowd?

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

Right!? I walk through the Oculus every day to and from work, and have started to pay attention to the stores that are getting ready to open. I had hoped it would be something along the lines of Grand Central - higher end, yes, but accessible - O & Co., Papyrus. I'm really surprised to see the stores in the Oculus - Kate Spade, Gucci, Longines, etc. I agree - PA (or is it Westfield's decision) seems to have paid zero attention to the demographics of the PATH riders.

I'm curious what other people think - is this supposed to become a destination for the surrounding Wall Street crowd?

bodhipooh wrote:

Why would you think the PA will complete this project by the stated deadline? Call me jaded, but I am very much inclined to believe this will continue well into 2017. But, I guess time will tell.

JCishome wrote:
I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

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My wife and I tried to get back to WTC on the 14th st. shuttle Saturday night. We waited 20 minutes in line and then nobody was able to get on because it was too full. There was a shuttle rep there, but he didn't have any information on when the next shuttle would arrive or if it would have enough space to get on it. We gave up and got a Uber after that waste of time, I have less of a problem spending the $ when I am frustrated and pissed off.

Judging by the permanent looking PATH shuttle signs on the bus poles, this is already planned to last more than 4 months.

I don't know how many times I have to say the same thing, but right from the beginning it was announced that there will be closures in 2017. This is NOT just a 4 month thing.

geniusofthecrowd wrote:
My wife and I tried to get back to WTC on the 14th st. shuttle Saturday night. We waited 20 minutes in line and then nobody was able to get on because it was too full. There was a shuttle rep there, but he didn't have any information on when the next shuttle would arrive or if it would have enough space to get on it. We gave up and got a Uber after that waste of time, I have less of a problem spending the $ when I am frustrated and pissed off.

Judging by the permanent looking PATH shuttle signs on the bus poles, this is already planned to last more than 4 months.

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So, they have to close parts of the system to make repairs...fine.

The problem with PATH is they could do more, but they choose not to. There is too much time between buses and they are packed. The solution? Run more buses. However PATH will choose not to do this.

Have you ever ridden the 33rd to JSQ train around 8pm?

Does PATH care? No. Could they run trains more frequently than 10-12 minutes apart? Yes. Will they do it? No.

I don't think the answer is to "deal with it."

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I've spent plenty of time looking around at my fellow PATH riders, and that's why I'm not buying the theory that the PA wants us walking by those ritzy new shops. Most of us won't be stopping by to pick up a Bulgari watch on our way to Lincoln Center.

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There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

And I can't believe anyone would let a $2.75 subway fare ruin their weekend plans and then complain about it. Buses, even in the best of circumstances, will always be far slower than subways and carry far fewer people. Seriously, did people actually think these magic buses would actually be a sufficient substitute for the speed and efficiency of underground transport? My doctor's offices are around 1st Ave., and I've noticed I can usually WALK faster than the crosstown bus.

Well, maybe some people paying $2.75 each way ($5.50 per day) cuts into their budget. It may seem like chump change to you, but for others...not so much.

It's not every day. It's two days out of the week - so $11. I have a lot of sympathy if it's someone making minimum wage having to get to/from work. But let's face it, that's probably not the demographic that's kvetching on JC List. The JC List demographic is one that is preoccupied with the type of bar that opens up downtown or the design of a parking deck at Whole Foods. Chances are they were going into Manhattan to play and if you have the means to spend leisure time/dollars in Manhattan, $5.50 round trip is nothing. It won't even buy a cocktail.

First of all, I'm amazed on how much you can tell about the rest of us on this site. I guess in your logic, people on this site and too poor to login and express their concerns. There are people who ride the PATH and adding an extra fare does adversely affect their cash flow. I guess they should just "deal with it". Maybe you should just look around at your fellow riders and see how many of them this could be affecting. Just because you dismiss them doesn't make it untrue.