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JadedJC wrote:
There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

And I can't believe anyone would let a $2.75 subway fare ruin their weekend plans and then complain about it. Buses, even in the best of circumstances, will always be far slower than subways and carry far fewer people. Seriously, did people actually think these magic buses would actually be a sufficient substitute for the speed and efficiency of underground transport? My doctor's offices are around 1st Ave., and I've noticed I can usually WALK faster than the crosstown bus.

Well, maybe some people paying $2.75 each way ($5.50 per day) cuts into their budget. It may seem like chump change to you, but for others...not so much.

It's not every day. It's two days out of the week - so $11. I have a lot of sympathy if it's someone making minimum wage having to get to/from work. But let's face it, that's probably not the demographic that's kvetching on JC List. The JC List demographic is one that is preoccupied with the type of bar that opens up downtown or the design of a parking deck at Whole Foods. Chances are they were going into Manhattan to play and if you have the means to spend leisure time/dollars in Manhattan, $5.50 round trip is nothing. It won't even buy a cocktail.

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JadedJC wrote:
There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

And I can't believe anyone would let a $2.75 subway fare ruin their weekend plans and then complain about it. Buses, even in the best of circumstances, will always be far slower than subways and carry far fewer people. Seriously, did people actually think these magic buses would actually be a sufficient substitute for the speed and efficiency of underground transport? My doctor's offices are around 1st Ave., and I've noticed I can usually WALK faster than the crosstown bus.

Well, maybe some people paying $2.75 each way ($5.50 per day) cuts into their budget. It may seem like chump change to you, but for others...not so much.

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JadedJC wrote:
There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

And I can't believe anyone would let a $2.75 subway fare ruin their weekend plans and then complain about it. Buses, even in the best of circumstances, will always be far slower than subways and carry far fewer people. Seriously, did people actually think these magic buses would actually be a sufficient substitute for the speed and efficiency of underground transport? My doctor's offices are around 1st Ave., and I've noticed I can usually WALK faster than the crosstown bus.

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JadedJC wrote:
There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

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does anyone else find it way too coincidental that they timed this weekend service change at the same time the shops are opening at the WTC station/Fulton Center?

H'm, let's see.

The tunnels were extensively damaged by Sandy in 2012, resulting in a need to devise multi-year plans for repairs. This included closing the WTC tunnel on weekends for much of 2014. PA also has to meet a federal mandate to install positive train control by 2018.

Yes, obviously those devious fiends engineered a hurricane, a federal mandate and two major tunnel closures to... boost the number of people walking past a bunch of stores, in a facility that PA leases to someone else.

You should have gone with your first instinct. Please put the tin-foil hat away.

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I may need to put my tinfoil hat away, but does anyone else find it way too coincidental that they timed this weekend service change at the same time the shops are opening at the WTC station/Fulton Center? It's basically funneling weekend shopping traffic directly through the station during the heart of the holiday shopping season. I mean, ridership is lighter during the summer isn't it? Why not start earlier in the season?

Also, they closed the other exit further down on Vesey Street, which forces you to walk through the station shopping area. Now, there may be a perfectly good explanation for this, but seems a little fishy to me.

JCbiscuit wrote:
There are few phrases in the English language more obnoxious than "get over it."

Bike_Lane wrote:
When this "round" is done, will there be closures between Grove-Newport-Hoboken to install PTC along that segment? I think during the WTC and current 33rd closures, service has continued to run on this segment. Will they have to shut it down at some point?

JadedJC wrote:
There was a long line at WTC just to get a stupid voucher to get on the shuttle bus. I had to get to work and life is too short. I just sucked it up and paid the $2.75 subway fare to get to Midtown. Get over it. I think most people will simply come to the conclusion that it's far less painful to cough up the subway fare. It's not like you're being forced to do this on weekdays. The shitty part isn't having to pay the extra fare, but figuring out which subway lines are operating on weekends because the MTA also has a boatload of service disruptions.

itgirl wrote:
does anyone else find it way too coincidental that they timed this weekend service change at the same time the shops are opening at the WTC station/Fulton Center?

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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.

Why would you think the PA will complete this project by the stated deadline?

itgirl wrote:
I may need to put my tinfoil hat away, but does anyone else find it way too coincidental that they timed this weekend service change at the same time the shops are opening at the WTC station/Fulton Center? It's basically funneling weekend shopping traffic directly through the station during the heart of the holiday shopping season. I mean, ridership is lighter during the summer isn't it? Why not start earlier in the season?

Also, they closed the other exit further down on Vesey Street, which forces you to walk through the station shopping area. Now, there may be a perfectly good explanation for this, but seems a little fishy to me.

itgirl wrote:
I may need to put my tinfoil hat away, but does anyone else find it way too coincidental that they timed this weekend service change at the same time the shops are opening at the WTC station/Fulton Center? It's basically funneling weekend shopping traffic directly through the station during the heart of the holiday shopping season. I mean, ridership is lighter during the summer isn't it? Why not start earlier in the season?

Also, they closed the other exit further down on Vesey Street, which forces you to walk through the station shopping area. Now, there may be a perfectly good explanation for this, but seems a little fishy to me.

JCbiscuit wrote:
I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.

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JCbiscuit wrote:
I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.

Have you ever heard of the New York City Subway?


Yes, I know it sucks that you'll have to pay an extra fare, but for getting around New York City, nothing beats the Subway.

And give the PA a break on this one. Over a hundred years ago, it was decided to build a two track system throughout what is now PATH. They are trying to perform a major upgrade, there is no "good time" to do this, so they picked the least bad "bad time." Grow up and help yourself.

JCbiscuit wrote:
I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.

JCbiscuit wrote:
I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.

JCbiscuit wrote:
I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.

foshizigity00 wrote:
hopefully ya don't need to go into the city over the weekend...

third_street_hats wrote:
F'ing brilliant from the PA again:

PATH will not run extra WTC-NWK trains on weekends. WTC-NWK trains will continue to operate on their normal 20-minute weekend schedule.

However, there will be a ?new? WTC-JSQ line that will run every 12 minutes. This line does not show up on their new map or brochures and they refer to it as an ?unscheduled? line to accommodate ridership on an as needed basis. (They mention this around the 15-minute mark in the first video. You?ll want to crank up your speakers as the audio is very low).

A WTC-Hoboken line will run every 12 minutes as well as a new JSQ-Hoboken line. Basically, if you live in Hoboken, you?re in really good shape.