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the next 4 quarterly bills are already online. find yours here:
http://taxes.cityofjerseycity.com/

i checked and mine went up 2.85% (sum of last 4 quarters vs. sum of next 4 quarters). not sure why the headline is "no increase", can someone enlighten us (municipal vs. county/school)???


Just checked mine and went up almost 4.16%!!! What gives?! Grrrr.


This happened: http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ike_taxes_in_seven_t.html

Only around 50% of your taxes are City taxes. The rest is Hudson County and school tax.

The County tax bill went up 4.2%. And given the numbers game played with equalization - Jersey City's portion of the County tax bill went up 10.15%. (It's actually down to the fact that JC property values increased more relative to other munis within Hudson County). IMO It's also down to the fact that we've too many layers of government in NJ - and the public doesn't hold them fully accountable for spending.


Need to compare apples to apples. To compare 2015 vs 2016 simplest way is to divide Q1 2017 by Q1 2016. Should give you a number like 1.02927 = a 2.93% year-on-year increase. Remember the increase applies to full year 2016.


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the next 4 quarterly bills are already online. find yours here:
http://taxes.cityofjerseycity.com/

i checked and mine went up 2.85% (sum of last 4 quarters vs. sum of next 4 quarters). not sure why the headline is "no increase", can someone enlighten us (municipal vs. county/school)???


Just checked mine and went up almost 4.16%!!! What gives?! Grrrr.


This happened: http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ike_taxes_in_seven_t.html

Only around 50% of your taxes are City taxes. The rest is Hudson County and school tax.

The County tax bill went up 4.2%. And given the numbers game played with equalization - Jersey City's portion of the County tax bill went up 10.15%. (It's actually down to the fact that JC property values increased more relative to other munis within Hudson County). IMO It's also down to the fact that we've too many layers of government in NJ - and the public doesn't hold them fully accountable for spending.


In that case, how come people are getting different rates of increase? My assessment hasn't changed...

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Taxes are due August 26th, 2016

Bills are being mailed.

I called the Tax Office.

( same as last August )

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Has anyone received an actual bill in the mail yet? Has there been any info regarding when payments will actually be due since it's already Aug 1 today?

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You'll have to vote Republican if you want lower taxes.


The numbers don't really bear that out if you compare 04-09 with 09-14. Though I think a Buono admin would have produced some pretty horrific taxes increases.

http://www.njspotlight.com/stories/15/01/29/property-taxes/

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re:county taxes-I wonder how many other Hudson County Democrats have no-show jobs like Chico had, and what they cost?

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You'll have to vote Republican if you want lower taxes.

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the next 4 quarterly bills are already online. find yours here:
http://taxes.cityofjerseycity.com/

i checked and mine went up 2.85% (sum of last 4 quarters vs. sum of next 4 quarters). not sure why the headline is "no increase", can someone enlighten us (municipal vs. county/school)???


Just checked mine and went up almost 4.16%!!! What gives?! Grrrr.


This happened: http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ike_taxes_in_seven_t.html

Only around 50% of your taxes are City taxes. The rest is Hudson County and school tax.

The County tax bill went up 4.2%. And given the numbers game played with equalization - Jersey City's portion of the County tax bill went up 10.15%. (It's actually down to the fact that JC property values increased more relative to other munis within Hudson County). IMO It's also down to the fact that we've too many layers of government in NJ - and the public doesn't hold them fully accountable for spending.

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the next 4 quarterly bills are already online. find yours here:
http://taxes.cityofjerseycity.com/

i checked and mine went up 2.85% (sum of last 4 quarters vs. sum of next 4 quarters). not sure why the headline is "no increase", can someone enlighten us (municipal vs. county/school)???


Just checked mine and went up almost 4.16%!!! What gives?! Grrrr.

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So are they due August 1, 2016 or a little later like last August?

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No money goes to the schools from tax abatements and the county gets 5% based on 1988 reval figures. Of course those budget go up.

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i checked and mine went up 2.85% (sum of last 4 quarters vs. sum of next 4 quarters). not sure why the headline is "no increase", can someone enlighten us (municipal vs. county/school)???


Yes, county and school taxes went up.

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I attended the budget hearing. First, the ratable base has now increased to the point we should have a tax decrease, not a stabilized budget. On top of that, the county and school is going up. JC does impact those budget. Only 5% of tax abatements go there and that budget went up over 8% and the school board bonding cost went up nearly 40%. The schools receive nothing from tax abatements. As an example, 25 Senate Place a new tax abated building is only paying $130,000 to the budget this year. It has 266 units. My building, with less units, several blocks away pays over $2 million in taxes.


The giant increase in the ratable base means that JC can assume more of its own tax burden rather than bleed the suburbs. JC won't get a tax cut, when its taking almost a half billion dollars a year in school aid. Everyone should pay their fair share.

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the next 4 quarterly bills are already online. find yours here:
http://taxes.cityofjerseycity.com/

i checked and mine went up 2.85% (sum of last 4 quarters vs. sum of next 4 quarters). not sure why the headline is "no increase", can someone enlighten us (municipal vs. county/school)???

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I am assuming our taxes are not due August 1, 2016 is that true?

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I attended the budget hearing. First, the ratable base has now increased to the point we should have a tax decrease, not a stabilized budget. On top of that, the county and school is going up. JC does impact those budget. Only 5% of tax abatements go there and that budget went up over 8% and the school board bonding cost went up nearly 40%. The schools receive nothing from tax abatements. As an example, 25 Senate Place a new tax abated building is only paying $130,000 to the budget this year. It has 266 units. My building, with less units, several blocks away pays over $2 million in taxes.

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Jersey City Council unanimously passes $571M budget with little excitement

HUDSON COUNTY VIEW - July 21, 2016 - Jersey City, News - Written by

A special budget meeting for the Jersey City Council saw the governing body pass a $571M budget without many surprises or much excitement last night.

After City Clerk Robert Byrne gave a 30-minute monologue reading each line item and it’s changes, the totaled general appropriations for the city  was $570,918,095, with an anticipated surplus of $20,745,651 to add to next year’s budget.

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Jersey City has increased spending 25% since 2012, an average of well over 6%, and beyond the cost of inflation.

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When the budget was introduced earlier this year it was $553 million now that it is being adopted, it is $571, it swelled up another $18 million. Fulop's budget in 3 years has increased $84 million in spending since the last Healy budget. Fulop has lucked out that some of the tax abatements under Schundler expired raising up the ratable base. The higher the ratable base the lower the taxes. But in this case it cover the higher spending. All of the money and the city is still bonding for terminal leave. What ever happened to Fulop's promise to zero based budgeting?

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Not every new building that goes up is tax abated. There are some awfully generous abatements, but several large projects that are not. So while the ratable base may be going up largely because of expiring tax abatements there are also new buildings going up that have the short term 5 year abatements that apply to all new developments.

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Jersey City council to adopt $571M budget

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JERSEY CITY — The City Council is scheduled to adopt the $571 million 2016 city budget at a special meeting on Wednesday.

The annual spending plan comes with no tax increase for the third year in a row, which Mayor Steve Fulop in a statement said his administration is "extremely proud of.

"And we are doing it while hiring 150 new police officers and increasing park space by more than 10 percent," Fulop said.

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i thought that i would move these comments here, were it better belongs -

while I think that this comment belongs better on the thread about the 2016 budget and if it was about fairness, the mua over payment should have been refunded to the payer, which includes tax abated properties. but, by instead transferring the funds into the budget and thereby reducing the amount of money needed to be raised by taxes, it only benefits property owners that pay conventional taxes and who would otherwise pay a property tax increase if this action was not done.

so, since none of the over payment is shared with those residents of tax abated homes, a greater benefit goes to those who pay conventional taxes. its like clawing back a little money from the tax abated properties.

like stalling on the property tax revaluation, it is not equitable, but you and I benefit.

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Now that Fulop is giving $15.00 to low wage earners, perhaps he can return our MUA overpayment, which is $31.5 million and stop the 3.75 increase in water and 3.75 increase in sewer rates for the following years. These are annual perpetual increases. If he is going to be generous, then remember the people who pay into the MUA.


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well the 2016 budget has been proposed and can be found here - http://www.jerseycitynj.gov/officialdocuments/

the budget continues to grow. yes, revenue is growing, though not through ratables as claimed (the increasing ratables are due to expiring tax abatements,) and the new growth is fueled by long term tax abatements.

there are no signs of rolling back the alleged bloated budgets of the prior administration, i guess they were valid. cost savings and modernizing are non-existant. budget and fiscal reforms have continued to be ignored, and where after much foot dragging, services that have been consolidated with the Parking Authority and Incinerator Authority, the savings has been less than projected and squandered on political machinations. were they done in name only? insurance procurement reforms that would also put insurance under pay to play protection (best price insurance) were dropped like a hot potato two years ago, why?

JCMUA over payments, instead of being returned to those who paid it, were taken by the city to fund the bloated budget and were a back door tax increase.

city maintenance remains dismal outside of the park renovations that started with the prior administration and have now been rolled out throughout the city.

my pet interest - our libraries which impact education and are a place for homework and internet access continue having very limited evening and weekend hours (Sunday is non-existent.)

city services are not being delivered to residents via the internet. social media is not a substitute for a robust city website. its no easier to access information and the city is more tight lipped than ever.

now the city is increasing the base pay for city workers to $15 per hour. sounds good, maybe something that should be done in steps, but when the city continues to not be able to provide basic services and maintenance, is that where our money should be going?

the administration finally acknowledged that the property tax revaluation must done, but now throws a red herring into the mix to further delay the inevitable and necessary.

is jersey city just a paper tiger?

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I wonder if there are any unintended consequences of raising these worker's salaries by such a high percentage. Let's say they are on public assistance/food stamps, NJFamily Care, receive an earned income tax credit, or live in low-income housing. Their income has almost been doubled. While it's still a low income, I wonder if this increase will forfeit other entitlements they receive?

This may be a good thing - but sometimes the margin is so slight between eligibility and non-eligibility that the individual may be paying more out of pocket than when they were making minimum wage.


Excellent points, jerseymom.

With regards to EIC, if it is a CHILDLESS single adult, or married couple, they would be ineligible for the benefit due to salary qualifications, which are really low ($14,340 for an individual, $19,680 for a couple). For a family, it depends on whether or not it is a single earning household. If both are employed full time by the city, they would be ineligible because they would surpass the income limits.

The same is true of NJFamily Care, but that one is based on previous year federal tax returns, so they may have more time to plan accordingly to ensure they maintain eligibility.

I wonder if social services groups are actively educating people on these type of matters. I can see some people not realizing that these minimum wage raises will prevent them from enjoying other benefits that may be equally, or more, important.

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I wonder if there are any unintended consequences of raising these worker's salaries by such a high percentage. Let's say they are on public assistance/food stamps, NJFamily Care, receive an earned income tax credit, or live in low-income housing. Their income has almost been doubled. While it's still a low income, I wonder if this increase will forfeit other entitlements they receive?

This may be a good thing - but sometimes the margin is so slight between eligibility and non-eligibility that the individual may be paying more out of pocket than when they were making minimum wage.


Really good points...

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I wonder if there are any unintended consequences of raising these worker's salaries by such a high percentage. Let's say they are on public assistance/food stamps, NJFamily Care, receive an earned income tax credit, or live in low-income housing. Their income has almost been doubled. While it's still a low income, I wonder if this increase will forfeit other entitlements they receive?

This may be a good thing - but sometimes the margin is so slight between eligibility and non-eligibility that the individual may be paying more out of pocket than when they were making minimum wage.

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well the 2016 budget has been proposed and can be found here - http://www.jerseycitynj.gov/officialdocuments/

the budget continues to grow. yes, revenue is growing, though not through ratables as claimed (the increasing ratables are due to expiring tax abatements,) and the new growth is fueled by long term tax abatements.

there are no signs of rolling back the alleged bloated budgets of the prior administration, i guess they were valid. cost savings and modernizing are non-existant. budget and fiscal reforms have continued to be ignored, and where after much foot dragging, services that have been consolidated with the Parking Authority and Incinerator Authority, the savings has been less than projected and squandered on political machinations. were they done in name only? insurance procurement reforms that would also put insurance under pay to play protection (best price insurance) were dropped like a hot potato two years ago, why?

JCMUA over payments, instead of being returned to those who paid it, were taken by the city to fund the bloated budget and were a back door tax increase.

city maintenance remains dismal outside of the park renovations that started with the prior administration and have now been rolled out throughout the city.

my pet interest - our libraries which impact education and are a place for homework and internet access continue having very limited evening and weekend hours (Sunday is non-existent.)

city services are not being delivered to residents via the internet. social media is not a substitute for a robust city website. its no easier to access information and the city is more tight lipped than ever.

now the city is increasing the base pay for city workers to $15 per hour. sounds good, maybe something that should be done in steps, but when the city continues to not be able to provide basic services and maintenance, is that where our money should be going?

the administration finally acknowledged that the property tax revaluation must done, but now throws a red herring into the mix to further delay the inevitable and necessary.

is jersey city just a paper tiger?

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The statement, "The budget will include $95 million in additional tax ratables," means some tax abatements given out in the past must have expired because current tax abatements are contracts not ratables. The only thing that will stabilize our taxes are the expiration of tax abatements. These were probably the tax abatements that Schundler gave out which were usually 20 years in length.


Port Liberté's PILOT expired last year.

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The statement, "The budget will include $95 million in additional tax ratables," means some tax abatements given out in the past must have expired because current tax abatements are contracts not ratables. The only thing that will stabilize our taxes are the expiration of tax abatements. These were probably the tax abatements that Schundler gave out which were usually 20 years in length.

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Fulop: no tax hike in 2016 Jersey City budget

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JERSEY CITY — Mayor Steve Fulop plans to introduce a 2016 municipal budget that comes with no tax increase, his office announced today.

If formally adopted by the City Council, it would represent the third year in a row the city has crafted a spending plan with no tax hike. In a statement, Fulop noted that municipal taxes are set to remain flat "despite rising costs."

"Our goal is to be responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars, which means growing the tax base to not increase the burden on residents, while at the same time improving services and the quality of life," Fulop said.

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