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Now this is explains the odd comments on this thread ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXczsp_Z2M

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Your PC Principal is baaaaccckkk! Beware all you non conformists or he will kick your ass1

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Might" may be the understatement of the year. Always a positive to see the DOJ stepping in to swing their big stick.
One way or the other, this country is going to be dragged into the 21st century so we can join the rest of the civilized world when come to treating people equally. Those that disagree will, in my opinion, find themselves on the wrong side of history.[/quote]


Interesting comment challenging America's tolerance.... where exactly is the "rest of the civilized world" you propose we join... it certainly is not the Muslim Countries you are referring too? Being gay is minimally a prison sentence, if not death. Russia, China, The African continent? South America? It can't be Western Europe because that culture has contributed nothing but pain, repression, death and destruction from the crusades. So where is the civilized world? Please enlighten us?

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Pretty funny South Park bit... some of you SJWs on this thread might get offended, the rest of you can sit back and enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrpwnEpKQ3Q





Anyone using the SJW pejorative tends to be a trog. Why don't you go harass women in gaming or something.



Wow... very cutting comment, Trog... did you think that up yourself? So which of the Fascist Frat boys are you in the SP video? It's funny none of SWJs commented on this brilliant satire. Its not to hard to understand that the title of Campus Asshole has shifted from the Jock/Musclehead Frats to the self entitled SJWs. It is not surprising that your narrow mind found only my comment to be pejorative.

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It must be pretty tough to be a bigot these days....

You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.


Just curious, do you agree with her or just not understand what a bigot is?

I know the meaning of the word bigot even prior to the definition posted in this thread. I really think this is a safety issue and of course an ethical one as well. So in answer to your question yes. I join those that are in agreement with Yvonne whether they know her or not. Perhaps a more forgiving solution would be to let those use restroom facilities that match their tools of nature they are currently equipped with.


Okay, so you agree with Yvonne. You are entitled to your opinion. How exactly do you intend to enforce this sort of policy? Do peoples' genitals need to be checked at the door of each public restroom before they can enter? Yvonne has not answered this question, maybe you can.

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So why not make all bathrooms unisex? This solves the problem in a cleaner way.

You've obviously not put much thought into what you've written.


It should be fairly easy to counter my point then.

indecent exposure laws... urinals... cost analysis... etc. Think.

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So why not make all bathrooms unisex? This solves the problem in a cleaner way.

You've obviously not put much thought into what you've written.


It should be fairly easy to counter my point then.

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So why not make all bathrooms unisex? This solves the problem in a cleaner way.

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I think pebble's posts in this thread may have created a misleading impression. The pictures pebble posted are not typical or representative, many transsexual people are unable to "pass" as their desired sex despite their best efforts.

It is the folks who are unable to pass that the laws are designed to protect, the people in the photos upstream are not going to have problems using bathrooms as nobody will know anything about it.

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Is your complaint that the bathroom will now be occupied by ugly people?

I posted photos of real transgender people. It is true that they are attractive. However, the last time I checked, I have shared the bathroom with a lot of people that are not at all attractive. It happens.

More than likely those that you say are ?unable to pass? are really just ugly people?
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"might" may be the understatement of the year. Always a positive to see the DOJ stepping in to swing their big stick.

One way or the other, this country is going to be dragged into the 21st century so we can join the rest of the civilized world when come to treating people equally. Those that disagree will, in my opinion, find themselves on the wrong side of history.

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Pretty funny South Park bit... some of you SJWs on this thread might get offended, the rest of you can sit back and enjoy.
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Anyone using the SJW pejorative tends to be a trog. Why don't you go harass women in gaming or something.

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sh ... -i-might-be-trouble#break

?North Carolina?s Pat McCrory: ?I might be in trouble??

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Hmmm "Passing" is that not a cultural appropriation??? Speaking of which can not wait to see Cait Jenner, naked, wrapped in an American flag wearing her gold medal for SI's Summer Olympic cover. I caught an episode about week ago where Cait's BTFF suggested that it was time for Cait to make the final cut. The look on Jenner's face is priceless. She shutdown the conversation saying while squirming in her chair that she was not comfortable talking about that topic. Of course the BTFF friend was a little taken back by Cait's response, but then suggested she may need a little more counseling to deal with her worries. A true reality tv moment.

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I think pebble's posts in this thread may have created a misleading impression. The pictures pebble posted are not typical or representative, many transsexual people are unable to "pass" as their desired sex despite their best efforts.

It is of course precisely these folks who are unable to pass that the laws are designed to protect, the people in the photos upstream are not going to have problems using bathrooms as nobody will know anything about it.

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Pretty funny South Park bit... some of you SJWs on this thread might get offended, the rest of you can sit back and enjoy.
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I think pebble's posts in this thread may have created a misleading impression. The pictures pebble posted are not typical or representative, many transsexual people are unable to "pass" as their desired sex despite their best efforts.

It is the folks who are unable to pass that the laws are designed to protect, the people in the photos upstream are not going to have problems using bathrooms as nobody will know anything about it.

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It must be pretty tough to be a bigot these days....

You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.


Just curious, do you agree with her or just not understand what a bigot is?

I know the meaning of the word bigot even prior to the definition posted in this thread. I really think this is a safety issue and of course an ethical one as well. So in answer to your question yes. I join those that are in agreement with Yvonne whether they know her or not. Perhaps a more forgiving solution would be to let those use restroom facilities that match their tools of nature they are currently equipped with.


Oh tools...like their brains?

Hey that's a good one JM I never thought of that. I guess some do use their "best" parts to think with.

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Good luck pretending it's a safety issue when the only people assaulting others since this happened have been other moralizing a**holes.

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It must be pretty tough to be a bigot these days....

You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.


Just curious, do you agree with her or just not understand what a bigot is?

I know the meaning of the word bigot even prior to the definition posted in this thread. I really think this is a safety issue and of course an ethical one as well. So in answer to your question yes. I join those that are in agreement with Yvonne whether they know her or not. Perhaps a more forgiving solution would be to let those use restroom facilities that match their tools of nature they are currently equipped with.


Good luck with defending and agreeing with with someone who claims transgendered people are rapists and claiming that is not hateful.

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It must be pretty tough to be a bigot these days....

You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.


Just curious, do you agree with her or just not understand what a bigot is?

I know the meaning of the word bigot even prior to the definition posted in this thread. I really think this is a safety issue and of course an ethical one as well. So in answer to your question yes. I join those that are in agreement with Yvonne whether they know her or not. Perhaps a more forgiving solution would be to let those use restroom facilities that match their tools of nature they are currently equipped with.


Oh tools...like their brains?

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You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.


Just curious, do you agree with her or just not understand what a bigot is?

I know the meaning of the word bigot even prior to the definition posted in this thread. I really think this is a safety issue and of course an ethical one as well. So in answer to your question yes. I join those that are in agreement with Yvonne whether they know her or not. Perhaps a more forgiving solution would be to let those use restroom facilities that match their tools of nature they are currently equipped with.

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You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.


Just curious, do you agree with her or just not understand what a bigot is?

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bigot noun big?ot \?bi-g?t\ A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance. truth noun \?tr?th\ a (1) : the state of being the case : fact (2) : the body of real things, events, and facts : actuality (3) often capitalized : a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality b : a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true c : the body of true statements and propositions

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Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

I think bigot is the wrong term being used or being used incorrectly. It does not apply here. Quit sensationalizing the truth and making a mockery of being ethical.

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And it's a good thing. The more ignorance and bigotry is highlighted, argued against and ridiculed, the more awareness there is of the issue and the faster change occurs.

An occasional outspoken bigot like Yvonne is a good thing in that it provides an opposing voice.


That rings true. No one--even a racist--wants to be called racist any more because such belief has been condemned thoroughly. The label, homophobic is gaining a similar status. I think that once you are a bigot, you will always a bigot, but they will eventually start whispering their bigotry rather than announcing on public forum.

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And it's a good thing. The more ignorance and bigotry is highlighted, argued against and ridiculed, the more awareness there is of the issue and the faster change occurs.

An occasional outspoken bigot like Yvonne is a good thing in that it provides an opposing voice.

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You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Nobody is doing any such thing. Yvonne is free to think anything she wants. That doesn't mean people have to accept her thoughts or ideas. In fact, no one should accept ANY of her ideas, but that's a different topic.

What people are doing (more frequently, and in many more topics, thankfully) is calling her out for her bigoted, ignorant remarks. That's not stifling her "free thinking" but rather people pointing out all that is wrong with her thinking.

Your opinion which you are entitled to. This can go back and forth forever.


No sh*t, sherlock.

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You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Nobody is doing any such thing. Yvonne is free to think anything she wants. That doesn't mean people have to accept her thoughts or ideas. In fact, no one should accept ANY of her ideas, but that's a different topic.

What people are doing (more frequently, and in many more topics, thankfully) is calling her out for her bigoted, ignorant remarks. That's not stifling her "free thinking" but rather people pointing out all that is wrong with her thinking.


Well said.

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Really, you are surprised that people are criticizing a hateful bigot?

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You're right, but it seems there is lots of help out here with everyone bashing Yvonne. I cannot believe how many on this thread are trying to stifle Yvonne's free thinking.


Nobody is doing any such thing. Yvonne is free to think anything she wants. That doesn't mean people have to accept her thoughts or ideas. In fact, no one should accept ANY of her ideas, but that's a different topic.

What people are doing (more frequently, and in many more topics, thankfully) is calling her out for her bigoted, ignorant remarks. That's not stifling her "free thinking" but rather people pointing out all that is wrong with her thinking.

Your opinion which you are entitled to. This can go back and forth forever.

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