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For all the non-believers, here again is the youtube link on transgender men assaulting women in lockerrooms, bathrooms, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwMJAFWLtQ

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You gonna have pervs going into women's stalls and jacking off or worse.
as long as one stays in onein one's own stall jacking off, does it matter. i would think women would want to keep people with penes out of their bathroom since we men will piss all over the floor and leave the seat up.


A real hero, would not make your comment. Men who are in women's restroom and decides to pleasure themselves do not belong in women's restroom, they belong in prison.
if they are pleasuring themselves in their own stall and in no way bothering anyone else, why do you care? it's a different story if they are crawling under the stall or something.


It is called baby steps, first they are in their stalls next they enter the woman's stall. Men are who "peeping toms" do not remain in that status. They are outside the homes, but when the thrilled is gone, they are inside the homes committing rapes.


You've been watching some really interesting porn, Yvonne, you sly devil!

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/20 ... om_predators_cis_men.html

"For anyone who?s looked into the data behind the trans bathroom predator myth currently gripping our nation, this won?t come as a surprise. There are no confirmed, true cases of trans women (or men) accosting anyone in public restrooms. (If anything, it?s trans folks who live in fear of being attacked or bullied in those spaces, among many others.) Indeed, as the Breitbart post so helpfully demonstrates, it is cisgender men who we should all be fearing in the loo?and, contra the gross fearmongering about ?men in dresses? out to get ?little girls,? this sampling of cases shows that real predators are fairly equal opportunity in terms of the gender of their victims.

Moreover, though it?s been said many times before, let?s say it again: Assaulting people in the bathroom is already illegal, and if a cis man (or anyone!) wants to put on a dress to do it in Target or anywhere else, he should be appropriately dealt with by law enforcement. Ensuring that trans people have the baseline protection of being able to relieve themselves with dignity will do nothing to change that. It will only make a group of people who face a general onslaught of discrimination throughout their lives feel a tiny bit more secure."

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The very last thing a trans person wants to do in 99.9% of cases is attract unwanted attention to themselves by behaving badly in a public restroom...

Its not like the public bathroom is a social club. People go in to do what nature requires, clean up and get out.


The exception is Yvonne, with her extensive knowledge of what Trans people are doing she must be spending an inordinate amount of time hanging around public restrooms.
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Your true agenda is coming out. You have no problem entering a women's public restroom and engaging in activities that would frighten the average female.

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The very last thing a trans person wants to do in 99.9% of cases is attract unwanted attention to themselves by behaving badly in a public restroom...

Its not like the public bathroom is a social club. People go in to do what nature requires, clean up and get out.


The exception is Yvonne, with her extensive knowledge of what Trans people are doing she must be spending an inordinate amount of time hanging around public restrooms.


Not to mention her exhaustive research that has concluded that peeping Toms eventually move on to become rapists. Just her latest "change the subject" tactic, pulled straight out of her ass.

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The very last thing a trans person wants to do in 99.9% of cases is attract unwanted attention to themselves by behaving badly in a public restroom...

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The exception is Yvonne, with her extensive knowledge of what Trans people are doing she must be spending an inordinate amount of time hanging around public restrooms.
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The very last thing a trans person wants to do in 99.9% of cases is attract unwanted attention to themselves by behaving badly in a public restroom...

Its not like the public bathroom is a social club. People go in to do what nature requires, clean up and get out.


The exception is Yvonne, with her extensive knowledge of what Trans people are doing she must be spending an inordinate amount of time hanging around public restrooms.

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Its not like the public bathroom is a social club. People go in to do what nature requires, clean up and get out.
are you sure the bathroom is not a social club. when i was in thailand, women followed me into the men's room on several occassions and none of the other men seemed to mind.

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The very last thing a trans person wants to do in 99.9% of cases is attract unwanted attention to themselves by behaving badly in a public restroom...

Its not like the public bathroom is a social club. People go in to do what nature requires, clean up and get out.

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You gonna have pervs going into women's stalls and jacking off or worse.
as long as one stays in onein one's own stall jacking off, does it matter. i would think women would want to keep people with penes out of their bathroom since we men will piss all over the floor and leave the seat up.


A real hero, would not make your comment. Men who are in women's restroom and decides to pleasure themselves do not belong in women's restroom, they belong in prison.
if they are pleasuring themselves in their own stall and in no way bothering anyone else, why do you care? it's a different story if they are crawling under the stall or something.


It is called baby steps, first they are in their stalls next they enter the woman's stall. Men are who "peeping toms" do not remain in that status. They are outside the homes, but when the thrilled is gone, they are inside the homes committing rapes.

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You gonna have pervs going into women's stalls and jacking off or worse.
as long as one stays in onein one's own stall jacking off, does it matter. i would think women would want to keep people with penes out of their bathroom since we men will piss all over the floor and leave the seat up.


A real hero, would not make your comment. Men who are in women's restroom and decides to pleasure themselves do not belong in women's restroom, they belong in prison.
if they are pleasuring themselves in their own stall and in no way bothering anyone else, why do you care? it's a different story if they are crawling under the stall or something.

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You gonna have pervs going into women's stalls and jacking off or worse.
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A real hero, would not make your comment. Men who are in women's restroom and decides to pleasure themselves do not belong in women's restroom, they belong in prison.

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See the video, the people admit they go into the opposite bathrooms for the thrill of it, not because they are transgender.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/reporters- ... over-as-sexual-predators/


World Net Daily, the news source for every crank and nut. How about an article about chemtrails and lizard people next.

You're a sorry excuse for even the bigot you are.

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You gonna have pervs going into women's stalls and jacking off or worse.

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See the video, the people admit they go into the opposite bathrooms for the thrill of it, not because they are transgender.
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You have to realize that if some freak goes into the women's bathroom, all eyes will be on them. They won't be able to molest anyone because everyone will be looking at them.

If they try to make a move, the women can scream and a man can come and beat the pervert up. That's why you are overreacting, and this is much ado over nothing.

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See the video, the people admit they go into the opposite bathrooms for the thrill of it, not because they are transgender.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/reporters- ... over-as-sexual-predators/

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more importantly, who is becky?






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One of my favorites stories is the Emperor New Clothes. It reminds me of the people here. Some sly people tell the emperor that only smart people can see the new clothes, dumb people cannot see the beautiful clothes. Fast forward, only politically correct people believe it is OK to allow predators in females restroom. Those who don't believe is dumb. But a child's voice said the emperor is naked while he paraded on the grounds. Well, I am not a child but simple truth is childlike. anyone who believes this is opening the door to sexual predators.

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more importantly, who is becky?

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You are all a part of the problem by giving this obvious troll attention. Try ignoring her.

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It is obvious that those 2 people you posted look like certain genders and would not get a second look in the restroom.

So why does Target need to qualify the policy to only identity? Currently, males with creepy intentions that enter the women's restroom could be charged for trespassing, breaking and entering, etc. The new policy, will negate those charges because unfortunately the perp can say that is his identity.

Shouldn't the rule just be common sense? If you are transgender, based off your outward appearance, use the corresponding restroom?

Your second paragraph is incorrect. Target's guidelines are not actual rules. They are only making a social statement that counters the bigotry put forward.

A pervy guy trespassing in the women's room certainly could claim to identify as a woman. That doesn't mean that they aren't lying and that they can't be arrested.

Gender identity isn't the same as someone identifying as gay or straight. This is why the argument over the law is so absurd. The fact is, you?ve already been in the bathroom with a transgender individual. You didn?t know it because those that are transgender fall into the category of ?those 2 people you posted look like certain genders and would not get a second look in the restroom.? (I add this with the caveat that not all transgender people turn into attractive people. Then again, we?re all not born attractive so this isn?t something new.)

Your last paragraph has been the laws on the books in just about every location for everywhere. This has only become an issue because North Carolina decided to pass a law stating that people can only use the bathroom of their birth. That is why I posted those photos. According to North Carolina?s law, those people cannot go to the bathroom that, I believe, even you know they should be using.

North Carolina chose to make an issue out of this because the city of Charlotte decided to pass legislation that made it illegal to discriminate against LGBTQ members of the public. They used the concept that Yvonne is pushing, claims of men walking into girls? bathrooms (please note that the use of these specific words is important to their bigoted cause), as the argument because it invokes these ideas of pervy men walking into women?s bathrooms to rape young girls. This is the exact same argument used by politicians to argue against the integration of bathrooms for race.

Lastly, how many times have you been to the mall and seen a mother take her young son into the women?s room or a father take his young daughter into the men?s room? The laws that North Carolina has put in place now make that illegal.

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It is obvious that those 2 people you posted look like certain genders and would not get a second look in the restroom.

So why does Target need to qualify the policy to only identity? Currently, males with creepy intentions that enter the women's restroom could be charged for trespassing, breaking and entering, etc. The new policy, will negate those charges because unfortunately the perp can say that is his identity.

Shouldn't the rule just be common sense? If you are transgender, based off your outward appearance, use the corresponding restroom?


Seems pretty common sense to me. Furthermore, how are you going to enforce any policy that prevents transgenders from using the bathroom that doesn't correspond to their genitalia? Make people show their birth certificates at the door? Conduct a DNA test? I'd love to know Yvonne's answer to that one.

On top of that, if somebody is a pervert and assaults people in restrooms, no policy concerning transgenders using public restrooms will change that. How is the boycott of Target going, I wonder? When I drove by their parking lot yesterday, they seemed pretty busy to me.

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It is obvious that those 2 people you posted look like certain genders and would not get a second look in the restroom.

So why does Target need to qualify the policy to only identity? Currently, males with creepy intentions that enter the women's restroom could be charged for trespassing, breaking and entering, etc. The new policy, will negate those charges because unfortunately the perp can say that is his identity.

Shouldn't the rule just be common sense? If you are transgender, based off your outward appearance, use the corresponding restroom?


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_field_(fiction)

Speaking of common sense, the simple solution is putting force fields that prevent predators and criminals from places they can do crime. All technology is costly, but there are ways to raise money for public safety projects (e.g., bake sales).

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It is obvious that those 2 people you posted look like certain genders and would not get a second look in the restroom.

So why does Target need to qualify the policy to only identity? Currently, males with creepy intentions that enter the women's restroom could be charged for trespassing, breaking and entering, etc. The new policy, will negate those charges because unfortunately the perp can say that is his identity.

Shouldn't the rule just be common sense? If you are transgender, based off your outward appearance, use the corresponding restroom?

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Such as those used in the post you quoted as affirmation of your position...?


Unfortunately, not all of us can turn the other cheek. But the online bullying of those with differing opinions will alienate many people looking to learn both sides of the issues.

You have to admit, this site would be pretty boring if everyone had the same view.

I'm in favor of differing views. For example the thread just below this regarding the 30-hour work week. I consider that to be a topic that requires conversation on both sides.

On this topic, there aren't two sides. There is this guy wanting to use the men's room:
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...and then there are the irrational people that think he should be in the women's room.

There are those that think this woman should be in the women's bathroom:
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...and then there are the irrational people that think she should be in the men's room.

There are those that say those two people should be in the men's and women's rooms, respectively, in order to excrete waste from their bodies and there exists the irrational people that argue that having either of those in the bathroom means they will start raping children.

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Unfortunately, not all of us can turn the other cheek. But the online bullying of those with differing opinions will alienate many people looking to learn both sides of the issues.

You have to admit, this site would be pretty boring if everyone had the same view.

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Oh no! It's another victim! How terrible that the terrible ideas put forward by bigots are called out. I'm so sorry that you can't just have the right wing echo chamber that this website has been return to what it once was.


I'm all for calling out terrible ideas, I'm not for the juvenile words that people wouldn't use in real life.

Such as those used in the post you quoted as affirmation of your position...?

I've asked Yvonne direct questions about specific people that are transgender. Instead of answering them, she posts a link to a disgusting story about someone getting raped in a bathroom. Even the person that started this discussion isn't actually interested in addressing the real people involved. She'd rather create strawman arguments.

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