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Voters see Clinton as the most trustworthy on battling terror:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sh ... thy-battling-terror#break

I hope sanity wins in the end....

Posted on: 2015/11/24 13:52

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Once again you have no idea what you are talking about... they came to the country, over stayed tourist visa and claimed refugee status because they were Chechen. Of course they had no job skills so went on welfare while Mom proceeded to become a very bad shoplifter, because she was caught a few times and had warrants. Of course the brothers were dealing drugs which got them involved as suspects with a triple murder in Waltham. Disillusioned with the lack of more free social services and the criminal justice they just naturally became Muslim terrorists because the payoff of 70 virgins was in their future. Let's talk about their college Chechen buddies now being deported for obstruction of justice. Mom continues to claim they were framed... an all Chechen American family.

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This President and his administration can not even get on the same page about this so called vetting process... is this the same process used to vet millions of illegals already here? Where will these Syrians wait for vetting.. in a camp somewhere in Europe? The Boston Bombers family were also vetted and when they got here, they started to collect free money which they used to buy "crockpots" (Obama reference). BTW the Russians warned us about this sleazy group. There is nothing wrong with protecting American citizens in our own country.

Wow, that?s a lot of cowardice and innuendo there... For one, the Boston Bombers were two brothers. It was basically one guy getting radicalized and then recruiting his brother. That is hardly what I would call a ?group.?

Secondly, the brothers weren?t radicalized prior to coming to the US. The rest of this family is just fine and are, given their comments after the bombing, not in favor of what they did.

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Atsushi can join his countrymen and protest for refugee acceptance in Japan. I guess since they're protesting Japan isn't taking them in now?

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_n ... al_affairs/AJ201511230054

Why would you compare the US to Japan?

Because as part of the global community they should be just as accepting as other countries. Although Japan is financially generous (but behind the US) they basically have walled off their country to all refugees, even those from Asia.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/ ... after-its-citizens-first/

And guess what? Our neighbor to the north, Canada, just elected a very liberal PM. Guess what they just announced? They will take in no single male Syrian refugees!

Posted on: 2015/11/24 0:50

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Ahmed Mohamed And Family Demand $15 Million In Damages And Apology

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Atsushi can join his countrymen and protest for refugee acceptance in Japan. I guess since they're protesting Japan isn't taking them in now?

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_n ... al_affairs/AJ201511230054

Why would you compare the US to Japan?

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Atsushi can join his countrymen and protest for refugee acceptance in Japan. I guess since they're protesting Japan isn't taking them in now?

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_n ... al_affairs/AJ201511230054

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NYPD Commissioner prioritizes guns, not refugees:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-sh ... s-guns-not-refugees#break

?[If] Congress really wants to do something instead of just talking about something, help us out with that terrorist watch list, those thousands of people that can purchase firearms in this country. I?m more worried about them than I am about Syrian refugees to be quite frank with you.

?So if Congress really wants to do something to help the law enforcement community and the American public, let?s start getting serious about doing something that they can actually do something about.?

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Atsushi - is your strategy just to continually spam this thread with stories, many of which add nothing to the conversation, in the hopes of drowning out those you disagree with?

Also, I'm also curious as to your analysis of Japan's stance on the refugees.

Was watching CNN and a muslim woman, I think she was an activist for the Muslim Community, even said why can't Islamic States like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar etc.... take the Syrian Refugees. They are closer, they can shelter them until Syria gets settled and go back to their country to REBUILT. Why must they need to travel thousands of miles only to feel lost in a Christian country etc. She made lots of good points.

I'll look for the video.

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Attacks on American Muslims are growing uglier by the day. It must stop.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a ... e8a6_story.html?tid=sm_tw

How about you listen to this guy:

?America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country,? he said. ?Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.?

Who said that?

President George W. Bush, when he visited the Islamic Center of Washington six days after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001."

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:31

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Worrying about refugees over our involvement in the Middle East is like obsessing over your home security system after you trespass on your neighbor's property. Yes, it makes sense to lock your doors, but it makes even more sense to not mess with others on their home turf.

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Why would we compare the US to Japan? Doesn't make sense.

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Rep. Mo Brooks: Syrian refugees are coming here for 'a paid vacation'

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11 ... -here-for-a-paid-vacation

"Republican Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama, demonstrating once again that the party base has been electing monsters."

The last quote isn't a quote, but an opinion from the author. The same author pushing the poor dead boy-the same boy who wasn't feeing Syria, but had been living for a couple years in safety in Turkey. The boy's father wanted to get to Canada to get his own teeth repaired-the family was in no danger in Turkey. Stupid Wilhelm DeBlasio also trotted out the picture last week. Don't people know this death wasn't a result of fleeing danger in Syria?

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Rep. Mo Brooks: Syrian refugees are coming here for 'a paid vacation'

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11 ... -here-for-a-paid-vacation

"Republican Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama, demonstrating once again that the party base has been electing monsters."

Posted on: 2015/11/23 19:54

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Atsushi - is your strategy just to continually spam this thread with stories, many of which add nothing to the conversation, in the hopes of drowning out those you disagree with?

Also, I'm also curious as to your analysis of Japan's stance on the refugees.

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Graham: Database On Muslim Americans An ?Offense? To Military Members And Families:

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Atsushi, how many Syrian refugees is Japan taking?

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Muslims use social media to oppose Donald Trump?s database:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/muslims-us ... -database?cid=sm_tw_msnbc

Posted on: 2015/11/23 19:02

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al-qaeda thanks te us for helping in supplying it with anti-tank weapons

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you are wasting your time with these people. everything you say goes one ear and out the other.

Common sense is not in their vocabulary. LOL

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Let me repeat, IT IS NOT SYRIANS that is the problem it is the ISIS/ALQUAIDA/OTHER TERRORISTS that will infiltrate SYRIAN REFUGEE STATUS is the problem. It has been proven anyone can make and provide FAKE SYRIAN PASSPORTS it has been said by Syrians in Europe themselves and many posts ago I have posted a European news report video saying the very same thing.

Since it isn't the Syrians, why you are you so scared?

We can't tell who is who. It's not like we can pull up so much as a credit report on someone coming from an area that whipsaws between tyranny and chaos. Is this person a Syrian? Who really knows? Syrians as a whole have been really anti-American. The closest to 'pro American' we have in the region are the Kurds and they aren't fleeing t the USA (they fight).

BTW.. what do we the citizens of the United States get out of letting in a hostile and wholly incompatible people to our shores? What is in it for us (besides placating a need to commit pathological altruism)?

You could however, setup a safe region in Syria for refugees, keeping them in the country. You would have to setup camps for each tribal group. This however, would require putting soldiers on the ground. You risk a situation like we had in Lebanon in 1983.

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Yes, we need to be diligent about our borders and terrorism, however, our priorities around refugees are misguided.

Anyone who has put a reasonable amount of research into ISIS realized that their man priority is not to attack us here but rather to secure land in the Middle East (the caliphate).

If we meddle in the Middle East, like we have in the past and continue to do, ISIS will be more inclined to attack us here. If we leave the Middle East alone as we should, ISIS will focus their efforts on their wars there, which is what they want do to. Let them. We've proven that we don't accomplish anything when we meddle anyway.

Again, we should always be diligent about border control but any competent terrorists will be able to get in if they want. They can come from Mexico.

So the best bang for the buck is to let ISIS focus on its Middle East enemies rather than us.

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It's only you and Asif are scared. Both of you are indenial of these things happening in Jersey City. Unless, you're a terrorist sympathizer like The Feds have said over and over there are a lot of terrorist sympathizers in USA and they are more dangerous than ISIS and Alquaida over seas. LOL

Being aware of these things are happening is not being scared or in fear.

I have no idea what you are attempting to say here. I can only imagine that your cowardice has caused you to tremble to a point that typing out a coherent sentence is not possible.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 18:27

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Let me repeat, IT IS NOT SYRIANS that is the problem it is the ISIS/ALQUAIDA/OTHER TERRORISTS that will infiltrate SYRIAN REFUGEE STATUS is the problem. It has been proven anyone can make and provide FAKE SYRIAN PASSPORTS it has been said by Syrians in Europe themselves and many posts ago I have posted a European news report video saying the very same thing.

Since it isn't the Syrians, why you are you so scared?

We can't tell who is who. It's not like we can pull up so much as a credit report on someone coming from an area that whipsaws between tyranny and chaos. Is this person a Syrian? Who really knows? Syrians as a whole have been really anti-American. The closest to 'pro American' we have in the region are the Kurds and they aren't fleeing t the USA (they fight).

BTW.. what do we the citizens of the United States get out of letting in a hostile and wholly incompatible people to our shores? What is in it for us (besides placating a need to commit pathological altruism)?

You could however, setup a safe region in Syria for refugees, keeping them in the country. You would have to setup camps for each tribal group. This however, would require putting soldiers on the ground. You risk a situation like we had in Lebanon in 1983.

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It's only you and Asif are scared. Both of you are indenial of these things happening in Jersey City. Unless, you're a terrorist sympathizer like The Feds have said over and over there are a lot of terrorist sympathizers in USA and they are more dangerous than ISIS and Alquaida over seas. LOL

Being aware of these things are happening is not being scared or in fear.

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Let me repeat, IT IS NOT SYRIANS that is the problem it is the ISIS/ALQUAIDA/OTHER TERRORISTS that will infiltrate SYRIAN REFUGEE STATUS is the problem. It has been proven anyone can make and provide FAKE SYRIAN PASSPORTS it has been said by Syrians in Europe themselves and many posts ago I have posted a European news report video saying the very same thing.

Since it isn't the Syrians, why you are you so scared?

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Let me repeat, IT IS NOT SYRIANS that is the problem it is the ISIS/ALQUAIDA/OTHER TERRORISTS that will infiltrate SYRIAN REFUGEE STATUS is the problem. It has been proven anyone can make and provide FAKE SYRIAN PASSPORTS it has been said by Syrians in Europe themselves and many posts ago I have posted a European news report video saying the very same thing.

Since it isn't the Syrians, why you are you so scared?

Posted on: 2015/11/23 18:17

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Our own FBI Director testified before Congress that we can't effectively screen the refugees. There is no way to do a background check because our database is pretty much blank.

No data = no screening.

https://youtu.be/5HZ4A7YGKl4

let's try again... How many of those Syrian refugees were involved in the bombing?

So far two refugees were involved with one having claimed himself to be from Syria. Where they are from exactly? Who knows... in a failed state filled with fake passports, the "refugees", most of whom are military age males, cannot be screened.

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Let me repeat, IT IS NOT SYRIANS that is the problem it is the ISIS/ALQUAIDA/OTHER TERRORISTS that will infiltrate SYRIAN REFUGEE STATUS is the problem. It has been proven anyone can make and provide FAKE SYRIAN PASSPORTS it has been said by Syrians in Europe themselves and many posts ago I have posted a European news report video saying the very same thing.

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Our own FBI Director testified before Congress that we can't effectively screen the refugees. There is no way to do a background check because our database is pretty much blank.

No data = no screening.

https://youtu.be/5HZ4A7YGKl4

let's try again... How many of those Syrian refugees were involved in the bombing?

When the FBI director says that we can't effectively perform background checks, is he saying that we can't determine a fake passport from a real one? Or is he saying that, devoid of any paperwork, it is very hard to know who is who.

Considering that latter seems rather reasonable to conclude and is the predominant factor involved in his statement, I don't see why the argument is for No refugees at all or all refugees applying. There is such a thing as a middle ground.

Additionally, since these refugees are not actual terrorists and have not acted as terrorists, I don't see why we're created our policies based on fear.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 18:10

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Pebble..

Our own FBI Director testified before Congress that we can't effectively screen the refugees. There is no way to do a background check because our database is pretty much blank.

No data = no screening.

https://youtu.be/5HZ4A7YGKl4

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Just returned from shopping, on the radio in my car was comments from people stating they also saw people in Paterson and JC celebrating on 9/11. This was the Geraldo Rivera radio show.

Was this before or after he revealed who the baby's father was?

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