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What was the name of the steak house in Hudson Mall back in the day ?

Where you dropped the plastic number plaque on the table waiting for the baked and texas toast...


Ahh that was the Rodeo Steakhouse in the HM. Reminds me of a great place to get steaks back then…The House of Meats down the mall. (great name)

Funny about the Ponderosa up the Square. A Marion old-timer and I were talking about restaurants in Journal Square a few weeks ago. He brought up the Ponderosa Steakhouse but insisted it was over by the Concourse near the Tube Bar. I said no it was on JFK Blvd more towards Tonnele Ave. near John’s Bargain Store. Well the argument was never settled (Christ it was getting close to fisticuff’s lol) but an interesting topic popped up.

To calm things down I said remember the Jade Chinese restaurant and at the same time we both yelled out cat heads. The rumor back in the day was it was closed down because the health inspector found 14 cat heads in the rear area of the restaurant. Never found out if that Journal Square urban legend was true but the place was shutdown. I remember fake barfing accompanied by cat meows for months after that whenever a neighborhood kid mentioned the Jade.

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What was the name of the steak house in Hudson Mall back in the day ?

Where you dropped the plastic number plaque on the table waiting for the baked and texas toast...




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Beefsteak Charlie's with $2 pictures of beer


Yes....I read one of the articles on new towers and it said something about hi-end retail and restaurants. Gee I hope Beefsteak Charlie's, Houlihan's, Applebee’s, or Outback make the cut. They better not put in restaurants with $75 sampler menus and $8 dollar craft beers.

I never understood why someone didn’t open a sit down (USDA choice) steak/burger and beer restaurant up the Square in the past 10+ years. (or any type of decent sit-down joint ) The transportation has something like 26,000 people using it daily. You would think at least a few thousand of the commuters would enjoy a burger and beer. There are also tons of JC old-timers scattered around the Journal Square/Marion area that are dying for a good meal up the Square. Like I said all we have are our past memories of the Ponderosa Steak House.

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Yes....I read one of the articles on new towers and it said something about hi-end retail and restaurants. Gee I hope Beefsteak Charlie's, Houlihan's, Applebee’s, or Outback make the cut. They better not put in restaurants with $75 sampler menus and $8 dollar craft beers.

I never understood why someone didn’t open a sit down (USDA choice) steak/burger and beer restaurant up the Square in the past 10+ years. (or any type of decent sit-down joint ) The transportation has something like 26,000 people using it daily. You would think at least a few thousand of the commuters would enjoy a burger and beer. There are also tons of JC old-timers scattered around the Journal Square/Marion area that are dying for a good meal up the Square. Like I said all we have are our past memories of the Ponderosa Steak House.

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Beefsteak Charlie's with $2 pictures of beer

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btw, those renderings remind me of star wars



Yeah and when I look at this picture of the JSquared tower I think I and in some sort of fantasyland or dreamland. As a JSquare old-timer I never thought I would see the actual rebirth of Journal Square take place.

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The first tower of Journal Squared, a three-tower project in Journal Square, on Dec. 3, 2015. Reena Rose Sibayan | The Jersey Journal.


..and I can’t wait for the day when I will be able to walk up the Square and order a juicy steak or burger and cold beer from a Houlihan's, Applebee’s, or Outback. (gee maybe all three) Ahh brings back fond memories of the old Ponderosa Steakhouse)

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i'm all for re-development but i think a fountain is nice public amenity and should stay or be moved. imo, one of the problems with jersey city is that there are not enough parks (and not everyone wants to trot off to lsp especially if one does not have a car).

btw, those renderings remind me of star wars


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Plans for Jersey City tower show Journal Square transformed

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on December 03, 2015 at 10:04 AM

JERSEY CITY — New renderings of the 56-story tower slated for a lot near the PATH transportation hub show just how unrecognizable Journal Square may be in a few years.

The $400 million high-rise, dubbed One Journal Square and courtesy of Kushner Companies and KABR Group, is part of a planned two-tower project proposed for a long-vacant lot across the street from the old headquarters of The Jersey Journal.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... r.html#incart_2box_hudson


Just bumping this one with the rendering up to the top . I should have looked for the old fountain thread for my other post. I see JCGuys did find it.

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Not anti development - if anything the Kushner towers here should be denser and soar to the sky. Journal Square needs the big impact investment. But why does the fountain have to go? Instead of deferring maintenance so it falls into disrepair, fix it.

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"All of these plans were drawn up with guidance from community meetings and feedback," Jacobs said.



I guess facebook was the extent of the community feedback. Unbelievable.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=393103

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The fountain hasn't worked in about five years — city officials said in 2011 they had to repair the underground pumps three times since it was installed. In June, the Fulop administration asked residents to fill out a survey to determine whether the plaza should be redesigned around the fountain, or whether the fountain should be replaced with a different memorial.

Councilman Rich Boggiano, who represents Journal Square, said he's opposed to any move to remove the fountain and replace it with a different memorial "unless we get a World War II memorial."

"Keep your hands off the fountain," Boggiano told The Jersey Journal.


WOW! I actually agree with Rich Boggiano on something. Good job Rich!

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Sheesh! Is it too much to ask if the "non-working fountain" be repaired as part of the development. Why does it have to be demolished and replaced? I'm not opposed to it being moved but I remember a BS survey the city had several months ago where it was a foregone conclusion the fountain would be replaced due to the leading questions.

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(This is related to the post below that has the renderings of the new tower. How could anyone be against replacing/moving that non-working fountain… aka 9/11 Memorial… aka Circle of Honor to a new location in that beautiful new plaza)

Plans to replace 9/11 memorial in Jersey City draw ire
By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on December 03, 2015 at 7:21 AM, updated December 03, 2015 at 10:42 AM

The man who led the charge to rededicate Journal Square's fountain to Jersey City victims of the 9/11 attacks is denouncing a move to replace the memorial as developers make way for a 56-story residential tower.

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... l.html#incart_river_index

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Sheesh! Is it too much to ask if the "non-working fountain" be repaired as part of the development. Why does it have to be demolished and replaced? I'm not opposed to it being moved but I remember a BS survey the city had several months ago where it was a foregone conclusion the fountain would be replaced due to the leading questions.

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Plans to replace 9/11 memorial in Jersey City draw ire
By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on December 03, 2015 at 7:21 AM, updated December 03, 2015 at 10:42 AM

The man who led the charge to rededicate Journal Square's fountain to Jersey City victims of the 9/11 attacks is denouncing a move to replace the memorial as developers make way for a 56-story residential tower.

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... l.html#incart_river_index

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(This is related to the post below that has the renderings of the new tower. How could anyone be against replacing/moving that non-working fountain… aka 9/11 Memorial… aka Circle of Honor to a new location in that beautiful new plaza)

Plans to replace 9/11 memorial in Jersey City draw ire
By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on December 03, 2015 at 7:21 AM, updated December 03, 2015 at 10:42 AM

The man who led the charge to rededicate Journal Square's fountain to Jersey City victims of the 9/11 attacks is denouncing a move to replace the memorial as developers make way for a 56-story residential tower.

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... l.html#incart_river_index

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Plans for Jersey City tower show Journal Square transformed

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on December 03, 2015 at 10:04 AM

JERSEY CITY — New renderings of the 56-story tower slated for a lot near the PATH transportation hub show just how unrecognizable Journal Square may be in a few years.

The $400 million high-rise, dubbed One Journal Square and courtesy of Kushner Companies and KABR Group, is part of a planned two-tower project proposed for a long-vacant lot across the street from the old headquarters of The Jersey Journal.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... r.html#incart_2box_hudson

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I'm happy to see that plans are going ahead to do something with the longstanding eyesore vacant lot at Journal Square, a civic embarrassment reminding all of us who live here that this is the land that urban planning forgot.
Lets consider the 95 million dollar tax abatement, or incentive, or whatever it is called, as "potential money" This money should go into enhancing the neighborhood right? Should all of that potential money be tied up in this one project? Wouldn't it be better to use some of it to spread around this forgotten district in the form of enhancing languishing infrastructure? For instance how much would it cost to repaint the stripes on our roads and maybe work harder at cleaning the trash off the streets? Maybe throw in some traffic safety enforcement? Sure I know this "money" doesn't actually exist in the present, its just money that won't be the responsibility of the developers. But maybe some of that same willingness to be creative with future tax revenues to make things happen could be manipulated in ways that could have a real and positive effect on the daily lives of those who live here?
Flash forward ten years and the towers are up and running. The developers are very well off now and the PATH train is a nightmare. 95 million dollars DID NOT go into enhancing the infrastructure. The rest of the neighborhood has had to get along without it. Has anyone repainted the stripes on the roads yet? Did those of us who live here now have our lives enhanced?

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N.J. awards $93M in tax breaks to Journal Square tower

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on November 13, 2015 at 3:39 PM, updated November 13, 2015 at 3:51 PM

The state Economic Development Authority today approved $93 million in New Jersey tax credits for One Journal Square, the high-rise proposed for a long-vacant lot adjacent to the PATH transportation hub in Jersey City.

The $205 million high-rise, which could house up to 744 residential units, will receive $34 million in tax breaks over 20 years. A separate tax break totaling $54 million over 10 years will go to WeWork, the trendy office space provider that will be a tenant in the tower's 101,000 square feet of office space.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... i.html#incart_2box_hudson


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I'm definitely interested to see how the area develops and if journal squared will help transform it. To be honest, I'm kinda skeptical of the area will change, but I hope it's the start of something good. It'd also be nice to see some other projects break ground.

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$93M in N.J. tax breaks possible for Jersey City tower

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on November 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, updated November 11, 2015 at 4:49 PM

JERSEY CITY — There are $93 million in state tax breaks on tap Friday morning for a residential high-rise planned for a long-vacant lot that once symbolized the stalled revitalization Journal Square.

One Journal Square, the 666-foot, 56-story tower proposed by Kushner Companies and KABR Group, could receive $34 million in tax credit from the state Economic Development Authority at the agency's Nov. 13 meeting.

The EDA is also considering a separate round of tax credits totaling $5.9 million annually over 10 years for an entity connected to trendy office space provider WeWork that may be housed in the new tower.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... e.html#incart_2box_hudson

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Ruling paves way for construction of Jersey City tower

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on October 08, 2015 at 12:58 PM, updated October 08, 2015 at 3:21 PM

JERSEY CITY — A Hudson County Superior Court judge has ruled against Jersey City in its bid to halt construction of a tower that could rise up to 42 stories in Journal Square's Hilltop neighborhood.

Judge Barry P. Sarkisian ruled yesterday that the city reneged on its agreement with developer Robinhood Plaza and Sarkisian ordered the city to adopt an ordinance that would pave the way for construction on the tower to begin.

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Going up! Journal Squared construction in Jersey City (PHOTOS)

By Patrick Villanova | The Jersey Journal
on August 27, 2015 at 1:02 PM, updated August 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM

Jersey City's rapidly changing skyline will soon feature one of the state's tallest residential buildings.

In Journal Square, construction is underway on a three-tower residential project that will bring over 1,800 new housing units to the neighborhood.

jj piece with photos….

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... rsey_ci.html#incart_river

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Legal battle reignites over proposed Jersey City tower

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on August 24, 2015 at 3:29 PM

JERSEY CITY — A battle that could determine how high developers can build in a residential Journal Square neighborhood is back in court, three years after the city negotiated a deal with the developer that would allow for a 42-story tower in the area.

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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _city_t.html#incart_river

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You forgot to mention the big empty lots namesake Mayor Healy. As in “Healy’s big empty ugly lot” I used it in many posts during the last election. (lol)

I’ll just mention one example from Healy’s 2009 campaign BS machine. Remember he actually held a big “party” in front of “Healy’s big empty ugly lot” on April 7, 2009? The event even had a flyer it was dubbed “Square Renaissance: The Beginning “.The flyer is still out there in internet land err I mean (using Healy’s term)the blog-o-sphere. Gee right before the May2009 election how CON-venient. (yes pun intended twice once for the CON Healy pulled on us for the lot and one for all of his administrations CON’s who would be busted shorty in Operation Bid Rig)

jj april 2009:Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy -- who has made the rejuvenation of Journal Square a priority of his administration and part of his campaign for re-election -- applauded the movement.

"My administration has been the first in decades to take the necessary steps to restore Journal Square as the central business district of Jersey City, and we are pleased to see this project move forward," Healy said.

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Four times Jersey City pledged to develop still-vacant Journal Square site

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal The Jersey Journal 
August 20, 2015 at  3:23 PM

JERSEY CITY — New plans for a residential tower across the street from the old Jersey Journal headquarters in Journal Square have some excited that the long-vacant lot will finally be home to something other than a garbage receptacle.

But Jersey City has been here before. For at least the last 20 years, city officials have made promises about bringing development to that property. Here is a flashback to some of their lofty pledges

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... rnal_square_property.html


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Report in the actual newspaper says it's gonna be 666 feet tall. Seriously. Slayer developing this plot?.

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Chris, here it is: Journal Squared, approaching 20 stories, is being done by KRE. That is Murray Kushner the estranged brother of Charlie Kushner. Next to Chase Bank is 3 Journal Square Plaza being done by Joe Panepinto, a political operative & no connection to the Kushners. One Journal Square is to be done by Jared Kushner, Charlie Kushners son, and the son-in-law of Donald Trump. With the similarities of names and addresses it is difficult to keep track.

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4. The giant new building on Senate Place next to Canco. A few blocks further away from the Square, but in the same vicinity.

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I am trying to keep track of these projects in the works:

1. Journal Squared by Kushner - this is the one directly behind Journal Sq that is under construction and approaching 20 stories already.

2. 1 Journal Square Plaza - this is next to the Chase Bank also being done by Kushner and it looks like some preliminary work has started.

3. 1 Journal Square - the vacant lot mentioned in today's article that may also be done by Kushner.

What other ones are there on the horizon that have a chance to go forward? What happened with the auction for the building that houses the JSQ Pub? I thought this took place in June but I have not heard any outcome/future plans for the site.

After seeing the area in its present state for so many years I am really curious what the next 5-10 years will bring.

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Excellent news for JSQ property owners. Not so great news for anyone upstream who relies on the PATH.

Once all of the new developments in the JSQ area are finished, these trains could be packed before leaving JSQ. Then imagine what it will look like once all the other developments are complete.

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Excellent news!!!!

56-story tower planned for long-vacant Jersey City lot

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on August 18, 2015 at 3:18 PM, updated August 18, 2015 at 5:28 PM

JERSEY CITY — It's only a black-and-white rendering, but The Jersey Journal has a first look at one of the highly anticipated residential towers slated for a long-vacant lot near the Journal Square PATH station.

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Mayor Healy wanted to tear down the Loew's. That tells you all you need to know about him and his "progress."

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So, zoning has nothing to do with development decisions!! What an educated and informed statement. If you google Jersey City you see plenty of Buzz over the Healy years, the Wall Street Journal, USA today, the Times, ect. Get real, the turn around of Jersey City has been a 30 effort by many people, not the least of which has been the planning professionals of the city. Development of Journal Square and all those great buildings downtown started long before Steven to the oath of office. As a matter of fact, long before he every thought of moving into JC. Now, if you never left, you would know that.

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