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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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The keyboard crusader(JCMan8) also leaves out that most who wanted Sharia felt it should apply to muslims.....and there was lots of disagreement on what punishments should be applied or even carried out.



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While it's true that only a small minority of Muslims actually commit the violence, the fact is that MANY Muslims in Europe support ISIS's policies. Look at this poll which found that 16% of all French people support ISIS.

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-cit ... rt-isis-poll-finds-266795

And that poll is being PC, because it only tells you the attitudes of all "French citizens." Had they narrowed it down to "French Muslims" that number would skyrocket.

The numbers are similar for London.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4253271.ece

Like I said, it is no coincidence that Paris has the #1 amount of Muslims out of any city in the EU and they keep having these attacks. And they will continue to have these attacks until some of you wake the fuck up and recognize what is going on.

And if you are wondering why this may be, it could be connected to the fact that hundreds of millions of "moderate" Muslims worldwide harbor such "progressive" beliefs such as supporting the death penalty for leaving Islam, women are the property of their husbands, gays should be killed, and sharia law should be officially implemented.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wo ... enalty-for-leaving-islam/

This article focuses on Pakistan and Egypt, because the majorities of Muslims there share these beliefs, but the study was global, and you can see high support (measured in absolute numbers) for these values in countries around the globe.

So we can drop the bullshit about "generalizations."


This poll has been quite disputed as only 7.5% of the French population is Muslim. The numbers for the other European countries don't make sense either.

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While it's true that only a small minority of Muslims actually commit the violence, the fact is that MANY Muslims in Europe support ISIS's policies. Look at this poll which found that 16% of all French people support ISIS.

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-cit ... rt-isis-poll-finds-266795

And that poll is being PC, because it only tells you the attitudes of all "French citizens." Had they narrowed it down to "French Muslims" that number would skyrocket.

The numbers are similar for London.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4253271.ece

Like I said, it is no coincidence that Paris has the #1 amount of Muslims out of any city in the EU and they keep having these attacks. And they will continue to have these attacks until some of you wake the fuck up and recognize what is going on.

And if you are wondering why this may be, it could be connected to the fact that hundreds of millions of "moderate" Muslims worldwide harbor such "progressive" beliefs such as supporting the death penalty for leaving Islam, women are the property of their husbands, gays should be killed, and sharia law should be officially implemented.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wo ... enalty-for-leaving-islam/

This article focuses on Pakistan and Egypt, because the majorities of Muslims there share these beliefs, but the study was global, and you can see high support (measured in absolute numbers) for these values in countries around the globe.

So we can drop the bullshit about "generalizations."


This poll has been quite disputed as only 7.5% of the French population is Muslim. The numbers for the other European countries don't make sense either.

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The 2% is not a 'fact'. Please re-read the article.

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CORRECTION. 2 men from syria linked to paris attacks....5th column!

http://news.yahoo.com/two-men-linked- ... nts-greece-195255102.html

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looks like assad might be around for much longer than the us had wanted, under russia-us agreement.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/article ... -by-u-s-allies-kerry-says

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sad news obviously....but i don't see how no one would not expect blowback from isis if isis is being attacked by france. the us/france/coaltion strikes in syria have not been authorized by the security council or the syrian government.

according to the ny times, one of the terrorist traveled on a syrian passport

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/wor ... is-terrorist-attacks.html

seems like assad, like qadaffi and hussein, knew how to deal with their more malevolent citizens.


You do know what "traveled on a Syrian passport" means, right? It means he was a "refugee."

Not surprising when you consider the fact that 2% of all Syrian "refugees" are ISIS terrorists.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... ts-cover-attack-West.html

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sad news obviously....but i don't see how no one would not expect blowback from isis if isis is being attacked by france. the us/france/coaltion strikes in syria have not been authorized by the security council or the syrian government.

according to the ny times, one of the terrorist traveled on a syrian passport

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/wor ... is-terrorist-attacks.html

seems like assad, like qadaffi and hussein, knew how to deal with their more malevolent citizens.

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While it's true that only a small minority of Muslims actually commit the violence, the fact is that MANY Muslims in Europe support ISIS's policies. Look at this poll which found that 16% of all French people support ISIS.

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-cit ... rt-isis-poll-finds-266795

And that poll is being PC, because it only tells you the attitudes of all "French citizens." Had they narrowed it down to "French Muslims" that number would skyrocket.

The numbers are similar for London.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4253271.ece

Like I said, it is no coincidence that Paris has the #1 amount of Muslims out of any city in the EU and they keep having these attacks. And they will continue to have these attacks until some of you wake the fuck up and recognize what is going on.

And if you are wondering why this may be, it could be connected to the fact that hundreds of millions of "moderate" Muslims worldwide harbor such "progressive" beliefs such as supporting the death penalty for leaving Islam, women are the property of their husbands, gays should be killed, and sharia law should be officially implemented.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wo ... enalty-for-leaving-islam/

This article focuses on Pakistan and Egypt, because the majorities of Muslims there share these beliefs, but the study was global, and you can see high support (measured in absolute numbers) for these values in countries around the globe.

So we can drop the bullshit about "generalizations."

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I didnt see any other religious figure flanking Hollande.

But here ya go even though regardless it won't satisfy you cause its obvious your opinons of muslims borders on generalizations.

http://www.rtl.be/info/monde/internat ... euses-a-paris-770719.aspx


http://www.romandie.com/news/Le-grand ... ieuses-a-Paris/648789.rom

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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.



Bullshit. Why there are no grand muftis flanking Hollande condemning this act? Where were the imams after 9/11? Getting condemning statements from them was and is like pulling teeth. If they do it, they do it out of fear of reprisals.


I read more about preaching hate in mosques than condemnations of terrorist violence from muslim community. Generalization? Maybe, but that is what I see. Why radical islam is even allowed in mosques? The FBI is rightly concerned that such hate breeds home-grown terrorists.

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I didnt see any other religious figure flanking Hollande.

But here ya go even though regardless it won't satisfy you cause its obvious your opinons of muslims borders on generalizations.

http://www.rtl.be/info/monde/internat ... euses-a-paris-770719.aspx


http://www.romandie.com/news/Le-grand ... ieuses-a-Paris/648789.rom

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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.



Bullshit. Why there are no grand muftis flanking Hollande condemning this act? Where were the imams after 9/11? Getting condemning statements from them was and is like pulling teeth. If they do it, they do it out of fear of reprisals.

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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.



Bullshit. Why there are no grand muftis flanking Hollande condemning this act? Where were the imams after 9/11? Getting condemning statements from them was and is like pulling teeth. If they do it, they do it out of fear of reprisals.

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Willful ignorance? even if you believe there are just a ?few hundred? radicals engaged or planning in terrorism here in the US, that is a few hundred too many considering the number casualties from the recent Egypt plane bombing and Paris were committed by just a handful.

The question is how big is the safety net that protects these killers? The Boston Marathon Bombing was not enough blood on the street for you to open your eyes to a sad reality? Make no mistake, the US has been very lucky if your ignore 9-11. BTW, speaking out against Muslim inspired terrorism does not make you a bigot. Another false media driven narrative.




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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.

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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.


The muslim population sure must be growing like crazy, why only 15 years ago around 9/11 I heard that the muslim population was worldwide was 1 billion. Either that or they are they are inflating their numbers to make it seem like there are a lot more of them then there really are.

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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.

Amen!

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Think Sully has it right. It's insane to blame the actions of a few hundred radicals on the entire 3-5 million Muslim population in the US. There'd be a hell of a lot more blood on our streets if the bigots were right. The fact there isn't proves the bigots wrong.

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Dear Sully,
Your noble, but ultraistic sentiments are built on a false premise that attributes a Judeo-Christian Western rationale to these murderous bastards. They do not care about anything except for their global jihad through violence. They will also spread jihad with mass illegal or legal immigration throughout the west. They have no intention of assimilating into western culture because our values and lifestyle do not conform to their beliefs.
You also fall for the dangerous media driven premise that says there is open hatred and persecution of Muslims in this country. This open society has bent over backwards to accommodate these people despite repeated attacks by their young believers driven by an immoral dogma. 99.99% of Americans are quite restrained while car bombs are driven into Time Square, women are beheaded in the workplace, college students are slashed in classrooms and our constitutional right to free speech is directly assaulted by jihadists at a conference center.
The willful ignorance of the west dangerously plays into their global aspirations for an Islamic world. To hear the media and government terrorist experts admit surprise this morning that they never considered any other tactic other ?lone wolf? attacks is gross negligence. Where did they think these isolated attacks were leading?


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Your reaction of hatred and fear is exactly what these despicable acts were designed to achieve.

The goal of these terrorists was not so much to kill a few dozen or a couple hundred people, but to activate the biggoted elements in Europe/US to escalate the persecution of Muslims in their communities, making it easier for the bad guys to radicalize and recruit new members.

I am not saying, don?t do anything about it. Of course the perpetrators need to be found and held accountable. There is not much you or I can do directly to help that cause, but here are two things we can do, right now:

We can keep the innocents who lost their lives, and their families, in our thoughts.

We can push back against hatred and persecution of Muslims in our community. If we fail to do so, we are walking into the trap set by the terrorists.

Yours,
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Apparently there were a lot of supporters taking to twitter and social media to express support for the attack. Who knows how many of those are here in this country. The tech companies need to work with law enforcement to help them track these people. This cannot go on.

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Dear JCMan8 -
Your reaction of hatred and fear is exactly what these despicable acts were designed to achieve.

The goal of these terrorists was not so much to kill a few dozen or a couple hundred people, but to activate the biggoted elements in Europe/US to escalate the persecution of Muslims in their communities, making it easier for the bad guys to radicalize and recruit new members.

I am not saying, don?t do anything about it. Of course the perpetrators need to be found and held accountable. There is not much you or I can do directly to help that cause, but here are two things we can do, right now:

We can keep the innocents who lost their lives, and their families, in our thoughts.

We can push back against hatred and persecution of Muslims in our community. If we fail to do so, we are walking into the trap set by the terrorists.

Yours,
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Some people here are just assholes.


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We have family in Paris and they are terrified.

Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

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I understand this is a local blog, but a lot of people here are just ignorant


Don't let the ignorance of others get in the way of compassion. The victims of these horrific attacks are all that matters tonight.





Go ahead and be compassionate. But have an eye towards the future. You could have said this after the Charlie Hebdo and kosher market massacre just this year. Think this won't happen again?

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We have family in Paris and they are terrified.

Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

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I understand this is a local blog, but a lot of people here are just ignorant


Don't let the ignorance of others get in the way of compassion. The victims of these horrific attacks are all that matters tonight.





This...thank you.


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We have family in Paris and they are terrified.

Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

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I understand this is a local blog, but a lot of people here are just ignorant


Don't let the ignorance of others get in the way of compassion. The victims of these horrific attacks are all that matters tonight.




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Some people here are just assholes. We have family in Paris and they are terrified.

I understand this is a local blog, but a lot of people her are just ignorant


I feel sorry for your family. Victims of appeasing liberal politicians who think not hurting feelings comes above personal safety.

Hopefully they, along with the rest of the people, wake up to the threats they are facing and elect right wing politicians who will implement the necessary measures I've stated. Otherwise they can look forward to more of this. Today's tragedy was sadly blindingly obvious.

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Some people here are just assholes. We have family in Paris and they are terrified.

I understand this is a local blog, but a lot of people here are just ignorant

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Glad I checked this toilet bowl thread for my fix of international political analysis!

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Liberals are absolutely sick people to keep defending this shit.

It is no coincidence that Paris has THE highest number of Muslims of any city in the EU, and they keep suffering these major terrorist attacks.


oh my god can you get a new buzzword?? Your racist uncle act is exhausting.

Not sure what your act is pal, but there is a state of emergency going on and the enemy within is no secret on who they are. They have made themselves known.


Oh so I guess if we follow the well thought out logic that Muslim= terrorist that means we should just round them all up and put them in one place ..maybe something like a camp? Sounds like a cool and smart plan.


Maybe we should first recognize that importing Muslims = importing terrorists. Not all Muslims are terrorists but all of these terrorists are Muslim.

Then we can stop accepting these hordes of "refugees." Then we can spy on mosques and deport the Muslims who show radical tendencies.

No camps required.

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Liberals are absolutely sick people to keep defending this shit.

It is no coincidence that Paris has THE highest number of Muslims of any city in the EU, and they keep suffering these major terrorist attacks.


oh my god can you get a new buzzword?? Your racist uncle act is exhausting.

Not sure what your act is pal, but there is a state of emergency going on and the enemy within is no secret on who they are. They have made themselves known.


Oh so I guess if we follow the well thought out logic that Muslim= terrorist that means we should just round them all up and put them in one place ..maybe something like a camp? Sounds like a cool and smart plan.

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The irony here are the US federal agencies offering the French support... as if the French government can't turn these 6 incidents into 6 separate isolated acts of workplace violence committed by lonely misunderstood young men who were simply upset because they could not find work and their social benefits were being shut-off. Perhaps they just needed a safe space to gather and talk about their angst?

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Liberals are absolutely sick people to keep defending this shit.

It is no coincidence that Paris has THE highest number of Muslims of any city in the EU, and they keep suffering these major terrorist attacks.


oh my god can you get a new buzzword?? Your racist uncle act is exhausting.

Not sure what your act is pal, but there is a state of emergency going on and the enemy within is no secret on who they are. They have made themselves known.

Posted on: 2015/11/14 0:43
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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The Muslim terrorists killed another 100 people in a concert hall, after conducting mass executions.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live ... ted-in-eastern-paris-live

Posted on: 2015/11/14 0:34
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