Sommerman wrote:
A while ago, someone pointed out that two elevators would be needed because a single elevator from street to platform would bypass the turnstiles.

Sommerman wrote:
A while ago, someone pointed out that two elevators would be needed because a single elevator from street to platform would bypass the turnstiles. I'm guessing this is an elevator to the platform and that we will soon see the turnstiles rearranged - just a guess.

corybraiterman wrote:
I was wondering if it was an elevator as well, however if that's going to the street, it would come up in the middle of the west-bound lane of newark ave...

if it's just to the platform with escalators & stairs only then wtf's the point?

unless they put another elevator just northwest of that in the corner by the escalator?

Saradove wrote:
This may have already been addressed but ? what is that gigantic square box built smack dab in the middle of the Grove PATH Station mezzanine? Is it staying? It takes up so much space that people are two-stepping & bouncing off each other coming & going during rush hour.

Voyeur wrote:
More delays due to the shitty construction standards at the world's most expensive train station - now the Oculus is leaking water, pushing back the opening into the first half of 2016, not that anyone who commutes through there daily had any illusions it would open this year.

But here is the real gem buried in the story: "By fall of next year, two new PATH train platforms are to be in service, in addition to those already used by commuters. Finally, the mezzanine above the platforms, which is linked to the Oculus by a grand staircase, is to be finished by the end of next year. The authority has abandoned its plan to open an interim passageway through the Oculus."

Another example of fine communication from the PA. Can't wait for another winter of trudging across the WTC site in the snow.

peternem wrote:
Anyone have any idea why they insist on showing those frustrating scrolling messages on the screens in exchange place showing when the next scheduled train is, rather than just showing the actual time until the next train?

Even if the data isn't available for some reason to show the actual time, they should at least change the scrolling messages for a shortened static one. The words that cause it to need to scroll are completely superfluous.

peternem wrote:
Anyone have any idea why they insist on showing those frustrating scrolling messages on the screens in exchange place showing when the next scheduled train is, rather than just showing the actual time until the next train?

Even if the data isn't available for some reason to show the actual time, they should at least change the scrolling messages for a shortened static one. The words that cause it to need to scroll are completely superfluous.

07310 wrote:
They are claiming everything is back to normal.

10/10/2015 3:26:45 PM

Path train service is resuming normal operations, NWK-WTC 00,20,40 WTC-NWK 07,27,47. Jsq.-33rd will resume normal weekend service.

http://www.airportinfoalerts.com/recent_pathalerts.aspx

SRhia wrote:
It was REALLY BAD at 9am this morning too. At that time, it appeared that (God knows what the announcers were saying through those speakers) they only had one track running, so all the folks coming from HOB had to get off at Grove to wait for another train (to go towards NWK, I assume), while the platform was already full with people waiting to go to NYC. When the WTO train came, it was already FULLY packed. Thank god a lot of people got off at Grove (I guess to switch trains to go to HOB?) so that we can re-pack the train to it's full extent. Poor folks at Exchange Place - no room for them.

This is A LOT worse than the usual weekend trains.

Also, I don't understand why they have to announce every 2 seconds that due to weekend track maintenance, there's delays. There are ALWAYS delays every weekend, why bother with that stupid announcement.

My fear is that - as bad as the PATH train is, I bet it can get a lot worse before it gets better (if ever).

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PATH 11AM today...Total chaos as NY tracks are closed; passengers directed to Newark platform for NY trains & after packing on told by PATH personnel & police to get off & go upstairs for their safety. PATH telling people to get on shuttle for Grove St...Saw track workers with flags east of station...PATH site says something about structural integrity of platform. Not good...

Is this your first hand account?

Yvonne wrote:
PATH 11AM today...Total chaos as NY tracks are closed; passengers directed to Newark platform for NY trains & after packing on told by PATH personnel & police to get off & go upstairs for their safety. PATH telling people to get on shuttle for Grove St...Saw track workers with flags east of station...PATH site says something about structural integrity of platform. Not good...

Yvonne wrote:
PATH 11AM today...Total chaos as NY tracks are closed; passengers directed to Newark platform for NY trains & after packing on told by PATH personnel & police to get off & go upstairs for their safety. PATH telling people to get on shuttle for Grove St...Saw track workers with flags east of station...PATH site says something about structural integrity of platform. Not good...

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This is a new one...

PATH Alerts ?@PATHAlerts 2h2 hours ago
Due to a structual defect at the JSQ station, service from HAR to GRO is suspended.

https://twitter.com/PATHAlerts/status/652872936496304128

Is this service still suspended?

Check PATHAlerts...

JCMan8 wrote:
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mpwJC wrote:
This is a new one...

PATH Alerts ?@PATHAlerts 2h2 hours ago
Due to a structual defect at the JSQ station, service from HAR to GRO is suspended.

https://twitter.com/PATHAlerts/status/652872936496304128

Is this service still suspended?

mpwJC wrote:
This is a new one...

PATH Alerts ?@PATHAlerts 2h2 hours ago
Due to a structual defect at the JSQ station, service from HAR to GRO is suspended.

https://twitter.com/PATHAlerts/status/652872936496304128

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Sully wrote:
This doesn't sound good (as of 12:53 am - 10/3/2015)

Due to a track condition, PATH is operating 33rd-Hob, Nwk-Jsq and Wtc-Ex. Place only. NJT will cross honor PATH passengners.

I got to WTC at about 11.30pm last night only to be told all PATH service was "closed". Not suspended, or suffering delays, but closed. I asked the clueless guy whether 33rd-JSQ was running and of course he had no idea. Took the A train to PABT, waited an hour and then, without been told whether trains were operating or not, got on a JSQ train which terminated at Hoboken. So I walked down the Hudson walkway in the pouring rain to get back to home.

Even by PATH's pathetic weekend late night standards, last night was astoundingly frustrating. When a guy tells you to go to Penn Station and get NJ Transit to Secaucus, how exactly does that help anyone who lives in JC or Hoboken?

We spend a lot of time on this thread comparing PATH to the MTA, but the fact is there are a half dozen lines to take you into Brookly, Queens or the Bronx if one closes. Last night there was no ferry, bus or train option to get home. If we want to talk about why JC real estate is not approaching the same prices as Brooklyn Heights, its not the Jersey stigma, it is the risk of been stranded late at night.

There were plenty of yellow cab vultures lurking outide WTC, however, happily offering to take people home for $60.

Apologies for raging. Rant over.

You had a better night than this guy.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _c.html#incart_river_home

A man was found dead on the PATH tracks late last night in Jersey City, authorities said this morning.

The man was found just west of the Grove Street PATH station just after 11 p.m. last night, Port Authority police spokesman Joe Pentangelo said. It could not be confirmed if he was struck or how he died.

The PATH system was completely shut down at 11:15 p.m. and at 12:08 a.m. PATH resumed service from Hoboken to 33rd Street and between Journal Square and Newark.

Service was restored at 5:05 am. Pentangelo said the man's death is under investigation.

Guess that's the cause of the system shutdown.

The lack of communication sucks, but I do understand why it had to happen. Whenever a death happens, they close the whole area down for a long time.

This episode does illustrate that one glaring weakness for the DTJC real estate market is that if the PATH is shut down for whatever reason, you are completely fucked going to/from NYC. There is no alternative once the ferries close, which is rather early.

It is also why I think the massive new construction (I believe over 30,000 units, or approximately 60,000 people in JSQ and Grove) will completely overwhelm the already overcrowded PATH. Because it won't just affect late nights, you will have a very hard time getting on the trains at all unless you live in JSQ. I think this will serve to severely limit the DTJC real estate market unless there is some kind of solution.

Lack of communications sucks? Do you not subscribe to the PATH Alerts? There was a whole slew of them. They didn't say someone was killed, but then again, they don't need to point that out. They just said the system was down and that NJ transit was cross honoring.

Look, I'm no fan of PATH. I hate that ride every day. They cram us in and there's nothing we can do about it. However, in the case last night, they were very forth coming with info even on an early Saturday morning.