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This is extremely helpful guys. I really appreciate it!

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If she's into it, an antique stone or ring is a great way to go. Doyle and Doyle are the big guys, but we got my engagement ring custom made with an antique stone. When we had it appraised, its value was double what she charged us. (For what it's worth...diamond rings have little resale value compared to what they cost.) Here's where we got mine: http://www.bmjnyc.com

And Catbird is an awesome store with unusual stuff: http://www.catbirdnyc.com

Congrats!

+1 on Doyle and Doyle. Their store is beautiful and their staff is great. I looked at Catbird as well but felt better going with D&D because they had a bigger selection and a great reputation. They have a website and Instagram if you want to check out their selection before heading to the store.

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If she's into it, an antique stone or ring is a great way to go. Doyle and Doyle are the big guys, but we got my engagement ring custom made with an antique stone. When we had it appraised, its value was double what she charged us. (For what it's worth...diamond rings have little resale value compared to what they cost.) Here's where we got mine: http://www.bmjnyc.com

And Catbird is an awesome store with unusual stuff: http://www.catbirdnyc.com

Congrats!

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Just remember that a GIA certified stone doesn't make it a good or great stone, it only tells you what it is. GIA certifies a lot of terrible diamonds.

No one has asked you your budget, or what shape/color/setting you think your bride would like. Take advantage of the free engagement consultations you can get from many of the larger fine jewelry companies to educate yourself, you're under no obligation to buy. Blue Nile has a pretty good website to get a rough comparison on pricing. Is your bride brand conscious? She might prefer a half carat Tiffany diamond to a 1 carat Costco/no name jeweler, for instance. Would she rather hand down the ring to (perhaps) your daughter and say 'This was the Cartier ring daddy gave me' or 'This is the 'Manny, Moe, and Jack Jewelers' ring daddy gave me? Think of the extra cost over hopefully many decades of marriage if that's important to either of you.

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Ehh...if you do go to the Diamond District (which I don't recommend), stay far away from Blauweiss & Berkowitz.

Stones fell out of their rings left and right that we bought there and then they claimed that it must be my fault, that I shouldn't go running, breathing or living with the rings on. They were incredibly nasty about it.

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I recently used Bluenile.com and was very happy with the experience. I did a lot of research on the 4 C's and florescence, table size, and all that jazz. So the compare layout on bluenile was really helpful. I am not saying this is the best, I am saying I preferred it and it made me feel more comfortable. Good luck

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I got my the ring for my fiance made at my friend's firm in NY, at the diamond district. He deals in only in GIA certified diamonds and had the ring and setting made specifically for it so that the halo was properly flush against the main stone and made it look amazing. He also gave a lot of good advice as to the trade offs and how similarly rated stones can vary to the eye due to cut, table size, and the depth and type of inclusions.

The ring is a 1.44 carat G/VS2, and looks much nicer, and costs way less than similar Tiffany rings, including her cousin's which cost about $5,000 more, and has a gap between the halo and the main stone.

Here is the company. Ask for Chris. He's an old Jersey City boy like me.

http://www.brilliantlyengaged.com/


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I bought my wife's engagement ring in the diamond district over 15 years ago. Not from a booth in the center, but from the office of a wholesaler who was the uncle of a co-worker of mine. He showed me a lot of stones in my price range, explained the GIA ratings on each of them and pointed out the specific flaws (usually impossible to see without a loupe). He also took care of the setting for me at a very reasonable cost. Overall the price was well below what it would have been in any jewelry store.

Having been there, I can't recommend walking into a random shop in the diamond district expecting to be given the insider's treatment. On the other hand, if you have a personal reference or a recommendation, I think you'll do better than in a mall store.

Always get the GIA certificate for your stone (make sure it doesn't say cubic zirconium :)

Wish I could remember the name of the dealer I went to.

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Good luck and best wishes to you on the new chapter in your life!!!


Thanks!

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You will not, ever, do better than the Diamond District in Manhattan. Simple as that. Not even online.

They'll even ship it to you in NJ so they don't have to charge sales tax.


I respectfully disagree. This may be true in some instances, but this is certainly not an absolute.

It's real easy to get the lowest price for a diamond. The trick most people fall into is thinking two diamonds are similar but not realizing the lower priced diamond may be of lower quality (many places in the Diamond District only sell diamonds of average to poor quality but will market it as a good diamond). Once you find similar diamonds in multiple stores, start the negotiating and see which one offers the lowest price.

ONLY look at diamonds that are GIA or AGS certified (all the other certification agencies are terrible and I would never rely on one of them when I buy a diamond). AGS is actually better in some cases because their grading of cut takes into consideration many aspects of the diamond GIA does not (the appropriate angles, table width, etc.).

Some respectable online places that I would not hesitate to buy from are:

Whiteflash, James Allen, Blue Nile

A good place to educate youself on diamond quality and price is:
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockytalky/

Good luck!


Thank you!

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Have you asked your mother, grands or aunts? Might be some nice stones, if not rings in a safe deposit box. Using a family stone, perhaps one that symbolized a long happy marriage sounds worth exploring.

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Lie and tell them you're Jewish, even if you look like a clueless idiot noob from Ohio who just moved to Grove Street.


Also ask to see the rapaport sheets.

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Well, I did it 29 years ago and the online option didn't exist then. When I finally got around to asking my live-in GF to marry me (in a fortune cookie in Chinatown) I didn't pull out a ring. I told her we'd shop together and get what SHE wanted to wear for the rest of her life. And we did, and we looked, and we didn't know shite from shinola about diamonds. And the big stores offerings just didn't ring her chimes.

So we went to the Diamond District in NYC and met a nice man and his elderly mother who ran their booth in the diamond center. He asked, he listened, he pulled out various stones and put them under a microscope and explained to us what we were seeing. And my fiancé picked her stone and the diamond dealer walked us over to the booth that sells settings and worked with us until it was JUST what she wanted.

If she was happy (and she was/still is) then I'm ecstatic. As I recall the final price was roughly 1/3 less than buying a pre-made ring in a jeweler's shop. I wish you the best of luck-

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Any advice for a "trusted jeweler in a place that sketches you out" then?

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Good luck and best wishes to you on the new chapter in your life!!!

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You will not, ever, do better than the Diamond District in Manhattan. Simple as that. Not even online.

They'll even ship it to you in NJ so they don't have to charge sales tax.


I respectfully disagree. This may be true in some instances, but this is certainly not an absolute.

It's real easy to get the lowest price for a diamond. The trick most people fall into is thinking two diamonds are similar but not realizing the lower priced diamond may be of lower quality (many places in the Diamond District only sell diamonds of average to poor quality but will market it as a good diamond). Once you find similar diamonds in multiple stores, start the negotiating and see which one offers the lowest price.

ONLY look at diamonds that are GIA or AGS certified (all the other certification agencies are terrible and I would never rely on one of them when I buy a diamond). AGS is actually better in some cases because their grading of cut takes into consideration many aspects of the diamond GIA does not (the appropriate angles, table width, etc.).

Some respectable online places that I would not hesitate to buy from are:

Whiteflash, James Allen, Blue Nile

A good place to educate youself on diamond quality and price is:
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockytalky/

Good luck!

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If interested in the online route, jamesallen.com

They're really communicative, have great photos online, and work directly with you in finding what you need. Got wife's engagement ring and our wedding rings their last year, ship from NYC to NJ no tax.


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wanna get ripped off? go to a jeweler in the mall. Wanna pay what you should pay, go to a trusted jeweler in a place that sketches you out.


Any advice for a "trusted jeweler in a place that sketches you out" then?


http://www.nerdiamond.com/store/catalog/page_info.php?pages_id=1 ask for Raymond

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Try Jewelry Patch (501 7th Avenue)

It is a small shop located on 7th between 37th and 38th so easy to get to from PATH. It is run by a friend of a friend's father and where my engagement ring was purchased.


Thanks! Pretty solid reviews on Yelp about Cliff

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Try Jewelry Patch (501 7th Avenue)

It is a small shop located on 7th between 37th and 38th so easy to get to from PATH. It is run by a friend of a friend's father and where my engagement ring was purchased.

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You will not, ever, do better than the Diamond District in Manhattan. Simple as that. Not even online.

They'll even ship it to you in NJ so they don't have to charge sales tax.


Thanks. Appreciate the advice. Guess I just had a bad experience there previously. Do you have any stores in particular that you would recommend there?

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Always considered rings as commercial frippery. Tattoos can say a lot more, for less, imo.

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You will not, ever, do better than the Diamond District in Manhattan. Simple as that. Not even online.

They'll even ship it to you in NJ so they don't have to charge sales tax.

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Any advice for a "trusted jeweler in a place that sketches you out" then?

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wanna get ripped off? go to a jeweler in the mall. Wanna pay what you should pay, go to a trusted jeweler in a place that sketches you out.

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The Jewelry Exchange at the Woodbridge Mall.
http://www.woodbridgejewelry.com/

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Does anyone have advice for a jeweler to go to for an engagement ring? Preferably not in the Newport Mall (no offense to those two stores), or in the Diamond District in Manhattan (which sketches me out).

Ideally looking for an established shop with friendly people who don't try to pressure or take advantage.

Thanks!

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