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Christie may be in favor, but it's Lesniak and the other Democrats who are hell bent into getting this done, looming its shadow over Liberty State Park.

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Christie says he supports opening casino in North Jersey 

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Governor Christie said Wednesday night he would favor allowing a casino to open in North Jersey and has "absolutely no problem" with putting that question to voters "right away."

"The competition's only going to grow, in New York in particular, and so if we could plant our flag firmly in the ground in the northern part of the state, I think that would make the project even more successful," Christie said.

Christie's comments, on his monthly radio call-in show on New Jersey 101.5, came a day after Meadowlands track operator Jeff Gural said a new casino proposal called Hard Rock Meadowlands would be announced next week. New Jersey's constitution allows for gambling only in Atlantic City, but the seaside town has been picked apart by competition in Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut the last several years, and state officials have tried a host of fixes that have yet to even stabilize the once-thriving resort.

Christie said, as he has in the past, that any proposal in North Jersey would have to send some of the revenue back to Atlantic City to help its local economy.

Allowing a casino, or casinos, to operate outside Atlantic City would require an amendment to the state constitution. That requires legislative and voter approval, and legislators have about a month to decide whether to put that question on the November election ballot.

"I certainly would be publicly supportive of getting this question done as quickly as we could so that we can proceed to expand if that's the will of the people," Christie said. "Ultimately, they need to decide whether to amend the constitution to allow gaming beyond Atlantic City. I think given the competition around us, it would be the right thing to do."

Christie also said he didn’t have a favorite location for any casino outside Atlantic City. The Meadowlands and Jersey City have emerged as likely sites because they presumably would draw visitors from New York while keeping New Jerseyans from crossing state lines to gamble.

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Thanks, Monroe.. appreciate it! I really want to hear what the whole concept entails but as long as the motor cross stadium that was part of the original vision is NOT included, I am hopeful this project is doable. I'm not crazy about proliferating casinos but right now building one in the Meadowlands(where you still have the ill fated Xanadu project, now under new management so you might as well build around it all the money being wasted keeping it in limbo) and Jersey City at the location being discussed which would be mainly higher stakes and not a true competitor to AC, well with the condition AC is in proceeds from the profits from both can help at least stem the bleeding it's taking. Also the hotel/condo/casino would be the tallest outside a main city in North America at a height that rivals One World Trade Center and with 95 story, 990 ft 99 Hudson give our city two supertalls at the very least. With everything in the pipeline and till some significant developable land our skyline, fifth in the Northeast and 14th overall in the US, a top 5 skyline. I do hope that as more projects get built a number of units get put aside as affordable units, at least a quarter.

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Would the area used for the casino/ hotel condo development be the same site that was to have three sail shaped towers developed in conjuction with the building of Liberty National goif course... a
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Yes. It's a few hundred yards from the new Liberty Science Center hotel/school project. Expect a larger NJTurnpike interchange/exit to support it as well I'd imagine. Along with the 'stinky bridge' pedestrian bridge at the end of Jersey Avenue becoming upgraded to handle cars flowing that way.

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Would the area used for the casino/ hotel condo development be the same site that was to have three sail shaped towers developed in conjuction with the building of Liberty National goif course... a
project that was never built?

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South of the golf course is Port Liberte . . . at present, the site is across from the diner on the circle, adjacent to the Liberty National clubhouse.

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A relative of mine works at SIMS Metal, at the foot of Linden ave, stated they are closing within 4-5 years. During a morning safety meeting someone mentioned a casino is going in. Once (when, not if) law is changed for gambling to be legal outside of Atlantic City, this project will happen. Just hoping it will actually be on the south side of golf course, not near LSP.

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Politicians in NJ have a limited bag of tricks for raising revenue . New taxes or gambling . You can bank on this casino being built in JC with a % of the revenue going back to AC.

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Now we've got Sweeney, Lesniak, and Fulop all dancing around casino gambling in JC and the Meadowlands, and their own aspirations to try to be the next Governor. The backroom deal making going on could be a NJ Democratic politics case study.

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I can kinda see this happening and working and not being the huge disaster that everyone seems to think it will be. If it's on the waterfront down by Liberty State Park and Liberty National, it will likely be served with a private (and probably free) ferry service, as well as the light rail, not overly straining PATH (although the Casino increasing overnight PATH frequency could be useful). It'd also be right off the highway so it wouldn't strain local roads.

It really comes down to what sort of patronage they're going for - if they're talking $25 minimum table games and a big poker room, that's not going to attract the same undesirable element as penny slots and OTB. Will the restaurants be upscale like Vegas or the Borgata, or will they result in daiquiri-inspired riots like at Resorts World?

I mean, I personally hate gambling (too much like being at work), but the revenue it brings is undeniable, and the real problem with AC is that it's too far away for too many people. Put Revel in JC and it'd thrive.

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Just how much has state Senate President Stephen Sweeney changed his stance on expanding casino gaming to north Jersey?

Enough, apparently, to prompt the family of Paul Fireman, who wants to build a mega casino in Jersey City, to donate to his campaign fund.

Fireman's wife, son and daughter-in-law each donated $2,600 to Sweeney's (D-Gloucester) reelection fund in March, campaign finance records show.

Until last year, Sweeney had long opposed allowing casinos outside of Atlantic City. But the collapse of the casino industry there caused him to rethink his position. Instead, Sweeney has said he's open to allowing a couple casinos in northern New Jersey, if they provide hundreds of millions of dollars a year to help redevelop Atlantic City.

"I'm not dead-set against it," Sweeney said. "I didn't announce that we needed to do casinos in northern new Jersey because of Paul Fireman or anyone else. Atlantic City needs help. I was part of the five-year deal with the governor to fix Atlantic City. You see it's not working that well."

To make that happen, voters would need to approve a constitutional amendment. The Legislature could put that on the ballot this year with a three-fifths majority vote, though Sweeney said he's not sure he would want it in what's expected to be a low-turnout November election.

"We've got to figure out when we're going to do it. Because the reality is we're going to have a low-turnout election. So do you do it this year or next year?" Sweeney said.

The Firemans' support of Sweeney does, however, give ammunition to Atlantic County Republicans, who this year are trying to oust Assemblyman Vincent Mazzeo (D-Atlantic), a Sweeney ally. Mazzeo is the Assembly sponsor of measures championed by Sweeney to revive the resort.

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wow, i see that politicians are cheap in the people's republic of new jersey!

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Just how much has state Senate President Stephen Sweeney changed his stance on expanding casino gaming to north Jersey?

Enough, apparently, to prompt the family of Paul Fireman, who wants to build a mega casino in Jersey City, to donate to his campaign fund.

Fireman's wife, son and daughter-in-law each donated $2,600 to Sweeney's (D-Gloucester) reelection fund in March, campaign finance records show.

Until last year, Sweeney had long opposed allowing casinos outside of Atlantic City. But the collapse of the casino industry there caused him to rethink his position. Instead, Sweeney has said he's open to allowing a couple casinos in northern New Jersey, if they provide hundreds of millions of dollars a year to help redevelop Atlantic City.

"I'm not dead-set against it," Sweeney said. "I didn't announce that we needed to do casinos in northern new Jersey because of Paul Fireman or anyone else. Atlantic City needs help. I was part of the five-year deal with the governor to fix Atlantic City. You see it's not working that well."

To make that happen, voters would need to approve a constitutional amendment. The Legislature could put that on the ballot this year with a three-fifths majority vote, though Sweeney said he's not sure he would want it in what's expected to be a low-turnout November election.

"We've got to figure out when we're going to do it. Because the reality is we're going to have a low-turnout election. So do you do it this year or next year?" Sweeney said.

The Firemans' support of Sweeney does, however, give ammunition to Atlantic County Republicans, who this year are trying to oust Assemblyman Vincent Mazzeo (D-Atlantic), a Sweeney ally. Mazzeo is the Assembly sponsor of measures championed by Sweeney to revive the resort.

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Prediction: Several cities near NYC will all build casinos all chasing the same customers, and they will all become urban/suburban blights, and no doubt fall on the back of us taxpayers to bail out. Just look at AC, what a disaster.

Same in New Mexico where all the Indian tribes built casinos, and now most are bankrupt. Contrary to popular belief there is not an unlimited pot of fools to throw their cash away in these places.

And if JC has one and Newark has one and the Meadowlands has one and the Hudson Valley has one, and Conduit/JFK has one it seems pretty obvious that there are going to be alot of losers.

A wise person said Las Vegas wasn't built on the backs of winners!

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Better title for this thread: Holes in the heads of JC residents? A messed up doctor wants to make it happen

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A casino in Jersey City will be as successful as the monorail was in Springfield, Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrooke.


...and it put them on the map!


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It will be the highest grossing casino project for all of the attorneys involved in fighting for and against its approval.

To translate into the language of those not putting on their kneepads as they seek election, a windfall for any politican that supports this idea since the attorneys loaded with cash will then max out their contribution to these politicians election campaigns....ie Quid-Pro-Blo

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It will only fulfil the needs of manhattan high rollers while leaving JC with the social mess to deal with.

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A casino in Jersey City will be as successful as the monorail was in Springfield, Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrooke.

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Better late than never.

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How about a small, high minimums establishment with a dress code (Jacket and Tie?) for roulette, poker, craps, blackjack and Pai Gow.

If you want to play baccarat, Black Tie. And you can only drink Martinis - shaken, not stirred.

And, Absolutely NO slot machines

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Fulop should know better. Nothing makes an urban area crappier than a casino. I am starting to have my doubts about Fulop.

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It should read Vulture capitalist .

No doubt it would generate money for cityhall, but the social negative impact is too great and a stupid idea - Manhattan aren't that stupid to have one and we shouldn't either!

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Fulop: Casino in Jersey City would be highest-grossing in North America

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December 21, 2014 at 11:51 AM

Summoning his inner Donald Trump, Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop declares in today's Record, that a casino in Jersey City "would be the highest-grossing in North America, bigger than any Las Vegas casino."

Lawmakers in Trenton are hashing out a referendum that would appear on next November's ballot that would allow casino gambling in the state to expand beyond Atlantic City. To help sustain the struggling seaside resort, any new casinos in North Jersey would have to share a portion of its profits with Atlantic City.

No matter what the conditions are, Fulop is convinced casino investment in Jersey City is a no-brainer.

"There's only one place that every major casino operator in the country has come to check out and that's Jersey City," he tells The Record. "It's not rocket science. We're closest to Manhattan ... Open public bidding is fine, because from an economic standpoint, a (Jersey City proposal) would be the front-runner."

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State lawmakers are in serious discussions to craft a ballot question that would go to voters in November asking them to allow casino gambling in North Jersey, just as New York has denied six bids for casinos across the border in Orange County.

The decision Wednesday by the New York State Gaming Location Board to instead issue one license in the Catskills-Hudson Valley region relieves some of the pressure for New Jersey to approve and open a casino or casinos to fight competition from New York. The Catskills proposal is at least 80 miles from the Meadowlands, which could be a future North Jersey casino location.

But New Jersey legislators have stepped up negotiations for their plan to have voters decide next year whether to allow casino gambling beyond Atlantic City.

Details of the plan, which would require an amendment to the state constitution, are being worked out behind closed doors among just a few state legislators, including Senate President Stephen Sweeney, D-Gloucester, Assembly Speaker Vincent Prieto, D-Secaucus, and Sen. Paul Sarlo, D-Wood-Ridge, according to sources familiar with the discussions.

It is not clear in the private discussions among legislators how many casinos would be considered for North Jersey or where they would be located.

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ugh, does anyone remember what a cluster F it was after the superbowl trying to get people who DONT drive into and out of the meadowlands? Everyone trying to build a supermall/casino/waterpark/hotel venue should pitch in to improve the mass transit with either a light rail connecting to the existing HBLR or to help increasing capacity on the existing NJT line or not be allowed to build there. Rt 3 will not handle all this very well in the coming years.


60,000 people at one time is much, much different than the traffic that a casino would bring.

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ugh, does anyone remember what a cluster F it was after the superbowl trying to get people who DONT drive into and out of the meadowlands? Everyone trying to build a supermall/casino/waterpark/hotel venue should pitch in to improve the mass transit with either a light rail connecting to the existing HBLR or to help increasing capacity on the existing NJT line or not be allowed to build there. Rt 3 will not handle all this very well in the coming years.

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why the hell would anyone want to endure the hellish trip between manhattan and meadowlands to lose money


I would venture that at least half a million people "endure" this drive daily, but probably much more. It is about 20 minutes. Or, 40 with bad traffic. Not sure why you think that is particularly hellish. Care to explain?

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all these casino plans (buoyed by taxpaer funds) just shows how dysfunctional NJ is. why the hell would anyone want to endure the hellish trip between manhattan and meadowlands to lose money

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