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Re: Show a developer an abatement and they will come running
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Here is a link to HAP's most recent project, in upper Manhattan - http://newyorkyimby.com/2014/03/revealed-329-pleasant-avenue.html

I wonder if we'll finally get some "Starchitecture" in JC


Holy cow that pink and aqua is gaudy... Seems more South Beach than NYC.

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Here is a link to HAP's most recent project, in upper Manhattan - http://newyorkyimby.com/2014/03/revealed-329-pleasant-avenue.html

I wonder if we'll finally get some "Starchitecture" in JC

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http://www.delanceyplace.com/view_archives.php?2484#.UzQiepsn7U4

Posting this here to acquaint anyone who is not already aware of Jane Jacobs' work. I hope this whets the curiosity of a few people to read her books. There is usually a copy of Death and Life floating around the GVV booksale for 50 cents. It is also still in print. I believe that any sincere discussion of city development must take her ideas into consideration.

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The developers got a great deal! 28 million for the land and 400 million to develop, which will bring in lots of tenants (for builder) and tax base (for city). I suppose it is a win win but somehow i think the developer made out real well on this deal.


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So do you have an issue with the concept of abatements, or with adding apartment buildings, or both?

For me it's apartment buildings, I'd rather have owner occupied properties. Preferably condos which in theory are like apartment dwellings anyway. I am not a fan of absentee landlords.


+1 - with the added bonus that, at least in theory, condo owners are also interested in the upkeep/improvement of both the building and the vicinity, since it directly affects the value of their investment.

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So do you have an issue with the concept of abatements, or with adding apartment buildings, or both?

For me it's apartment buildings, I'd rather have owner occupied properties. Preferably condos which in theory are like apartment dwellings anyway. I am not a fan of absentee landlords.

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So do you have an issue with the concept of abatements, or with adding apartment buildings, or both?

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dude/gal, they are gonna pack us in like Sardines! now if christie had the foresight, they would have extended lightrail to seacaucus junction and had more convenient access to manhattan as well as the new tunnel

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The PATH better hurry up with their capital improvements to accomodate the anticipated increase in riders.

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...in the south, i think the saying is something like show a pig....

anyway, a new york developer is planning to buy a large parking lot in the journal square area...I

Property Deal in Jersey City to Get Tax Aid
Firm Agrees to Pay $28 million for Property in Journal Square

By KEIKO MORRIS CONNECT
March 25, 2014 10:38 p.m. ET
A New York developer is in contract to buy a site in the heart of Jersey City's Journal Square, an area the city has been targeting for development with a revamped program of tax incentives.

HAP Investments LLC was in contract to pay $28 million for 80,000 square feet at 500 Summit Ave., said Eran Polack, chief executive of HAP.

The firm has yet to work out the exact plans for the site?now partly covered by a parking lot?but Mr. Polack said it could accommodate a 42-story, 1-million-square-foot tower for rental housing.

A project that size could cost $400 million to develop. It could incorporate either a hotel or offices, with a park and about 35,000 square feet of retail space as likely elements. He declined to name the seller.

This will be the first New Jersey project for the firm, which has focused on Manhattan, Mr. Polack said. High land prices spurred HAP to look for development opportunities 35 to 40 minutes outside of Manhattan, he said. And Jersey City has been aggressive about attracting developers to Journal Square, situated close to a PATH station and bus terminal.

"Journal Square is very close to Manhattan," Mr. Polack said. With the PATH train service, "in 15 minutes you are on 34th Street." And, he said, "the city is very pro-development."

HAP Investments is the sort of developer Jersey City has been hoping to bring to Journal Square for decades, said Mayor Steven Fulop. His administration made an overhaul of the city's tax-abatement program one of its priorities, shifting focus from the waterfront to Journal Square and other inland areas with better transit options. In the past, the system didn't clearly distinguish incentives to build in the city's inland sections, he said.

The incentives provide four tiers of tax abatements for developers lasting between five and 30 years, offering the longest terms to those building in targeted areas.

About 10 projects in the Journal Square area are in the planning or development stages, including a 53-story tower the Kushner Real Estate Group is building, Mr. Fulop said. That tower is one of three planned residential buildings in Kushner's Journal Square development project, which received tax abatements devised under the new system.

"We have created an incentive program that has changed the dynamic," he said. "Seeing an acquisition like this is consistent with the types of investments we are seeing there.....

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...in the south, i think the saying is something like show a pig....

anyway, a new york developer is planning to buy a large parking lot in the journal square area...I

Property Deal in Jersey City to Get Tax Aid
Firm Agrees to Pay $28 million for Property in Journal Square

By KEIKO MORRIS CONNECT
March 25, 2014 10:38 p.m. ET
A New York developer is in contract to buy a site in the heart of Jersey City's Journal Square, an area the city has been targeting for development with a revamped program of tax incentives.

HAP Investments LLC was in contract to pay $28 million for 80,000 square feet at 500 Summit Ave., said Eran Polack, chief executive of HAP.

The firm has yet to work out the exact plans for the site?now partly covered by a parking lot?but Mr. Polack said it could accommodate a 42-story, 1-million-square-foot tower for rental housing.

A project that size could cost $400 million to develop. It could incorporate either a hotel or offices, with a park and about 35,000 square feet of retail space as likely elements. He declined to name the seller.

This will be the first New Jersey project for the firm, which has focused on Manhattan, Mr. Polack said. High land prices spurred HAP to look for development opportunities 35 to 40 minutes outside of Manhattan, he said. And Jersey City has been aggressive about attracting developers to Journal Square, situated close to a PATH station and bus terminal.

"Journal Square is very close to Manhattan," Mr. Polack said. With the PATH train service, "in 15 minutes you are on 34th Street." And, he said, "the city is very pro-development."

HAP Investments is the sort of developer Jersey City has been hoping to bring to Journal Square for decades, said Mayor Steven Fulop. His administration made an overhaul of the city's tax-abatement program one of its priorities, shifting focus from the waterfront to Journal Square and other inland areas with better transit options. In the past, the system didn't clearly distinguish incentives to build in the city's inland sections, he said.

The incentives provide four tiers of tax abatements for developers lasting between five and 30 years, offering the longest terms to those building in targeted areas.

About 10 projects in the Journal Square area are in the planning or development stages, including a 53-story tower the Kushner Real Estate Group is building, Mr. Fulop said. That tower is one of three planned residential buildings in Kushner's Journal Square development project, which received tax abatements devised under the new system.

"We have created an incentive program that has changed the dynamic," he said. "Seeing an acquisition like this is consistent with the types of investments we are seeing there.....

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