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Yes, googly eyed Zimmer is in deep doo doo.

Does she keep a diary as she claimed, or doesn't as she said under oath? Why is her husband, who holds no office, acting for the town of Hoboken?

And if you believe she doesn't know what her husband is up to, the you must believe Christie didn't know what a STAFFER was up to, yes?

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... html#incart_river_default

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Hoboken Site Developer Dismisses Law Firm

By CHARLES V. BAGLIJAN. 30, 2014

Rockefeller Group, a real estate developer whose proposed office complex in Hoboken, N.J., is at the center of allegations that associates of Gov. Chris Christie threatened to withhold Hurricane Sandy relief money from the city unless the project received approval, has severed its connections with a law firm with close ties to the governor.

Rockefeller Group said on Thursday that last week it had terminated its contract with the firm, Wolff & Samson, ending a relationship that began in 2007.

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With a current suspected corrupt and inept Governor, it leaves the door WIDE open for an honest 'Mayor' the step up ... Governor Fulop sounds good!

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Garcia isn't a partisan, he's simply a corrupt whore only out for himself to collect as many public jobs and pensions as he can, like most HCDO players. He saw this as another chance to hurt his antagonist Dawn at a time when her credibility is being attacked, it's that simple. While I appreciate the irony of the symmetry with her allegations at CC, that's about where it ends. She was a CC supporter, Garcia has been at war with her for years and had an identical lawsuit thrown out only weeks ago.

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Ask yourself: If Christie wanted a robust and independent watchdog to lift the bar on ethics, would he appoint someone who for years was part of the very team she is supposed to now police?

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A Democratic state assemblyman suing a Democratic mayor is somehow a Republican dirty trick?

I hear Christie has something to do with the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. Better call Loretta Weinberg to send out some subpoenas!

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Since you're using Slate to support your thoughts, how do you reconcile Slate disproving Obama's claim about income inequality between men and women, one of his major vital 'year of action' pillars? Is Slate a reliable source, or do you pick and choose depending on your politics?

And isn't a Governor's job to bring to bring development and jobs in urban areas that are run down??

(We just have Fulop speaking wonderfully about a hotel project in JC that he opposed as Councilman).

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keeping emails and a diary are two different things. who keeps a diary? i'm not even sure that teenage girls keep diaries anymore...I know i don't

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Yeah forget the fact that Dawn is being discredited day after day, these lemmings only hear/believe what they've already predetermined in their own minds.

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Googly eyed Zimmer testified under oath that she didn't keep a diary or keep conversation records.

Then she claims she wrote in a diary about Guadagno.

8 months after the fact. After she told people in Hoboken she voted for Christie.

Oopsie.

Can you say a brunette Ramona Singer?

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christie and team aren't just rogue and dumb, but stupid. don't they know that these things must be handled delicately as margaret hamilton so famously said.

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I have little doubt that Christie is a "SOCIOPATH" and employees key "CORPORATE PSYCHOPATHS" to do his work.

Google the terms and Christie with his administration fit the definition !

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This clown Garcia and his slimeball lawyer have been at war with, and suing, Dawn for ages. His previous suit was thrown out earlier in the month. Nothing new here at all except he's thrown in some new lies to get another bite at the apple. See this article from August. Interesting comments too.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... leansing_in_law_suit.html

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... gainst_hoboken_mayor.html

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The political battle continues in Hoboken. I think this has nothing to do with Christie. There's enough bad blood between Garcia/HCDO and Zimmer:


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Christie scandal: New allegations emerge from Zimmer lawsuit

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on January 29, 2014 at 8:32 PM, updated January 29, 2014 at 9:52 PM

Christie scandal: New allegations emerge from Zimmer lawsuit

HOBOKEN ? Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer threatened to fire Carmelo Garcia, director of the local housing authority, unless he agreed to hire politically connected contractors, a recently filed lawsuit claims.

Zimmer?s lawyer says the claims are baseless and suggested they are retaliation engineered by Christie allies.

The strong-arm tactics alleged by Garcia, who is also a Democratic assemblyman, come two weeks after Zimmer, also a Democrat, claimed in a nationally televised interview that the Christie administration threatened to withhold Hurricane Sandy recover money for Hoboken unless she agreed to fast-track a development project the governor backed.

In the lawsuit filed last week in Superior Court in Jersey City, Garcia claims Zimmer pressured him to award contracts to her political allies. When he resisted, Zimmer and her husband, Stanley Grossbard, ?began to subject Director Garcia to an unlawful pattern of harassment, threats, intimidation and extortion,? the suit claims.

According to the lawsuit, Zimmer?s allies on the housing authority board proposed a resolution to terminate Garcia. The motion failed, the lawsuit states.

Housing authorities are federally funded agencies but their boards are generally appointed by mayors and municipal councils. The directors usually have the authority to hire and fire staff but must obtain approval from a board of commissioners to award contracts.

After taking over as mayor in 2009, Zimmer, like most other mayors, tried to appoint allies to the board. Garcia has been housing director since 2010.

According to court documents, Garcia called a lunch meeting with Grossbard in January 2013, during which they had a long conversation about Garcia?s actions as director of the housing authority and Zimmer?s plans for city development. Unbeknownst to Grossbard, Garcia was recording the meeting, documents state.

?I can tell you that Dawn is not sitting there saying this is dead in the water,? Grossbard told Garcia, according to a transcript of the conversation included in the lawsuit. ?If there is a plan that is moving forward, it has to be with her understanding and input and not that Carmelo Garcia wants to do it.?

Grossbard was referring to a proposal to build more than 1,000 low-income and market-rate units in Hoboken over the next 10 years, court documents state.

Gerald Krovatin, a lawyer for Zimmer, said there was nothing untoward about the meeting.

?Garcia attempted to bait Mr. Grossbard by offering to support Mayor Zimmer in the upcoming mayoral election in exchange for job security and greater autonomy in running the Hoboken Housing Authority in Garcia?s position as its executive director,? Krovatin said in a statement. ?Mr. Grossbard rejected any such overtures and repeatedly told Mr. Garcia that, while he did not speak for the mayor, Garcia should follow the law and all proper procedures for conducting the business of the Housing Authority.?

In a deposition taken seven months later for another lawsuit, Zimmer testified that her husband doesn?t play an active role in her administration.

?Has (Grossbard) ever engaged on your behalf speaking with lawyers and ... board members of agencies that are located in Hoboken for which he advocated your position as mayor?? attorney Louis Zayas asked Zimmer in the deposition.

?No, he hasn?t,? she replied.

Grossbard, who could not be reached for comment today, was active in Hoboken civic life before his wife was elected to public office.

The lawsuit, first reported by NJTV, was filed by Zayas, the same attorney who last week claimed Zimmer lied about keeping a diary. A similar suit was filed in August but was dismissed.

Zayas said today he believes Zimmer was also lying about her husband?s role in her administration. In September, he filed a motion in Superior Court to hold her in contempt for committing perjury, but the motion was rejected.

?She definitely tried to mislead me in suggesting her husband did not play a role in her administration,? Zayas said. Garcia did not respond to requests for comment.

Krovatin questioned why the tapes were released now.

?There was a suggestion in the NJTV report that Mr. Garcia may have released the secret tape at this time as part of an effort by him and Sen. Brian Stack, a strong supporter of Governor Christie, to retaliate against Mayor Zimmer for coming forward,? Krovatin said.

?If that is true, this is a particularly disturbing development in this case and it should be investigated by the appropriate authorities.?

A spokesman for Christie declined to comment.

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Really? Because sovereignty and "state's rights" don't sound all that great when the state wants to deprive you of your civil rights ala "Jim Crow", deprive you of the right to organize against deadly working conditions, or deprive you of your life and liberty as in every genocidal dictatorship ever. I'm certain Joe Stalin and Pol Pot were advocates of sovereignty and "state's right's", why should anyone have a right to criticize the way they ran their countries and ask them to "march in formation" with the unreasonable western ideas of civilization?


Replace "state" with "federal" in your post and you can see why your argument doesn't hold up.


Don't see that at all. I explicitly conflated sovereignty and states rights to make no distinction between sovereign states such as federations and states composing such federations. The right of a state to mistreat it's citizens, whether it's Syria or Alabama, should not be absolute in a just world. Sadly, almost all the time we're OK with it as long as they keep it within their borders. Had Hitler not invaded Poland he could have killed all the Jews, gays and Roma he liked and no one would have lifted a finger. Because there was no reason to "force him to march in formation". (Godwin, forgive me!)

So while it would be exaggerating to equate Texas having 25% of it's residents without healthcare coverage to industrialized murder or slavery, the vast majority of our 1st world peer nations would agree that they're being deprived of a human right.

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Really? Because sovereignty and "state's rights" don't sound all that great when the state wants to deprive you of your civil rights ala "Jim Crow", deprive you of the right to organize against deadly working conditions, or deprive you of your life and liberty as in every genocidal dictatorship ever. I'm certain Joe Stalin and Pol Pot were advocates of sovereignty and "state's right's", why should anyone have a right to criticize the way they ran their countries and ask them to "march in formation" with the unreasonable western ideas of civilization?


Replace "state" with "federal" in your post and you can see why your argument doesn't hold up.

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I laugh when the public transportation advocates say that huge budgets and cost overruns don't matter. They are also the first ones to complain when the when these independent transportation authorities have to raise the ticket prices. No accountability is the real issue and that is what not surprisingly created today's ongoing issues with the Big Dig and killed a woman when the ceiling tiles crashed on her car.


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A canard. If the other groups who would share in the benefits of the tunnel, NY and the Feds, would have agreed to equally share the inevitable cost overruns (see the Boston Big Dig), then the deal would've been done.

They refused, and Christie, rightfully, pulled the plug on what would have cost NJ taxpayers untold BILLIONS of dollars while NY and the region reaped the benefits of the project.


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Really? Because sovereignty and "state's rights" don't sound all that great when the state wants to deprive you of your civil rights ala "Jim Crow", deprive you of the right to organize against deadly working conditions, or deprive you of your life and liberty as in every genocidal dictatorship ever. I'm certain Joe Stalin and Pol Pot were advocates of sovereignty and "state's right's", why should anyone have a right to criticize the way they ran their countries and ask them to "march in formation" with the unreasonable western ideas of civilization?

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First of all, Romneycare didn't work out so well, MA has the highest rate of spending on healthcare in the nation, but there is no info on it being the healthiest.


I'm a pharma research analyst and there's a ton of data related to public health that strongly suggest that MA outperforms other states, especially southern red states, on most key metrics used to gauge overall public health.

I don't trust most media statistics, but since you seem to distrust any arm of government, here's data from Business Insider on overall health by state; MA comes in fourth overall:
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If you'd like to debate this topic, you'd be more persuasive by providing some evidence.

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Wow. Sorry you had such a bad experience before you moved here.

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Because the "conservative" red state heartland of America is the real 47%, taking far more than they give.


Well, if that were true, Democrats would have been the biggest supporters of the return to the federalist principles ever.

Imagine if the Federal Government were doing only what the Consitution says it can, - and the rest, from Medicare to pensions - was done by the States. So, a Democrat state can enact whatever obamacare they want, not wasting time on persuading the Republican states to follow. No time wasted, no need to have persuade anyone, - any policy you want, - DONE!

If you really believed that staff about how Democrats are donors, - you'd vote for this with both hands.


That's exactly what Massachusetts (a donor state) did, under Romney. And it worked so well that (just as the "states should be laboratories for what works" crowd advocates) the president decided to implement it for everyone , because he is responsible for EVERYONE. It should no more be OK with DC for Texas to have 25% of it's people without health insurance than for them to have 25% in slavery, the original states rights argument.

State's rights is usually a race to the bottom. Witness how all the credit card banks migrated to SD after they were allowed to do interstate baking by the laws of any state, and SD had no usury laws. Delaware give corporations unusual amounts of legal leeway and protection, and surprise! Massive number of corporations have their mailboxes there.


First of all, Romneycare didn't work out so well, MA has the highest rate of spending on healthcare in the nation, but there is no info on it being the healthiest.

Second, predictably, you are immediately looking for reasons not to go state-by-state. Gloom and doom if we do. Of course, all those arguments are unpersuasive, - let the conservative states race to the bottom, while your glorious Democrat states march toward hope and change. I mean, - nobody can take it away from you. You do not need Texas and North Dakota and Utah to follow you. You can build whatever you want in New jersey, New York, California. No waiting, no raging against some Republicans who object and block your wonderful ideas.

There is just one reason to want to force everyone march in formation.




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Because the "conservative" red state heartland of America is the real 47%, taking far more than they give.


Well, if that were true, Democrats would have been the biggest supporters of the return to the federalist principles ever.

Imagine if the Federal Government were doing only what the Consitution says it can, - and the rest, from Medicare to pensions - was done by the States. So, a Democrat state can enact whatever obamacare they want, not wasting time on persuading the Republican states to follow. No time wasted, no need to have persuade anyone, - any policy you want, - DONE!

If you really believed that staff about how Democrats are donors, - you'd vote for this with both hands.


That's exactly what Massachusetts (a donor state) did, under Romney. And it worked so well that (just as the "states should be laboratories for what works" crowd advocates) the president decided to implement it for everyone , because he is responsible for EVERYONE. It should no more be OK with DC for Texas to have 25% of it's people without health insurance than for them to have 25% in slavery, the original states rights argument.

State's rights is usually a race to the bottom. Witness how all the credit card banks migrated to SD after they were allowed to do interstate baking by the laws of any state, and SD had no usury laws. Delaware give corporations unusual amounts of legal leeway and protection, and surprise! Massive number of corporations have their mailboxes there.

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Because the "conservative" red state heartland of America is the real 47%, taking far more than they give.


Well, if that were true, Democrats would have been the biggest supporters of the return to the federalist principles ever.

Imagine if the Federal Government were doing only what the Consitution says it can, - and the rest, from Medicare to pensions - was done by the States. So, a Democrat state can enact whatever obamacare they want, not wasting time on persuading the Republican states to follow. No time wasted, no need to have persuade anyone, - any policy you want, - DONE!

If you really believed that staff about how Democrats are donors, - you'd vote for this with both hands.




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Er, who holds the Senate now??? Last I saw it was the Democrats????


Sorry to shatter your partisan bubble, but not everything in DC is D vs R. But perhaps enabling each other to bring home the pork is the ONLY bipartisan cooperation going on.

Let me spell it out- since a state with 500k citizens has 2 senators same as CA with 35m, the small state tends to get more pork and such per capita as those senators trade their votes for their pork. So that explains the hi-lo density issue, but doesn't explain the confederacy with so many non-taxpayers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckon ... more_from_your_taxes.html


I'd be happy if we were in the top half . . . but we aren't even close. What exactly are our Democrat Senators doing, besides Menendez shilling for Florida expat Ecuadorians and other Latinos? Instead of lobbying for these people maybe some more effort for NJ taxpayers would be proper?

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Er, who holds the Senate now??? Last I saw it was the Democrats????


Sorry to shatter your partisan bubble, but not everything in DC is D vs R. But perhaps enabling each other to bring home the pork is the ONLY bipartisan cooperation going on.

Let me spell it out- since a state with 500k citizens has 2 senators same as CA with 35m, the small state tends to get more pork and such per capita as those senators trade their votes for their pork. So that explains the hi-lo density issue, but doesn't explain the confederacy with so many non-taxpayers.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckon ... more_from_your_taxes.html

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oh please..christie is not going to the white house! christie's record in nj is just pathetic. even worse than rick perry in texas


The road to the White House.

4 American's dead is Benghazi.

A traffic jam in Ft. Lee.

A Governor taking a two hour press conference answering every question.

A Secretary of State with an Immaculate concussion.

Who has more downside?

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