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Re: PATH service going up in a few weeks!
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What's there to complain about regarding the fare increase? How selfish can you be. Don't you realize that not only is your money going towards the job stimulus program for the construction unions but it also is paying for the votes that people like Senator Menedez and Senator Lautenberg bought for themselves when pushing for the Port Authority spending projects. I mean come on, a 2 for 1 deal. You are not supposed to complain about that!

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Perhaps someone is taking a long bathroom break...

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Is there any rational reason why they have a signal problem almost every other day?

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What a shame for people to be paying for that big building's bloated costs. The cherry on top is being squeezed in like sardines. Really wish Path could be taken away from Port Authority in some way.


+1 What really made me nauseous at the hearings a couple of years ago was how the construction unions turned out to push a fare increase to pick our pockets so they'd get jobs. There was no real justification for the PA to be in the office space business that they'd gotten out of just prior to 9/11 (by leasing the whole WTC to Silverman), and had no business being in to begin with.

As I've said in other threads, PATH should be given to the MTA, or at least NJT, organizations that are primarily about mass transit, not empire building like the PA just to justify it's existence. It was created to promote commercial traffic, and has rarely stuck to it's mission.

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What a shame for people to be paying for that big building's bloated costs. The cherry on top is being squeezed in like sardines. Really wish Path could be taken away from Port Authority in some way.

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For more details regarding the PATH fare increase as well as the tunnel tolls, see the following link: http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press-item.cfm?headLine_id=1445


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stock up on your path card now. buy 40 trips or more and save some dough ahead of time

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Old news really.

The NY & NJ Governors "saved us" two years ago and averted a $2 to $2.75 fare hike. Instead, the hike will hit us $0.25 at a time, each year, around September.

And yes, this fare hike is to pay for 1 WTC cost overruns.


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hope it is accompanied by an "increase" in frequency of service or better maintained cars..isn't this the 2nd increase within the year???

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Uh, so why is it so quiet here about that?

Didn't it just go up recently?

Here's what I found on my workplace bulletin board

PATH Fare Increases
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PATH) has announced a fare increase that will go into effect on October 1, 2013. Below is a list of the new fares.
Type Cost
Single Ride $2.50
2-trip $5.00
10-trip $19.00
20-trip $38.00
40-trip $76.00
30-Day pass $80.00
7-Day pass $26.00

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I learned something today that makes me wonder if PATH fares will be raised again (beyond the already announced increases).

Apparently, the WTC site took a lot more damage than the PA has let on. The flooding destroyed two years worth of work including some very expensive fuel cells, switchgear, and a lot of other equipment.

The PA has been moving the equipment out at night to a hanger at JFK to see what can be repaired and salvaged.

Gawd only knows what the $$$ will be to cover the damage.


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By Charles Hack/The Jersey Journal
December 03, 2012 at 12:07 PM

...A lawsuit filed against the Port Authority by AAA claims the new revenue is instead intended for real estate development at the new World Trade Center site, not transportation-related expenses as the Port Authority claims.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... horitys.html#incart_river

I understand the court sided with the PA, anyone have any updates on whether the AAA plans to appeal or what the next step may be?

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The farce of how they went implementing these tolls and increases...is the reason i will not vote for Chris Christie like last time.

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The controversial increases were approved last year by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, with the bistate agency saying it needs the revenue to fund a 10-year, $25.1 billion capital-improvements plan.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... horitys.html#incart_river



The sad thing is that it will most likely end up costing more than 25.1 billion...

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"I don't go to Manhattan because it's (the tolls) so expensive," Kleman said. "I would rather take the PATH."


Excellent, that is exactly what should be happening.

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Drivers blast Port Authority's Hudson River toll hikes

By Charles Hack/The Jersey Journal
December 03, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Toll hikes went into effect today at all of the Port Authority's Hudson River crossings, and drivers heading into --and in some cases avoiding -- the Holland Tunnel yesterday afternoon from Jersey City were not happy.

"I think it sucks," said taxi driver Edward Melnikov while he was gassing up at a station just outside the tunnel.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey increased cash tolls for the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, as well as the Bayonne Bridge, from $12 to $13 yesterday.

Drivers using E-ZPass will have to fork over $10.25 during peak commuting hours -- that's up from $9.50 -- and $8.25 during off-peak hours, up from $7.50.

Cash tolls increased at the same crossings in September 2011 from $8 to $12, and from $8 to $9.50 during peak hours for E-ZPass users.

By December 2015 cash tolls are slated to increase to $15, while peak-hour tolls for E-ZPass users are to rise to $12.50.

Jersey City residents Malene Kleman, 25, and Michael Stentebjerg, 28, were filling up at a gas station near the Holland Tunnel yesterday but had no intention of driving into Manhattan, because according to Stentebjerg, tolls are already "too damn high."

"I don't go to Manhattan because it's (the tolls) so expensive," Kleman said. "I would rather take the PATH."

The controversial increases were approved last year by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, with the bistate agency saying it needs the revenue to fund a 10-year, $25.1 billion capital-improvements plan.

"The whole thing is ludicrous because it's all going to the World Trade Center," New Jersey based-limousine driver, Jeroy Klunek, 72, said yesterday. "It gives us nothing ...They keep raising the costs, raising the costs and raising the costs."

A lawsuit filed against the Port Authority by AAA claims the new revenue is instead intended for real estate development at the new World Trade Center site, not transportation-related expenses as the Port Authority claims.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... horitys.html#incart_river

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http://www.panynj.gov/path/fares-new.html
Effective 3:00 am Monday morning single ride PATH fares rise 25 cents to $2.25.

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PATH fare hikes take effect Monday

Thursday, September 27, 2012, 3:55 PM
By Ana Ferrer/The Jersey Journal

PATH train riders be advised, the price of a one-way ride is going up 25 cents Monday to $2.25.

The change takes effect at 3 a.m. Monday.

"I need to find a new job," joked Nisa Ahmed, a worker at Hudson County Community College, who currently spends $13.50 a day between her PATH and NJ Transit train rides, commuting from Rahway.

Ahmed, like others The Jersey Journal spoke to, didn't realize the fare hike was imminent.

This latest fare increase comes as part of a plan to raise the tolls and fares until 2015 when a one-way PATH fare will be $2.75.

Todd Fulford, of Manhattan, who uses the PATH train frequently during the week, said the 25 cents increase was well worth the service. "It is what it is. It's clean and fast, and gets me from my office in the city to my warehouse in Jersey City," he said.

In Hudson County, there are PATH train stops in Jersey City, Hoboken, and Harrison.

The new fares are being raised across the board, including the multi-day passes. For example, a seven-day Smart Link pass will be raised $3 from $21 to $24. The 30-day Smart Link pass will be $73, up $8 from $65.

For more information about the fare hikes, visit the Port Authority website, wwwpanynj.gov

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _go_into_effect_on_m.html

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It saddens me that people mistake wasting tens of billions on a useless symbol for greatness, when the true future of our country, it's children and infrastructure, are being shortchanged by acts like cancelling the ARC, slashing school funding and doubling student loan rates.


+1

BTW, love the giant penis imagery.

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I am sure many would disagree but I really wish they had turned it into a memorial/museum and a public park....instead of building two new towers. People luv to proclaim it as hallowed and sacred ground.....but to me it just doesn't seem it's all that if you are rebuilding for the sake of business and capitalism. To the Silversteins and other vested interests it's about the all mighty dollar.

I thought we were better than that as a country.

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is the PATH really going up to 2.75, because that would be obscene. that's more than MTA which is a far more extensive network, plus the PATH doesn't link up with anything so you always have to do double-fare, whether it's path-to-mta, path-to-lightrail, path-to-bus. the path is convenient for shuttling people across the hudson but it's not much more than that.

Heights say quit your bitching, enjoy the view of the big dick in the sky you're paying for, and be proud you're an American (if you happen to be, that is)

So where's my quote ? My only complaint was that they did not build another Twin Towers. I am happy to show American might with this new Freedom Tower. As far as your name for it the Big Rich in the sky is obscene and insulting towards the new tower.


I was paraphrasing!

It saddens me that people mistake wasting tens of billions on a useless symbol for greatness, when the true future of our country, it's children and infrastructure, are being shortchanged by acts like cancelling the ARC, slashing school funding and doubling student loan rates.

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is the PATH really going up to 2.75, because that would be obscene. that's more than MTA which is a far more extensive network, plus the PATH doesn't link up with anything so you always have to do double-fare, whether it's path-to-mta, path-to-lightrail, path-to-bus. the path is convenient for shuttling people across the hudson but it's not much more than that.

Heights say quit your bitching, enjoy the view of the big dick in the sky you're paying for, and be proud you're an American (if you happen to be, that is)

So where's my quote ? My only complaint was that they did not build another Twin Towers. I am happy to show American might with this new Freedom Tower. As far as your name for it the Big Rich in the sky is obscene and insulting towards the new tower.

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Brewster... eloquent as usual.

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is the PATH really going up to 2.75, because that would be obscene. that's more than MTA which is a far more extensive network, plus the PATH doesn't link up with anything so you always have to do double-fare, whether it's path-to-mta, path-to-lightrail, path-to-bus. the path is convenient for shuttling people across the hudson but it's not much more than that.


Heights say quit your bitching, enjoy the view of the big dick in the sky you're paying for, and be proud you're an American (if you happen to be, that is)

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is the PATH really going up to 2.75, because that would be obscene. that's more than MTA which is a far more extensive network, plus the PATH doesn't link up with anything so you always have to do double-fare, whether it's path-to-mta, path-to-lightrail, path-to-bus. the path is convenient for shuttling people across the hudson but it's not much more than that.

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Actually, the Port Authority's stated mission includes economic development within a radius of 25 miles of the Statue of Liberty, which includes things like land development as well transportation projects. The World Trade Center might be one of their largest and most visible projects, but they reinvest as far south as New Brunswick.


Yes, I know, I recently finished the PA history "Empire on the Hudson". Nice how loose that is. Made it easy to grab whatever they thought could be profitable. They were the original vampire squid. The PA by being a quasi-govt agency demanded monopolies, It's like one of those trees that poisons the ground around it, making it impossible for anything else to grow. They were formed to create trans Hudson freight rail, never did it, but prevented anyone else from doing it. A NY mayor (O'dwyer I think) tried to build one under the Verrazano and the PA stopped them. This turned out to be a big component in the death of the Brooklyn dockyards.

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Actually, the Port Authority's stated mission includes economic development within a radius of 25 miles of the Statue of Liberty, which includes things like land development as well transportation projects. The World Trade Center might be one of their largest and most visible projects, but they reinvest as far south as New Brunswick.

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The original World Trade Center took two and a half decades before it became breaking even on rent. But it was part of an iconic skyline that helped drive tourism in lower Manhattan; it was a driving force in other private development in lower Manhattan; it served as a broadcast tower for television and radio; it eventually did start generating profits.

Large scale capital investments like the World Trade Center redevelopment are not going to return dividends overnight. But with this development a great number of good things will happen. Lower Manhattan's transit will be better connected than ever before, linking Fulton Street, Courtland Street, Chambers Street, PATH and the World Financial center underground. The 9/11 memorial museum is projected to bring 4,000,000 million tourists to the city in the first year alone. The first tower will hold tens of thousands of jobs, all easily accessible by the PATH.

Certainly some mistakes have been made. Its over budget, in part to keep it on schedule. Its screwed up the weekend PATH schedules, which has a lot to do with poor management. But to condemn the project overall is inaccurate. Besides that, increasing tolls into Manhattan is simply good public policy. It reduces traffic congestion while generating revenue for projects like the ARC tunnel and PATH capital programs. If you're really upset, be angry with Christie first for canceling the tunnel, then lying about the reasons.

Manhattan will have congestion pricing sooner or later, and the bridge and tunnel tolls have long been part of that scheme. A little over a century ago the first subways were dug; now we couldn't imagine a major metropolitan city anywhere in the world without them. As cities become denser, congestion tolls in some form will become ever more pervasive.


Even if you accept the reality of those benefits (I think they're fiction), since they overwhelmingly benefit NYC rather than NJ, there's no reason that NJ must pay for for it. NY & NYC has little skin in this game. But I think those numbers are hooey, no one will come to NY solely to view the memorial, just as no one comes solely to see the Intrepid. It's just another "attraction", albeit a morbid one.

And while the case for higher tolls can be made, that doesn't justify the PATH hike. Nor is the case compelling that this ridiculous tower is a better way to spend those funds rather than, say, the late lamented ARC tunnel. The PA simply has no business in the commercial real estate game, and never did. The only reason for the WTC to begin with was they needed to invest their enormous cashflow in the early 60's or lose control of it.

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Then consider it your contribution to the memory of the 9-11 tragedy. I wish they could have made Twin Towers again.


Really, you're all behind a $15 Billion tombstone?


well, we've got that $20 million tombstone in LSP. in for a penny, in for a pound.

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Then consider it your contribution to the memory of the 9-11 tragedy. I wish they could have made Twin Towers again.


Really, you're all behind a $15 Billion tombstone?

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