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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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Mind you, I was only referring to 50% as the percentage of people who walk off leash, not the percentage who don't clean the poop. Make sure you understand that.

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Well, mdips, I have a balcony that faces morris canal park, and here are the latest counts based on my actual observations:

Sunday: 2 PMish: 18 dogs in the park, 8 off leash, 2 pooped with no pick up from owners (those 2 were from off leash dogs) - 8/18 = 44% (you barely win)
Monday 6:30 PM-ish: 22 dogs in the park. 11 off leash; 11/20 = 55%
Tuesday, 8:30 AM: 5 dogs in the park, 3 off leash; 3/5 = 60%
Tuesday 6:30 PMish: 15 dogs in the park, 3 off leash ; 3/15 = 20% (you win this round)
This morning, 8:30 AM: 3 dogs in the park, 3 off leash; 3/3 = 100%

Average: 55.8% I win.

Now, I know you'll come back with something smarmy and point out that you went there and 100% of the dogs were on leash. I get it. Clearly I am not making the argument that all dogs are off leash at all times. That would be stupid.

There's also no dogs in the park at 3 AM most nights, so?

Some days it's just out of control. And again, approaching dog owners to ask them to comply is not even worth the time and hassle of being berated by owners who ARE IN THE WRONG. Debate it all you want, but you're wrong and you know it.

I'll say it again and again, the law is on my side on this one.

If there are other issues residents feel are important, than by all means, start a post, gather people and take action. But don't use the excuse of "well there are other more pressing problems" or "well kids play soccer in non soccer areas against ordinance" to justify why this isn't a problem.



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Actually, if you go to any of the parks, Morris Canal especially, on any given day, it's closer to 50% or more, but nice try.

Secondly, no one's requesting the entire JCPD drop major crime investigation to stop the dreaded dog poop problem.

It takes one cop, with a ticket book and a pen, for MAYBE an hour total to hit the three major parks in DTJC. Problem solved. I seriously doubt one diverted cop, who is already patrolling DTJC, will miss out on the big drug ring bust they're so fond of doing.

Rather than being a pretentious DB, you can actually contribute something constructive to the discussion.

I should have known with your hipsterific avatar that we were dealing with a superior intelligence here.

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Maybe 3% of dog owners walk their pups off leash. Probably about 3% don't pick up the poop. I would say 50% of the drivers in DTJC break the law, speed, roll through Stop signs etc. The ticket for off-leash dog is $56.00. You really think the cops are going to throw out some big dragnet to catch dog walkers? Good Luck Joe Friday.


Sorry, it's definitely not 3% but it's also nowhere near 50%, so nice try. If half the dog owners at morris canal park on any given day didn't pick up after their dogs your feet wouldn't even hit the grass.

The bigger crap problem in the park is from the geese. If half of your big concern is keeping crap out of the park they should be your first target.
"Geese feces usually contain the parasites cryptosporidium, giardia, coliform, and campylobacter. Cryptosporidium poses the most serious health hazard...responsible for a 1993 outbreak of disease in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, when the city's water supply became contaminated. One hundred people died and 400,000 became ill during this epidemic."

And FYI, Animal Control does patrol Morris Canal park on a regular basis. Once the weather started getting better they were showing up on an almost daily basis in the mornings.

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Look out folks, we have our first troll!! I'm mad because I took the over on 1 week before a troll showed up.

For those of you unfamiliar, a troll is someone who posts on message boards, but whose opinion offers nothing constructive at all towards a solution or to further detail a problem.

Rather, this person covers up their lack of utility by busting out a lot of SAT-quality words they learned reading a Kurt Vonnegut or Noam Chomsky book. They feel that by sounding intelligent, people will infer that they are intelligent. Do not be fooled.

Duh, your opinion is about as useless as tits on a bull. In fact your opinion is equivalent to "don't know" or "undecided" responses people give on surveys.

Much like a previous posted said...post your address and I will personally pick up all the dog droppings and leave them at your doorstep. Cool?

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The revulsion I feel toward so many of the opinions on this thread, should be second only to how sick you make yourselves. I don't understand the slavish adherence to 'the law.' So many of you people are looking to shame, tattle, rat out, your own neighbors - to be fined and punished for something like a leash law. Yes, people should leash their dogs, and pick up the poop, or else the rest of us are inconvenienced. Fine, whatever. Barring some terrible event (like a dog attacking another dog or person, or getting loose and getting hit by a car), which happens fewer and father between that any other repercussion, you are talking about wanting people to watch each other, and tell on each other. Personally, I'd much rather step in, over, and around a pile of dog shit, than have a bunch of uptight, psych-issue laden, immature, first-world problem promulgators getting righteous over essentially nothing when there are some serious causes that could use your energy and attention.

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Yawn, another senseless thread with an easy fix. Dog owners Stop being an asshole! keep your dog on the leash and pick up after them.

We also have blood and shell casings on our streets with visitors and residents brains spattered across our roads and streets. Let me know when all of you give a f&ck about that. Good day!

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DTJCview, I understand your point. However, when one of those problems begins to get out of hand, residents like myself decide it's time to put some balance into the equation and ask for more enforcement. If littering for out of control, I'd probably be ranting and calling for more litter enforcement.

You're deflecting responsibility and distracting from the issue I've pointed out in my original post. Your points about other violations are outside the scope of this discussion.

How about this...the next time you're pulled over by a police office, for speeding, or a right turn violation, whatever...I want you to explain to the officer "hey, there are kids playing soccer in areas of the park not designated for soccer playing."

Once that happens, login here and report back what that officer says, I'd love to hear it.

Subsequently, I don't remember the last time a kid playing soccer took a shit on the grass for other kids to step in. I also don't recall reading about any soccer playing kids biting other people in the park. Maybe it has happened somewhere, but it's definitely not a widespread problem. If it was a big problem, I'd write about that instead.

I CAN, however, point to article after article of dogs off leash biting people, or someone getting sick from errant feces.

Lastly, if the issue of kids playing soccer in parks bothers you so much, so ahead and start a post about it. I welcome local involvement on all issues. Let's see how many people will back you up on that fight.

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You missed the "except as in designated for the purpose." There are areas in the park "designated for the purpose." Regardless, they didn't want to sit on the grass either.


Nope I was pretty clear. "Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:"


Regardless of whether that particular ordinance is obeyed and/or enforced, it doesn't give anybody the right to let their dogs run off leash (and no, I don't violate this ordinance either, haven't played soccer since I was a kid).


I'm actually making a case for enforcing all the ordinances. The problem with selective enforcement, targeting a specific group, is that it alienates that group. It also doesn't help build stronger relationships between police and the community. Our police should be writing tickets for dog poop, unleashed dogs, cyclists on sidewalks, littering, ball playing in picnic areas, and all instances where City ordinances are being broken.


Please post the articles showing the prevalence of dog bite cases and sickness related to dog poop specific to JC. Your statement now implies that your argument has gone from establishing off-leash walking as your big concern to claiming dog bites and fece-related illness as a widespread problem.
I have no issue with that as long as it is justifiable. So if you say you can point to article after article proving a widespread problem in JC please do so.

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Actually, if you go to any of the parks, Morris Canal especially, on any given day, it's closer to 50% or more, but nice try.

Secondly, no one's requesting the entire JCPD drop major crime investigation to stop the dreaded dog poop problem.

It takes one cop, with a ticket book and a pen, for MAYBE an hour total to hit the three major parks in DTJC. Problem solved. I seriously doubt one diverted cop, who is already patrolling DTJC, will miss out on the big drug ring bust they're so fond of doing.

Rather than being a pretentious DB, you can actually contribute something constructive to the discussion.

I should have known with your hipsterific avatar that we were dealing with a superior intelligence here.

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Maybe 3% of dog owners walk their pups off leash. Probably about 3% don't pick up the poop. I would say 50% of the drivers in DTJC break the law, speed, roll through Stop signs etc. The ticket for off-leash dog is $56.00. You really think the cops are going to throw out some big dragnet to catch dog walkers? Good Luck Joe Friday.


Sorry, it's definitely not 3% but it's also nowhere near 50%, so nice try. If half the dog owners at morris canal park on any given day didn't pick up after their dogs your feet wouldn't even hit the grass.

The bigger crap problem in the park is from the geese. If half of your big concern is keeping crap out of the park they should be your first target.
"Geese feces usually contain the parasites cryptosporidium, giardia, coliform, and campylobacter. Cryptosporidium poses the most serious health hazard...responsible for a 1993 outbreak of disease in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, when the city's water supply became contaminated. One hundred people died and 400,000 became ill during this epidemic."

And FYI, Animal Control does patrol Morris Canal park on a regular basis. Once the weather started getting better they were showing up on an almost daily basis in the mornings.

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I'm a dog owner, and I loathe off-leash dogs. I can't tell you how many times a dog has run across a busy street to say hi to my dog. I don't have the time or energy to deal with your off-leash dog at 5am.
I'm not justifying the attitude you're getting from dog owners, but I do know where it comes from. Dog owners are out there every day--not just when it's sunny or above 70 degrees. They're out there in hurricanes, blizzards, and the wee hours of the night. It's hard to adjust when suddenly, on the first warm day, all the fair-weather people come out. (Seriously, do you people not own coats?)
So, if you're going to enforce off-leash laws, you're going to have to do it year-round, not just in summer when every year, people start complaining about it.

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Maybe 3% of dog owners walk their pups off leash. Probably about 3% don't pick up the poop. I would say 50% of the drivers in DTJC break the law, speed, roll through Stop signs etc. The ticket for off-leash dog is $56.00. You really think the cops are going to throw out some big dragnet to catch dog walkers? Good Luck Joe Friday.


I'm sorry, which study are these numbers from?

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Duh, I'd rather have first world problems than third world ones'.
I realize your let and live attitude but it is ruining quality of life issues for the majority; if every dog owner did not pick up the shit for just one day, look at the shit accumulated and i challenge you to express the same feelings.



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The revulsion I feel toward so many of the opinions on this thread, should be second only to how sick you make yourselves. I don't understand the slavish adherence to 'the law.' So many of you people are looking to shame, tattle, rat out, your own neighbors - to be fined and punished for something like a leash law. Yes, people should leash their dogs, and pick up the poop, or else the rest of us are inconvenienced. Fine, whatever. Barring some terrible event (like a dog attacking another dog or person, or getting loose and getting hit by a car), which happens fewer and father between that any other repercussion, you are talking about wanting people to watch each other, and tell on each other. Personally, I'd much rather step in, over, and around a pile of dog shit, than have a bunch of uptight, psych-issue laden, immature, first-world problem promulgators getting righteous over essentially nothing when there are some serious causes that could use your energy and attention.

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Because we can only care about one thing. Ever.

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How many people in JC have died in the last week or two from dog poop versus cycling the wrong way down the street?

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DTJCview, I understand your point. However, when one of those problems begins to get out of hand, residents like myself decide it's time to put some balance into the equation and ask for more enforcement. If littering for out of control, I'd probably be ranting and calling for more litter enforcement.

You're deflecting responsibility and distracting from the issue I've pointed out in my original post. Your points about other violations are outside the scope of this discussion.

How about this...the next time you're pulled over by a police office, for speeding, or a right turn violation, whatever...I want you to explain to the officer "hey, there are kids playing soccer in areas of the park not designated for soccer playing."

Once that happens, login here and report back what that officer says, I'd love to hear it.

Subsequently, I don't remember the last time a kid playing soccer took a shit on the grass for other kids to step in. I also don't recall reading about any soccer playing kids biting other people in the park. Maybe it has happened somewhere, but it's definitely not a widespread problem. If it was a big problem, I'd write about that instead.

I CAN, however, point to article after article of dogs off leash biting people, or someone getting sick from errant feces.

Lastly, if the issue of kids playing soccer in parks bothers you so much, so ahead and start a post about it. I welcome local involvement on all issues. Let's see how many people will back you up on that fight.

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You missed the "except as in designated for the purpose." There are areas in the park "designated for the purpose." Regardless, they didn't want to sit on the grass either.


Nope I was pretty clear. "Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:"


Regardless of whether that particular ordinance is obeyed and/or enforced, it doesn't give anybody the right to let their dogs run off leash (and no, I don't violate this ordinance either, haven't played soccer since I was a kid).


I'm actually making a case for enforcing all the ordinances. The problem with selective enforcement, targeting a specific group, is that it alienates that group. It also doesn't help build stronger relationships between police and the community. Our police should be writing tickets for dog poop, unleashed dogs, cyclists on sidewalks, littering, ball playing in picnic areas, and all instances where City ordinances are being broken.

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The revulsion I feel toward so many of the opinions on this thread, should be second only to how sick you make yourselves. I don't understand the slavish adherence to 'the law.' So many of you people are looking to shame, tattle, rat out, your own neighbors - to be fined and punished for something like a leash law. Yes, people should leash their dogs, and pick up the poop, or else the rest of us are inconvenienced. Fine, whatever. Barring some terrible event (like a dog attacking another dog or person, or getting loose and getting hit by a car), which happens fewer and father between that any other repercussion, you are talking about wanting people to watch each other, and tell on each other. Personally, I'd much rather step in, over, and around a pile of dog shit, than have a bunch of uptight, psych-issue laden, immature, first-world problem promulgators getting righteous over essentially nothing when there are some serious causes that could use your energy and attention.


Please provide your address so that I can place this sign at your property and direct dog owners and dogs to your front yard and sidewalk - Your empathy to this situation is applauded by the rest of the community.

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The revulsion I feel toward so many of the opinions on this thread, should be second only to how sick you make yourselves. I don't understand the slavish adherence to 'the law.' So many of you people are looking to shame, tattle, rat out, your own neighbors - to be fined and punished for something like a leash law. Yes, people should leash their dogs, and pick up the poop, or else the rest of us are inconvenienced. Fine, whatever. Barring some terrible event (like a dog attacking another dog or person, or getting loose and getting hit by a car), which happens fewer and father between that any other repercussion, you are talking about wanting people to watch each other, and tell on each other. Personally, I'd much rather step in, over, and around a pile of dog shit, than have a bunch of uptight, psych-issue laden, immature, first-world problem promulgators getting righteous over essentially nothing when there are some serious causes that could use your energy and attention.

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How many people in JC have died in the last week or two from dog poop versus cycling the wrong way down the street?

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DTJCview, I understand your point. However, when one of those problems begins to get out of hand, residents like myself decide it's time to put some balance into the equation and ask for more enforcement. If littering for out of control, I'd probably be ranting and calling for more litter enforcement.

You're deflecting responsibility and distracting from the issue I've pointed out in my original post. Your points about other violations are outside the scope of this discussion.

How about this...the next time you're pulled over by a police office, for speeding, or a right turn violation, whatever...I want you to explain to the officer "hey, there are kids playing soccer in areas of the park not designated for soccer playing."

Once that happens, login here and report back what that officer says, I'd love to hear it.

Subsequently, I don't remember the last time a kid playing soccer took a shit on the grass for other kids to step in. I also don't recall reading about any soccer playing kids biting other people in the park. Maybe it has happened somewhere, but it's definitely not a widespread problem. If it was a big problem, I'd write about that instead.

I CAN, however, point to article after article of dogs off leash biting people, or someone getting sick from errant feces.

Lastly, if the issue of kids playing soccer in parks bothers you so much, so ahead and start a post about it. I welcome local involvement on all issues. Let's see how many people will back you up on that fight.

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You missed the "except as in designated for the purpose." There are areas in the park "designated for the purpose." Regardless, they didn't want to sit on the grass either.


Nope I was pretty clear. "Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:"


Regardless of whether that particular ordinance is obeyed and/or enforced, it doesn't give anybody the right to let their dogs run off leash (and no, I don't violate this ordinance either, haven't played soccer since I was a kid).


I'm actually making a case for enforcing all the ordinances. The problem with selective enforcement, targeting a specific group, is that it alienates that group. It also doesn't help build stronger relationships between police and the community. Our police should be writing tickets for dog poop, unleashed dogs, cyclists on sidewalks, littering, ball playing in picnic areas, and all instances where City ordinances are being broken.

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Actually, if you go to any of the parks, Morris Canal especially, on any given day, it's closer to 50% or more, but nice try.

Secondly, no one's requesting the entire JCPD drop major crime investigation to stop the dreaded dog poop problem.

It takes one cop, with a ticket book and a pen, for MAYBE an hour total to hit the three major parks in DTJC. Problem solved. I seriously doubt one diverted cop, who is already patrolling DTJC, will miss out on the big drug ring bust they're so fond of doing.

Rather than being a pretentious DB, you can actually contribute something constructive to the discussion.

I should have known with your hipsterific avatar that we were dealing with a superior intelligence here.

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Maybe 3% of dog owners walk their pups off leash. Probably about 3% don't pick up the poop. I would say 50% of the drivers in DTJC break the law, speed, roll through Stop signs etc. The ticket for off-leash dog is $56.00. You really think the cops are going to throw out some big dragnet to catch dog walkers? Good Luck Joe Friday.

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IMHO some quality of life issues might be solved by neighborhood groups. If your neighborhood association is not doing enough or is not addressing your concerns, well then form a new one.

In the words of Alfred E. Neuman (I think):

"Ask not what your neighborhood association can do for you; ask what you can do for your neighborhood association."


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Maybe 3% of dog owners walk their pups off leash. Probably about 3% don't pick up the poop. I would say 50% of the drivers in DTJC break the law, speed, roll through Stop signs etc. The ticket for off-leash dog is $56.00. You really think the cops are going to throw out some big dragnet to catch dog walkers? Good Luck Joe Friday.

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The City of JC under Fulop has a new feature on their website that is under the Mayor's Action Bureau (MAB) I contacted them about my dog off-leash incident I got a pretty quick reply.

It's on the main page of this:

http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/

Obviously, the city has certain higher priorities and this is a difficult ordinance to enforce and catch, but the initative appears to cover non-urgent quality of life issues such as this. If enough people have the same concern, perhaps the city will be encouraged to do something about it.

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Yes, I posted contact information for JC Animal control:

JC Animal Control: 201-547-4888 (http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/hhs.aspx?id=1434)

Joseph Frank is the person in charge and is very nice indeed.

For those who don't know me well, you'll soon find out just how persistent I am. Change takes time, but change will happen.

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Hamilton Park, this morning.

I have lived in DTJC for 25 years and this is the worst thing I have ever seen. Oh wait, I saw a guy with his brains blown out on 8th and McWilliams about 20 years ago. That was worse.

We are definitely facing a first world problem ... But, still naming and shaming is a way to go ...

BTW, I recall last summer the animal control officer came to one of the HPNA meetings to talk about the off-leash dog (owner - attitude - problem) ... He seemed to be a nice guy and pretty professional about "collaring" the entitled dog owners that let Fido run around unleashed ...

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DTJCview, I understand your point. However, when one of those problems begins to get out of hand, residents like myself decide it's time to put some balance into the equation and ask for more enforcement. If littering for out of control, I'd probably be ranting and calling for more litter enforcement.

You're deflecting responsibility and distracting from the issue I've pointed out in my original post. Your points about other violations are outside the scope of this discussion.

How about this...the next time you're pulled over by a police office, for speeding, or a right turn violation, whatever...I want you to explain to the officer "hey, there are kids playing soccer in areas of the park not designated for soccer playing."

Once that happens, login here and report back what that officer says, I'd love to hear it.

Subsequently, I don't remember the last time a kid playing soccer took a shit on the grass for other kids to step in. I also don't recall reading about any soccer playing kids biting other people in the park. Maybe it has happened somewhere, but it's definitely not a widespread problem. If it was a big problem, I'd write about that instead.

I CAN, however, point to article after article of dogs off leash biting people, or someone getting sick from errant feces.

Lastly, if the issue of kids playing soccer in parks bothers you so much, so ahead and start a post about it. I welcome local involvement on all issues. Let's see how many people will back you up on that fight.

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Nope I was pretty clear. "Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:"


Regardless of whether that particular ordinance is obeyed and/or enforced, it doesn't give anybody the right to let their dogs run off leash (and no, I don't violate this ordinance either, haven't played soccer since I was a kid).


I'm actually making a case for enforcing all the ordinances. The problem with selective enforcement, targeting a specific group, is that it alienates that group. It also doesn't help build stronger relationships between police and the community. Our police should be writing tickets for dog poop, unleashed dogs, cyclists on sidewalks, littering, ball playing in picnic areas, and all instances where City ordinances are being broken.

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I'm for calling cops on this one too. Is this against the law? If it isn't, it should be. Annoying as hell.

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Hamilton Park, this morning.

I have lived in DTJC for 25 years and this is the worst thing I have ever seen. Oh wait, I saw a guy with his brains blown out on 8th and McWilliams about 20 years ago. That was worse.

We are definitely facing a first world problem ... But, still naming and shaming is a way to go ...

BTW, I recall last summer the animal control officer came to one of the HPNA meetings to talk about the off-leash dog (owner - attitude - problem) ... He seemed to be a nice guy and pretty professional about "collaring" the entitled dog owners that let Fido run around unleashed ...

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Nope I was pretty clear. "Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:"


Regardless of whether that particular ordinance is obeyed and/or enforced, it doesn't give anybody the right to let their dogs run off leash (and no, I don't violate this ordinance either, haven't played soccer since I was a kid).


I'm actually making a case for enforcing all the ordinances. The problem with selective enforcement, targeting a specific group, is that it alienates that group. It also doesn't help build stronger relationships between police and the community. Our police should be writing tickets for dog poop, unleashed dogs, cyclists on sidewalks, littering, ball playing in picnic areas, and all instances where City ordinances are being broken.

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Nope I was pretty clear. "Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:"


Regardless of whether that particular ordinance is obeyed and/or enforced, it doesn't give anybody the right to let their dogs run off leash (and no, I don't violate this ordinance either, haven't played soccer since I was a kid).

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Cool. Wouldn't want your kids to grow up, disrespecting the law, and owning dogs that poop in parks :)

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I was pretty clear. There are areas designated for the purpose.

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Hamilton Park, this morning.
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I have lived in DTJC for 25 years and this is the worst thing I have ever seen. Oh wait, I saw a guy with his brains blown out on 8th and McWilliams about 20 years ago. That was worse.

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