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Asif wrote:
I would luv to see TJs in Bayonne. They could get a great deal on price/rent/city incentives......and it would serve as a magnet for people from JC and surrounding towns.
I keep hearing that they want a well heeled population....but with all that development(and lots of it in Bayonne too) why not get in early???

Wouldn't work out. You can't even get the Downtown folks to walk up Newark Ave. past Dickinson H.S. to Moloney's Butcher even when they want a butcher.

Asif wrote:
I would luv to see TJs in Bayonne. They could get a great deal on price/rent/city incentives......and it would serve as a magnet for people from JC and surrounding towns.
I keep hearing that they want a well heeled population....but with all that development(and lots of it in Bayonne too) why not get in early???

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craigslistdiva wrote:
Agreed. But that doesn't mean it's not in the works!

I doubt it's even in the works, if 2 years later it's not even on the 'coming soon' list' :

http://www.traderjoes.com/stores/coming-soon.asp

CdeCoincy wrote:
I wonder if Trader Joe's and other retail businesses are waiting for a Bayfront/440 Light Rail stop to open?

craigslistdiva wrote:
Agreed. But that doesn't mean it's not in the works!

Dahood wrote:
Now that I have discovered wegmans in Woodbridge, I feel TJs is overrated.

Frank_M wrote:
I also tend not to mock personal religious beliefs, but I am largely insensitive toward modern demands for animal products tailored for the pious to conveniently avoid sacrifice.

Bobblehead wrote:

I am not a big fan of religions in general, but I tend not to mock or deride their adherents' personal practices. I can easily see how Asif sees your comment as just that.

brewster wrote:

I think that chart will lead to the only possibly ethical food left being yeast paste. Plants are highly evolved beings and have a right to live too, without being cut down and eaten or having their fetuses & children eaten.

Frank_M wrote:

In the case religious beliefs, by definition yes, of course it?s irrational behavior. I wouldn?t pass judgment on irrationality itself though?it is an inseparable and valuable component of human behavior?but its manifestation can sometimes be quite amusing when observed in the context of a different world view. I do not adhere to religious laws of any kind, which provides me with a different world view, and I wouldn?t be the first person to notice actions in the name of religion can be rather inconsistent if not quizzical at times. Whether the behavior is right or wrong isn?t the argument I?m making, I?m just taking the opportunity to throw sarcasm around.

Now in the case of those who protest rennet for ?ethical reasons? but consume cheese, that?s just a profoundly silly gesture.

Frank_M wrote:
Unless you abstain from dairy products altogether, the source of cheese-making enzymes should only be important if you care more about precious arbitrary values than the lives of animals. It?s a wildly disproportionate concern. In this case, the unpleasant reality of milk production is the five-hundred pound gorilla in the room, not a milliliter of rennet.

Bobblehead wrote:
So, basically, people who don't want to eat rennet out of some religious dietary law are irrational, and people who don't want to eat it out of an ethical concern are hypocritical, because the bigger and more serious issue is the dairy industry at large.

Someone should do a flow chart.

Bobblehead wrote:
So, basically, people who don't want to eat rennet out of some religious dietary law are irrational, and people who don't want to eat it out of an ethical concern are hypocritical, because the bigger and more serious issue is the dairy industry at large.

Someone should do a flow chart.

brewster wrote:

You seem to be unable to accept that some people care for the rennet issue on any other grounds than your own guilt about animal welfare. Get over it. If you're on a jihad against irrational beliefs, good luck with that. Surely there's plenty of low hanging fruit, how about Mitt's magic underwear?

Bobblehead wrote:
But I am still fuzzy on what the dispute here is. Is Frank upset because Asif's desire to avoid rennet isn't valid enough for him? Does he want Asif to get on the bigger bandwagon for animal rights by boycotting the entire dairy industry? Or is he just pooh-poohing his personal decision to avoid rennet as irrational, and therefore worthy of derision?

Frank_M wrote:
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Bobblehead wrote:
So, wait--is this a religious vs. animal rights issue here? Or are we witnessing a battle between two different level of concerns for animals--one boycotting the products of slaughter and one arguing for a concern for the total life experience of dairy animals?

A search for the term "rennet boycott" pops this thread first in teh Goggle. Good work!

Neither, as far as I?m concerned. My criticism is strictly over a policy that is framed by irrational belief and incomplete views. Otherwise, I am entirely open to criticism for my own selfish consumption of animal flesh and animal products.

Bobblehead wrote:
So, wait--is this a religious vs. animal rights issue here? Or are we witnessing a battle between two different level of concerns for animals--one boycotting the products of slaughter and one arguing for a concern for the total life experience of dairy animals?

A search for the term "rennet boycott" pops this thread first in teh Goggle. Good work!

Asif wrote:
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Frank Wrote: Unless you can demonstrate why it?s not an absurdly disproportionate concern, I cannot help but roll my eyes at a rennet boycott.

Frank- you can roll your eyes until they become crossed for all I care. I owe you no explanation. I am obliged to you no satisfaction. You may blindly assume, quiet stupidly, my rational for being selective concerning my personal food choices. I find this wrong. Had you just asked in a non-assuming manner, I would have explained gladly. Instead you came across as a PR*Ck.

Let me make this clear, you do not know me. People in general are not static beings. We are fluid in our identities according to the influences of a host of variables. These can include time, place, people, culture, belief, logic, and technology.

My reasoning for my CHOICE is nuanced....and does not fit into your convenient, made up assumption of me. Someone you just don't know on any meaningful, personal level.

For the rest of us unassuming folks. I went to the local supermarket. And the Stouffers Mac and Cheese did not label the type of enzyme contained in it. If i am tempted to consume massive, amounts of junk, comfort food....it's Kraft for the win.

Frank Wrote: Unless you can demonstrate why it?s not an absurdly disproportionate concern, I cannot help but roll my eyes at a rennet boycott.