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Do they seriously think then can sell 925 units?!?!?!?!?!


Is there anything indicating otherwise?


Actually a few reasons.

The New Grove apartments went from condos to rentals when they couldn't sell them.

The new units on Newark and First switched to rental because no one in their right mind would buy a unit there.

Plus its built on a superfund site.

If you were rich why in the hell would you live in Jersey City. In everyone's mind (other than the people that live here) its a dump. Not to mention people who work in NYC would rather have their balls cut off than have to actually move to JC.


you know nothing about how hot the condo market in dtjc is right now. In buildings like crystal point, 77 hudson, and even smaller luxury condo buildings like Gulls Cove, condos are selling at almost the prices before the crash.

But You've probably never visited any of those luxury condos. To you, any new construction is "luxury", You live a sad life.


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This excessiveness of overpriced, luxury crap is out of hand. You think the Grove PATH is too crowded now?? Traffic not bad enough for ya, too much speeding? Wait til more entitled, rich people invade. (note: not all rich people behave like entitled jerks, but a lot of them around Grove St. are do).

It really makes me sad how Downtown has now been given away to developers to such an extreme.


wow, can you get anymore prejudice? Okay, let me show you by arguing the other side.

Why the hell is Greenville filled with so much poor ghetto gang bangers? I mean, can't they find a job and a sense of work ethic? (Note: not all poor people are gangbangers, just a ALOT of them live in greenville)

Oneskirt, I hope you never visit dtjc. Dtjc is the ONLY reason why jersey city is on anyone's radar. Those "rich entitled people" you speak of is why jc is moving forward. And finally, why are you just so jealous? It's okay that you earn 30k working 80+ hours a week. Walk by grove and I'll give ya a dime.

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This excessiveness of overpriced, luxury crap is out of hand. You think the Grove PATH is too crowded now?? Traffic not bad enough for ya, too much speeding? Wait til more entitled, rich people invade. (note: not all rich people behave like entitled jerks, but a lot of them around Grove St. are do).

It really makes me sad how Downtown has now been given away to developers to such an extreme.

Boy their insurance rates be high. They may risk losing everything they worked for.

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if you make $500k per year, you can't buy a whole brownstone in Manhattan. You can here. That's atttractive to a lot of people.


The thing is if you ARE making half a mil a year and you live in Jersey City everyone you know is laughing at you.

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Well, I don't think they'll have a problem selling them, honestly.

And I'm not sure what your definition of rich is (people tend to have wildly varying definitions of wealth), but there are a lot of people who are affluent by most definitions that choose to make JC their home. Why would they choose to live here? Because it's a pretty nice place (I'm sorry you don't feel that way JaeTea) that offers an amazing commute.

And no matter what your income is, your dollar goes further here than in Manhattan; that's why it's attractive. Guess what - if you make $500k per year, you can't buy a whole brownstone in Manhattan. You can here. That's atttractive to a lot of people.

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Do they seriously think then can sell 925 units?!?!?!?!?!


Is there anything indicating otherwise?


Actually a few reasons.

The New Grove apartments went from condos to rentals when they couldn't sell them.

The new units on Newark and First switched to rental because no one in their right mind would buy a unit there.

Plus its built on a superfund site.

If you were rich why in the hell would you live in Jersey City. In everyone's mind (other than the people that live here) its a dump. Not to mention people who work in NYC would rather have their balls cut off than have to actually move to JC.

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This excessiveness of overpriced, luxury crap is out of hand. You think the Grove PATH is too crowded now?? Traffic not bad enough for ya, too much speeding? Wait til more entitled, rich people invade. (note: not all rich people behave like entitled jerks, but a lot of them around Grove St. are do).

It really makes me sad how Downtown has now been given away to developers to such an extreme.

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Do they seriously think then can sell 925 units?!?!?!?!?!


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Do they seriously think then can sell 925 units?!?!?!?!?!

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To reflect the site's history, I think the project should be renamed The Afikomen.

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Towers 2 & 3 will be condominiums - this is good news.

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Apparently, Toll Bros plans to start work on Provost Square soon.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/04/1 ... nounce-development-of-lu/

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I heard things will start near end of 2012, beginning of 2013.

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I just hope they build something nice. It would be especially nice if they built something truly creative, thought provoking, to anchor the "arts" district

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It becomes less of a travesty - perhaps only a travestyette -if you cease thinking of it as the Powerhouse Arts District (PAD) but as the Area Ripe for Inappropriate Development - the ARID.

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I haven't seen any progress on the Toll Brothers development on Marin. I don' t understand this.


* Very low rental vacancy rate in Hudson County
* Rents in NYC continue to rise.
* Site is about a block from an entrance to the Grove St. Path
* Recent rental projects -- the Monaco and 225 Grand appear to have been leased up quickly.
* Toll Brothers, a national firm, would seem to have more access to capital than most developers.


So I don't understand. What's taking them so long to get started?

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Any idea if these new towers will be just rental or for sale or both?


Both.
Rentals built first and condos later.

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Wondering how many years expected to get the towers done...

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Toll Brothers I believe is exclusive a condo developer.

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Any idea if these new towers will be just rental or for sale or both?

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These buildings seem a lot pointier than any other buildings in the area. Won't this ruin the skyline?

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This link shows an extra image - an architectural drawing of the entire project from the Morgan Street view, Marin>Warren.

http://www.slcearch.com/planning/provost-square/#

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that would be them stephen

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Yes, it will happen.

It will be a 2nd office tower for Goldman Sachs - the foundation is there.

The plan has always been to build it when Goldman Sachs is hiring employees in the New York region. Unfortunately, the last 4 or 5 years this hasn't happened - total employment is down. There are 5,395 full-time employees at 30 Hudson.

Soon would be great, but construction of 50 Hudson depends on the economy and growth at the firm.

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Goldman Sachs: the second office tower - 50 Hudson Street - 30-story, 918,956 square feet.

The 42-story 30 Hudson Street is the tallest building in New Jersey at 781 feet.


Sammy, is this building (50 Hudson) still happening? Will it definitely be an office tower, and is it being built soon?

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Didn't realize that - that's good to hear. And hopefully they upgraded the design a little so that we don't get what looks like a slightly-upgraded 1970's-style public housing project as displayed on the SLCE website.

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SammytheT: At the planning board meetings back in 2007, Toll Bros stated that they would preserve the facade of the A&P warehouse on the Provost Street side...I guess that wasn't part of the final plan though.

In any case, I hope the tower design has changed. The design shown on the SLCE website is about unimaginative as a design can get. Why don't they just stack a bunch of shipping containers and paint the whole thing brown if they're just making a big rectangular building?


Why would you say the facade on Provost St (Bay St as well) isn't being preserved?
They are only tearing down the two-story cinderblock portion of the property.

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