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When they expand the platforms at Grove Street for longer trains there will be elevators installed.

...of course, expanding the station has been a long term plan for a number of years now.

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011 ... dge_rules_grove_stre.html

What ever happened with this ruling.... did the PA appeal? Haven't heard a peep about this in the news... can't imagine they will be able to get it overturned. When would be the estimate that they actually start working on an ADA accessible entrance for Grove Street?

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Coming home tonight from 33rd St was crazy.... like Tokyo Metro Crazy!


Weird that you mention that... I rode home last night from 33rd at 8pm and was completely crushed. I've never, ever, seen it so insanely full at that hour and was asking myself what was up. There didn't seem to be anything out of the ordinary like a delay that led to a buildup of commuters.

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I feel that it's getting more crowded every week. It's always been crowded and I definitely noticed an uptick about 1-2 years ago but again most recently in the past 6 months it's gotten unbearable. Coming home tonight from 33rd St was crazy.... like Tokyo Metro Crazy!

I'm not sure we are going to be make it ahead of the signal upgrades.

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For next train information, I use
http://nextpath.info

Quick, easy and it works perfectly from a mobile device.

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send a text to 266266 with the origin and destination (ie "grove to 33") and you get a reply with the next three trains.

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Hey, does anybody know if there is an app or any other tool that determines when the next PATH train is leaving a station?



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Hey, does anybody know if there is an app or any other tool that determines when the next PATH train is leaving a station?

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The new station should have a whole new set of stairs and escalators and connect to a massive underground corridor linking Battery Park to the Fulton Transit center.


By new station are you just referring to a different way to get out of the current station? I'm assuming that the exit path will follow the same route as when the WTC station reopened where everyone walked east. You will then be able to connect to the 1 and N, R-Cortland street station, and walk in a passageway under Dey street to connect to the Fulton Street Transit Center. Is this correct?


The glass "stegosaurus" dome should shift the main entrance south and east to where the main staircase was in 2005-2007, leading out onto Church.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/wtc-site-plan.html

This space should be a lot more pedestrian friendly than the thin corridor connecting W. Broadway and Church now. Presumably there will be other exits and entrances elsewhere. The retail corridor should connect from around the Winter Garden through the World Trade Center site as far as the Fult Street Transit hub.
http://www.panynj.gov/wtcprogress/wtc-retail.html

When everything is completed, the PATH should connect with Chambers-Park Place on the 1,2,3,A,C,E and Fulton Street 4,5,J,M,Z and Courtland N,R.

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The new station should have a whole new set of stairs and escalators and connect to a massive underground corridor linking Battery Park to the Fulton Transit center.


By new station are you just referring to a different way to get out of the current station? I'm assuming that the exit path will follow the same route as when the WTC station reopened where everyone walked east. You will then be able to connect to the 1 and N, R-Cortland street station, and walk in a passageway under Dey street to connect to the Fulton Street Transit Center. Is this correct?

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Yeah the whole exiting process from the WTC station is painful. It takes about 5 minutes to get from the train to Church Street. Compare that to the 33rd Street terminal, which takes about 1-2 minutes. Doesn't 33rd Street handle the same volume that WTC does? Why couldn't the WTC station be modeled after the 33rd?

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Is there any plan to add more staircases to the WTC platforms to alleviate exit crowds?


The new station should have a whole new set of stairs and escalators and connect to a massive underground corridor linking Battery Park to the Fulton Transit center.

There had been some discussion about not replacing some of the stairs when costs were rising a few years ago, but then it was realized the folly of that plan. Of course now that the Sandwiches and Cuomo are crying about costs, who knows.

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Is there any plan to add more staircases to the WTC platforms to alleviate exit crowds?

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"Samson, along with Rechler, and Commissioners William Schuber and Jeffrey Lynford, formed the four-member committee that conducted the review, which the governors ordered after an audit by New York Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli found the agency had paid $85.7 million in overtime in 2010 to 5,360 of its employees of its 6,977 employees.

Auditors found that the total cost of compensation and benefits for average active Port Authority employees exceeds $143,000. They said 93 percent of authority employees make no contribution to health care, compared with 100 percent of New York and New Jersey employees who do."

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I have been taking the WTC line for more than year now. I have rarely seen any delays. This is the best path line in JC!!!

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When is the signal system going to be upgraded? Is it currently being done?

For the past few months I have been taking the WTC line, which used to consistently be a breeze (5 minutes), but nowadays, it sometimes crawls. Today, for example, was stop and go, and the ride took 15 minutes! It's about a mile and a half. 15 minutes is a real embarrassment.


"The PATH rail system will receive a nearly $400 million signal-system upgrade, increasing potential rail capacity on the line 20 percent by 2014, officials said today." (Jersey Journal Oct 17, 2007)

"The signal project, eventually projected to cost $580 million and be completed in 2017, is part of a $3.3 billion plan to modernize the entire PATH system over the next 10 years." October 23, 2009, Star Ledger


Clearly the answer is that the signal upgrades will be completed 7-8 years from now. Ask again in a few years and they'll tell you the same thing.

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Well that's kind of disappointing.

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When is the signal system going to be upgraded? Is it currently being done?

For the past few months I have been taking the WTC line, which used to consistently be a breeze (5 minutes), but nowadays, it sometimes crawls. Today, for example, was stop and go, and the ride took 15 minutes! It's about a mile and a half. 15 minutes is a real embarrassment.


"The PATH rail system will receive a nearly $400 million signal-system upgrade, increasing potential rail capacity on the line 20 percent by 2014, officials said today." (Jersey Journal Oct 17, 2007)

"The signal project, eventually projected to cost $580 million and be completed in 2017, is part of a $3.3 billion plan to modernize the entire PATH system over the next 10 years." October 23, 2009, Star Ledger

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When is the signal system going to be upgraded? Is it currently being done?

For the past few months I have been taking the WTC line, which used to consistently be a breeze (5 minutes), but nowadays, it sometimes crawls. Today, for example, was stop and go, and the ride took 15 minutes! It's about a mile and a half. 15 minutes is a real embarrassment.

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A lot of the problems have to do with the emphasis on meeting construction schedules at the World Trade Center site rather than focusing on providing services. There is no national photo op for Christie and Cuomo when the PATH upgrades its signal system or expands the platforms. But at least once a year they both get to show up alongside the President on all the network television stations and many of the cable stations and say, "oh hey, look what we built!"

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on Thursday the 26th, 33rd to JSQ train at about 8:30 PM packed to the gills, Friday same train about 4:30 PM packed. This is the first car in the train which should the the least crowded.

I ride the path every day (for 10 years) and it seems to be reaching a breaking point.

The Hoboken trains are 50% full.

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8,000 units in Harrison? Just another reason to move into NYC.

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The Toll Brothers, Liberty Harbor, 70/90 Columbus--- so what, all these people are getting on at the same station from the same platform at Grove Street.

What should be worrying people is the 8,000 units planned for Harrison since all these people will already be on the train.

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Japanese people pushers would be awesome. That'll teach you fools to stand right in front of the door. I fantasize about clotheslining a few people during my rush hour commute. The Toll Bros. project is a behemoth (40 not 30 stories on the Southwest tower alone and there are three towers). This will make a logistical nightmare for the PATH in the morning. I read somewhere that it will hold the largest amount of retail space as well for any proposed project in the area. I believe it's 40,000 square feet of retail at the base of all three combined towers.

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Wait until they build the Toll Bros. building going up on Marin & Bay Street. 1300 hundred units.

Yea ! With more than one person per apartment the population could more than double. Especially with roomies it will be worse than a shore house rental. Hey the Japs just push the passengers in their trains like sardines with a psudeo shoehorn.

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Wait until they build the Toll Bros. building going up on Marin & Bay Street. 1300 hundred units.

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For those of you complaining about the escalators off, it was 100% necessary because of a street-level (construction truck?) backup. In that case, it's not a PATH issue. It's a construciton-at-rushhour issue.



The PATH is operated by the Port Authority. The construction site at the World Trade Center is operated by the Port Authority. So no, the PATH shouldn't be held accountable, but the Port Authority certainly should be.

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The situation at WTC with the escalators sucked, but I'm so happy that it didn't turn ugly with people pushing, shoving or stampeding trying to get out. Everyone was pretty civil and calm throughout.

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edit: Same exact experience as switchboardgirl, just reiterating.


I got through Vesey just before that shit happened.

Heavy congestion at the PATH exit caused a massive backup into the station. If they had kept the escalators running (like the people no more than 20 seconds behind me experienced) than commuters would have continued moving up to street level with absolutely no place for those people to go.

For those of you complaining about the escalators off, it was 100% necessary because of a street-level (construction truck?) backup. In that case, it's not a PATH issue. It's a construciton-at-rushhour issue.

I am very tolerant of crowds but that situation of coming up the escalator with nowhere to go almost caused me to have a panic attack; others around me were thinking out loud the same exact thing.

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