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Re: HUGE GAS LINE COMING? Companies look to run natural gas pipeline through Jersey City
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Looks like all of downtown is up for grabs... Embankment gas line anyone?

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Anyone have a good map of this pipeline? It would come from Bayonne to Route 440 into Jersey City.

The pipeline would then continue along 440 in Jersey City to the New Jersey Turnpike and Route 78. It would follow Caven Point Road then pick up 78 again. The pipeline would cut into Jersey City around 18th Street and go out the Long Slip Canal behind the A&P and Target in Newport to cross the Hudson River to Manhattan.

Will this be placed right under the Turnpike on state land?

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I am able to see images from possible futures... this is what I saw last night in a future with Spectra...

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this gas line must not go in. "Spectra" is no more trustworthy than BP in protecting our city.

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Tuesday, June 22, 6-8PM Spectra Energy Open House School #9 Gym, 222 Mercer St.
Another Open House on Proposed Natural Gas Pipeline Scheduled for Tuesday Spectra Energy has scheduled another open house meeting about its proposed natural gas pipeline extension through Jersey City. The path of the 15.5-mile extension, which is traced in black in the map above, would come up from Staten Island into Bayonne then into Jersey City, where it would follow the route of the Turnpike extension, eventually crossing the Hudson River into New York. It is expected to bring up to 800 million cubic feet of natural gas per day to Con Edison customers in Manhattan. The plan is opposed by Mayor Jerramiah Healy, several City Council members(Councilman Fulop and others) and other elected officials, as well as some local residents. Spectra officials say it is still in its preliminary stage, but the company hopes to be serving more natural gas to Manhattanites, via the extension, by the fall of 2013. At Tuesday?s open house, Spectra officials will be on hand to answer questions on the proposed pipeline, the new meter station it wants to build near the former site of the Van Leer Chocolate Factory in Jersey City, land acquisition, the environmental impact or anything else. (There is also a Monday meeting in Bayonne.) THE DETAILS Spectra Energy Open House; Tuesday, June 22 from 6 to 8 pm; School #9 Gym, 222 Mercer St. ======================================== Here's some background info on Spectra below as a comment at Jersey City Independent: Quote:
1. MikeB on June 17th, 2010 at 4:26 pm: Residents have a right to be concerned about Spectra Energy?s proposed pipeline because Spectra Energy has a track record that looks like a police rap sheet: *Unlawful Conduct ? The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection has issued two Notices of Violation for ?unlawful conduct? related to the company?s 12-billion-cubic feet underground natural gas storage reservoir in Bedford County, PA. *Fiery Inferno ? Spectra Energy?s underground gas storage reservoir outside of Houston (Moss Bluff) suffered catastrophic failure in 2004 with two explosions, 6 days of fire with flames as high as 1,000 feet and two evacuations. The company does not want to talk about it. The project manager at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission told me they were not aware of this when they approved Spectra Energy?s proposal for the storage reservoir in Bedford County. *PCB Contamination ? Spectra Energy acknowledges in its Form 10-K (filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Feb. 27, 2009) that, ?some of our pipeline systems are contaminated with [toxic] PCBs.? The EPA has concluded that PCBs cause cancer in animals and are a probable human carcinogen. *Top Civil Penalty Ranking ? Spectra Energy?s Texas Eastern pipeline division is tied for #7 on the EPA?s list of the 21 ?Top Civil Penalty Cases of All Time,? the National Enforcement Trends (NETs) document which is on the EPA website. The $15 million penalty was for massive PCB contamination along the company?s 9,000-mile pipeline. I am among a group of property owners in Bedford County, PA, who fought Spectra Energy?s threat of eminent domain for 2 years. By the way, don?t relax because Spectra Energy says the project is still in its preliminary stage. In our case, the project manager for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission told property owners that the Bedford County project ? while it was still in the proposal stage ? ?is a done deal.? Now that Spectra Energy is our ?neighbor,? there have been ongoing operational problems at this facility from the beginning. This includes emergency shutdowns which result in uncontrolled release of gas (toxic volatile organic compounds) and sometimes oily contaminate into the air (and on nearby properties). Spectra Energy keeps repeating that such shutdowns/blowdowns are not uncommon. But the company refuses to furnish the stats. After months of prodding, Spectra Energy finally admitted, ?Yes, we do track all of our compressor units? performance as part of our system reliability monitoring efforts, but this is not data that we report externally. In the meantime, based on unofficial record keeping by nearby landowners, there have been 25 shutdowns and/or blowdowns of the Steckman Ridge compressor station between August 23, 2009 (the first, big emergency shutdown) and the end of April 2010. And residents are still counting. Why must neighbors assemble information on the ongoing performance problems at this facility? Why doesn?t Spectra Energy disclose the information? Learn from our experience in order to protect your property rights, your health and your safety. Ask tough questions of the Spectra Energy representative, based on the information here. Ask how many explosive failures the company has experienced on its pipelines and underground storage reservoirs. Ask about PCBs. Ask the representative from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission the likelihood of the project being approved. Ask about the use of eminent domain if property owners decline to ?sign up.? From our battle, a property rights blog emerged that tracks Spectra Energy and other companies involved in shale gas drilling or support functions. (By the way, the gas-rich Marcellus shale in New York and Pennsylvania is why this pipeline is being proposed.) Most posts are fully sourced with primary sources that include links or pdf files to the EPA, Pennsylvania DEP, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, court documents and filings from the gas companies. So anyone can check our source of information. As an example, here is a link to such a post: http://www.spectraenergywatch.com/blog/?p=616 Most of the material is found at the bottom of the post in the section titled, ?Links & Resources.? Happy to answer questions, if I can, at this link: Spectra Energy

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Msg received at Jersey City Gas Pipelines:

Hi all,



I just learned about this group and signed up to learn about what is happening regarding these proposed pipelines in your area.

The Pipeline Safety Trust is the only national non-profit group that focuses on pipeline safety. You can learn more about us and pipeline safety issues at our website at: http://www.pstrust.org A direct link to the pages that tell the story about the tragedy that led to our creation can be found at: http://pstrust.org/whatcomcreek/index.htm

Every four years the U.S. Congress reviews and reauthorizes the federal pipeline safety program which includes all of the regulations regarding these types of natural gas transmission pipelines. Next Thursday I will be testifying to a Subcommittee of the Senate chaired by your own Senator Lautenberg. You can find our recent testimony to a subcommittee of the U.S. House on our homepage under "Recent Publications."

We also operate a national listserv similar to this one that includes about 400 people across the country. If you are interested in keeping up with the latest pipeline safety issues nationally, or inquiring about pipeline safety issue from the wealth of experience on that group, you can sign up for that list at:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/safepipelines/

Hope some of this may help.

If folks have any specific questions that we may be able to help with let me know. As I mention
I am testifying to the Senate next Thursday, and will be in Iowa on pipeline issues before that and then to Houston after DC, so the next two weeks are rather crazy.

Thanks for contacting me

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At least 3 dead, 6 injured in Texas natural gas explosion


By William Branigin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 7, 2010; 5:30 PM


A natural gas pipeline exploded Monday about 50 miles southwest of Dallas, killing at least three people and injuring at least six, local officials and news media reported.

The blast occurred about 2:40 p.m. Central time when workers apparently struck the underground gas pipeline while digging near Cleburne in Johnson County, Tex., Cleburne Fire Chief Clint Ishmael told CNN.

"An unknown number of people are still unaccounted for," he said. "We're trying to locate those people."

The local television station WFAA quoted the Cleburne city manager as saying three people were killed and 10 were missing.

Ishmael said firefighters were trying to get the supply of gas turned off as a massive fire continued to burn more than two hours after the explosion. He said that was the only hope of putting out the fire.

The blast unleashed huge orange flames and a cloud of smoke, witnesses said. Television news footage showed a couple of vehicles burning in the vicinity.

Laura Harlin, who lives about a mile from the scene, told CNN she heard a rumbling noise that sounded like a jet engine when the explosion occurred. She said her house shook and the rumbling lasted for about 10 minutes.

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my guess is that map is a bit outdated, i just read this in a jersey journal article, it's a bit more detailed & concerning:

Spectra's Project Manager Ed Gonzalez said the route could change, but as proposed, it would extend from Staten Island under the Kill Van Kull through Bayonne along First Street, up Lexington Avenue to Second Street and continuing to the Fifth Street Connector to Route 440, in some places passing through industrial parks alongside the roadway, before reaching Jersey City.

The pipeline would continue along 440 in Jersey City to the New Jersey Turnpike and Route 78. It would follow Caven Point Road then pick up 78 again. The pipeline would cut into Jersey City around 18th Street and go out Long Slip behind the A&P and Target in Newport to cross the Hudson River to Manhattan.

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Any potential for a financial windfall for JC if this happens?


None. Individual property owners will receive nominal compensation, likely via eminent domain taking. The city receives nothing but risk. No gas. No money.

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Stepping back to the original post that shows the map, click on it to magnify it, the new gasline link does not pass through any part of Jersey City, much less up along the waterfront?

It looks like it runs West to East through North Bergen and Weehawken or Edgewater (or Hoboken.)

Is that map wrong?

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Any potential for a financial windfall for JC if this happens?

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The info below comes from a friend:

Quote:
From Spectra's communication with FERC, there is another open house scheduled for Jersey City which (according to FERC's policy) should be a much more detailed presentation than the previous open houses they held.

June 22, 2010
6:00 ? 8:00 p.m.
Public School Number 9 Gym
222 Mercer Street
Jersey City, NJ 07302

Other dates and locations:

STATEN ISLAND
June 14, 2010
6:00 ? 8:00 p.m.
Hilton Garden Inn
Britons Oak Room
1100 South Avenue
Staten Island, NY 10314

MANHATTAN
June 15, 2010
6:00 ? 8:00 p.m.
Westbeth Artists Housing
Community Room
55 Bethune Street
New York, NY 10014

LINDEN
June 16, 2010
6:00 ? 8:00 p.m.
Tremley Recreation Center -- 7th Ward Recreation Center
Tremley Point Road and Main Street
Linden, NJ 07036

BAYONNE
June 21, 2010
6:00 ? 8:00 p.m.
CWV Post 1612
18 West 23rd Street
Bayonne, NJ 07002


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A message from Spectra, regarding the pipeline and related approval process, including a link to updated maps:

On April 23, 2010, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) granted our request to initiate FERC's Pre-Filing Process and assigned Docket No. PF10-17-000 to the Project.

The proceeding may be followed through FERC's website, http://www.ferc.gov/, which maintains all information submitted and issued for the Project throughout as well as information and a schedule of significant activities for the Pre-Filing Process. To review and/or receive information filed on the Project, go to the eLibrary link on FERC's home page, click on "General Search" and enter PF10-17 as the "Docket Number".

We anticipate filing the formal FERC application and other federal and state applications in late 2010.

Also, for your convenience, I'm attaching the link to Spectra Energy's Sustainability Report:

http://www.spectraenergy.com/our_resp ... 09-Sustainability-Report/

The system seems to be down right now, but I was on it throughout the past week and the link on the FERC site provides updated maps and communication between Spectra and FERC. There will be another public meeting, this one with a more specific agenda than the last ones - it will be on either June 21 or 22 (I can't remember and as I said, the FERC system is down at the moment.)

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I have NOT seen a decent map of WHERE they are planning on routing this nightmare.

All the ones I have seen show the approach up through the Meadowlands and then around the Rte 7 railroad bridge and then vaguely through Weehawken or Hoboken.

Now I read from the post above that it will pass up the Jersey City Waterfront near the PATH train.

Does anyone have a map link showing proximity to a waterfront PATH station? Grove, Exchange Place, Newport, Hoboken????????

I guess the only way to stop it is to offer bigger bribes than the pipeline company. This IS North Jersey after all.

I guess the governor could intervene? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Imagine Christie stopping a large corporation from despoiling Hudson County (Twenty five more HA's.) He'd probably authorize building the pipeline under City Hall and then, with Schuindler's input, route it under several public schools that could be replaced with Catholic and Charter schools after the expected blasts..

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Christine Sloan

Proposed Pipeline Sparking Outrage
In Jersey City


JERSEY CITY (CBS) ―


A proposed natural gas pipeline is getting a thumbs down from residents in one of the communities it would run through.

The proposed pipeline would run through a busy Jersey City neighborhood on the waterfront, near the PATH train. In fact, it would affect most of the neighborhoods along the coast, including Dale Hardman's.

"It's going to affect not only me, but over 60,000 people who live downtown in Jersey City," Hardman said. "There's over 100,000 when we include the people who work here, that work in our financial district."

Hardman and other neighbors have formed a group to stop the 21-mile pipeline.

"It's beyond horrifying, because this will be an industrial hell hole," Denise Katzman said. "Just to get these pipes in ? these aren't tiny pipes."

The pipeline would run from Staten Island through Bayonne, and up to Jersey City's south end, past the Holland Tunnel, and under the water to a Con Edison plant in Manhattan.

"There's another place to put this, and if you get a little further south of here, you can run that pipeline through Staten Island and across New York," Jersey City resident John Thieroff said. "New York should bear the risk for New York's gas needs."

The project is being proposed by Houston-based Spectra Energy. A spokesperson released the following statement: "Spectra Energy is working with elected officials, landowners and community leaders to ensure that our project provides community benefits with minimal disruption."

In the plan given to Jersey City, the company also says it would take every precaution to make sure the pipeline is safe, including placing warning signs and posts.

The mayor of Jersey City fears the warnings would be red flags for possible terrorists.

"The risk-benefit to Jersey City is just atrocious," Mayor Jerramiah Healy said. "We're bearing all of the risks, and getting none of the benefits."

Spectra Energy says it will be holding public meetings, and that the project is important because the demand for clean-burning natural gas continues to grow.

The plan would still have to be approved by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. Spectra plans to file an application.

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Has America found the "green ticket" to support our energy needs and reduce our dependency on foreign oil? Hydraulic fracturing, known as fracking, is a practice where drilling companies use a mixture of sand, water, and chemicals to "fracture" the rocks situated deep beneath the earth's surface in order to extract trapped natural gas. While drilling and fracking have been around for nearly 60 years, the verdict is definitely out on how the technological advances, coupled with exemptions from environmental regulations, will impact local communities ranging from rural areas in the Catskills to farms in Pennsylvania and the water supply in Texas. On Thursday, April 15th at 6:30 PM in The Great Hall at The Cooper Union (7 East 7th St. b/w 3rd and 4th Aves, NYC 10003), national experts -- Drs. Theo Colborn and Michel Boufadel and Professors Albert Appleton and Kevin Bone -- will explore its potential economic benefits and risks, separating fact from fiction in a free, public symposium. Urgent questions loom large: what chemicals are being used in the hydro-fracking process? Could this little-regulated, yet promising, energy solution ultimately put our landscape, water supply, and health at risk? Will it delay or destroy the development of alternative, sustainable green fuel sources? What is the government's position? Professor Kevin Bone, director of The Cooper Union Institute for Sustainable Design, will moderate the evening's dialogue featuring Dr. Theo Colborn, public health expert and president of the Endocrine Disruption Exchange in Paonia, Colorado, one of the country's leading experts on the impacts of the toxic chemicals used in fracking fluid. Dr. Michel Boufadel, director of the Temple University Department of Environmental Engineering, will review the costs and benefits of gas drilling and the extent to which the reality matches up. Mr. Albert Appleton, Adjunct Associate Professor at Cooper Union, former Commissioner of the New York City Department of Environmental Protection and a globally known expert on water resources protection and the economics of sustainability, will speak about the political debate and its implications for the future of American energy policy and efforts to address global warming. The public has an opportunity to participate and address concerns during the Q&A portion, which proceeds the presentation. Symposium Thursday, April 15, 6:30pm The Great Hall 7 East 7th Street Free and open to the public

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New2JCHeights wrote: OK, so what is the next step for those opposed to this pipeline?
Word has it that they are too big for us to fight. But one could surely start fighting back by looking for alternate sources of enery And spreading the word about this targedy in the making regarding this NOT welcomed pipeline, and the horrible things they do to our neighboring landowners. There are plenty of alternates...just saying... http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=Cw ... ls%2Bnj%26lid%3D582571913
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OK, so what is the next step for those opposed to this pipeline?


Word has it that they are too big for us to fight. But one could surely start fighting back by looking for alternate sources of enery

And spreading the word about this targedy in the making regarding this NOT welcomed pipeline, and the horrible things they do to our neighboring landowners.


There are plenty of alternates...just saying...

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=Cw ... ls%2Bnj%26lid%3D582571913

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OK, so what is the next step for those opposed to this pipeline?

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After seeing these presentations of where the pipeline would run, isn't this a MAJOR security risk?
The main path line from Newark and JSQ, the turnpike, the approach to the Holland Tunnel, a frequently used freight line all VERY close to this thing. Why don't they just put a big bullseye on the thing? The whole trade center rebuild was stopped because they thought the building was too close to the West side highway. So, NJ's population doesn't even get considered here?

This whole route plan also shows ignorance of the importance of the infrastructure for the whole metropolitan area. Instead of spending money on this technology that is can be dangerous, we need to put this towards sustainable energy and jobs for people here. What is the Port Authority's take on this, along with the Turnpike's? So far as I know the PA does't pay taxes so if something did happen, guess who will get the bill?

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Interesting...

http://cfpub.epa.gov/compliance/recent/index.cfm

Faces of the Grassroots: Environmental Justice Video Contest - We are sponsoring an environmental justice video contest that challenges amateur and professional filmmakers to create videos that capture the faces of the environmental justice movement. The Faces of the Grassroots contest is an opportunity to publicly exhibit creativity, environmental justice stories, and connect with others working to raise awareness of the movement. Entries must be received by 11:59pm Eastern time on Thursday, April 8th. We will announce winners in honor of the 40th Anniversary of Earth Day

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Drawing the line on pipeline
Officials, residents raise concerns at hearing about gas company proposal


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Residents living near downtown Jersey City got the opportunity on Tuesday to learn more about a natural gas pipeline a Texas company wants to run through the city ? as well as through Bayonne and ...
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Residents living near downtown Jersey City got the opportunity on Tuesday to learn more about a natural gas pipeline a Texas company wants to run through the city ? as well as through Bayonne and near southern Hoboken.

The few who attended the hearing came away saying they were unimpressed.

Spectra Energy Corp., based in Houston, Tex., held an ?informational meeting? at Public School 9 on Mercer Street, at which company representatives outnumbered the sparse turnout from the public.
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?I would prefer the pipeline did not come through the city at all.?? Kirsten Greene
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The meeting was to inform people about a 16-mile pipeline that would allow natural gas to flow from its existing metering and regulating station in Staten Island, N.Y. through Bayonne and Jersey City, and into Manhattan. The gas would initially come from Pennsylvania to the tri-state area and would transport up to 800 million cubic feet per day of new natural gas supplies. It could be in service by the end of 2013.

There is already political and community opposition to the project.

City Councilman Steven Fulop made his opposition known to the project in an interview with the Jersey City Reporter last month. Fulop is worried about a pipeline explosion and other hazards, especially in light of an explosion in his hometown of Edison in March 1994 of a different company?s pipeline after a contractor hit the pipeline during an excavation. Fulop recently gave his support to an internet group formed to provide updates on the project and a forum for the public to air their concerns.

Fulop has a surprising ally in this fight against the pipeline. His frequent political adversary, Mayor Jerramiah Healy, also came out against the pipeline. He sent a Jan. 29 letter to U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez, which is currently posted on the city?s website (cityofjerseycity.com).

?I am in opposition to the line?s creation in light of the potential hazards that it may pose upon completion,? Healy wrote, ?the negative effects of which would potentially be felt, not only by the residents of Jersey City, but also by the New York metropolitan region and possibly the world?s financial markets.?

Piping up on project

Downtown Jersey City resident Dale Hardman has formed a web group through Google, Jersey City Gas Pipeline (http://groups.google.com/group/jerseycitygas/), which functions as a forum for residents to post their concerns or learn more about the pipeline project being proposed by Spectra.

Hardman said he has not been able to attend the informational meetings in Jersey City but has done his research on Spectra and gas pipelines in general by visiting websites such as SpectraEnergyWatch (http://www.spectraenergywatch.com/blog/). He believes that residents across the city need to inform themselves on the hazards that a pipeline project brings.

?I don?t think people realize the amount of toxins that are released in the air when there is blow-off, because when gas is transmitted there is so much pressure going through the pipes,? Hardman said.

Hardman also expressed skepticism at Spectra?s informational meetings, saying they should do a presentation to a large audience at a site such as City Hall on Grove Street or Middle School 4 on Bright Street with a Q&A, rather than their current approach.

At Tuesday?s informational meeting, Spectra officials dressed in blue shirts with the company logo showed maps of proposed routes for the pipeline. The residents who attended said they were less than impressed after the showing.

Local documentary editor

Kirsten Greene, a video editor who lives with her husband and her two children near Hamilton Park, came with a friend to the meeting. Greene, who is part of the Jersey City Gas Pipeline group, learned about pipelines and the process of extracting gas from underground, known as fracking, while editing a documentary on the subject.

Greene said her research has shown that such projects have ruined many communities in the U.S.

She did not feel that her concerns about the pipeline were addressed by Spectra officials. She said the city will have to ?get some attorneys? to fight this project.

?I would prefer the pipeline did not come through the city at all,? Greene said.

Two upcoming informational meetings on the pipeline are scheduled in Bayonne: Monday, March 15, from 6 - 8 p.m., at CWV Post 1612, 18 West 23rd St., Bayonne; and Wednesday, March 17, 6 - 8 p.m., at Trinity Church (Trinity Parish in Bergen Point), 141 Broadway, Bayonne.

Ricardo Kaulessar can be reached at rkaulessar@hudsonreporter.com.

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Bayonne property owners see details of plan to run natural gas pipeline through city

Wednesday, March 17, 2010

Bayonne property owners at an open house Monday night got to see new details of plans to extend a natural gas pipeline through the city.

Wearing blue shirts, roughly 25 Spectra employees discussed the Houston-based energy company's plans. They met at the Catholic War Veterans on West 23rd Street with elected officials and land owners whose properties are in the pipeline's path.

Spectra Environmental manager Gus McLachlan said the company plans to upgrade an existing gas pipeline from Linden and the Goethals Bridge in Staten Island and then lay a new pipe along what he says is the most practical and cost-effective route to Manhattan - under the Kill Van Kill near the Bayonne Bridge, then through Bayonne and Jersey City.

John Baranowksi, of West 26th Street, and his neighbor Frank Rusin looked at a satellite map marked with a white line showing the route through Bayonne and said they were concerned about their safety.

"One section is close to our homes and we are not too happy," said Baranowski. "We are here to find out what we can do."

The meeting is the third of four to be held in Hudson County this month. The final meeting will be held tomorrow from 6 to 8 p.m. at Trinity Church on Broadway.

McLachlan said under current plans the pipeline would enter Bayonne from the Kill Van Kull at the Texaco-Chevron site to the west of Bayonne Bridge.

"We are not planning to run this through any buildings," McLachlan said

It would then run through Bergen Point - covered with at least 3 feet of soil - along First Street, up Lexington Avenue to Second Street and continue to Route 440 and turn east down Old Hook Road.

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"The blast happened near Chandler, which is about 45 miles northeast of Oklahoma City. Flames whipped by northerly winds could be seen shooting into the air"

Yeah, let's have a nice big fat gasline through one of the most densely populated cities in the NorthEast.
WHAT are these people using for brains???

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This happened yesterday in CHANDLER, OK.

Rusty pipe causes natural gas explosion

CHANDLER, OK -- A massive fire is now out after a 26 inch natural gas pipeline exploded. Officials say the pipeline rusted and the gas found weak spot in the pipe causing the explosion. The incident happened around 3:30 p.m. Lincoln County crews responded and put out the small grass fires. The pipeline flow has been shut off and caped.

The fire gave crews a bit of trouble because the area around the explosion is moist, not conducive to supporting heavy trucks.

However, because the area is wet, grass fires weren't an issue and the forestry didn't sustain much damage.

No injures have been reported.

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This happened in 1994 in Edison, NJ.


Edison, New Jersey natural gas explosion

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The Texas Eastern Transmission Corporation Natural Gas Pipeline Explosion and Fire occurred in Edison, New Jersey on March 23, 1994 where a 36" diameter natural gas pipeline broke and exploded into flames next to the Durham Woods apartment complex along New Durham Road at its junction with Interstate 287. The cause of this breakage was the fault of a local contractor who was trying to bury a truck in the area. The resulting fire destroyed or severely damaged 14 of the apartment buildings. Over 100 residents were left homeless and one death occurred from a heart attack suffered by Sandra Snyder, who was unable to summon emergency workers "amid the chaos." Because the fire occurred so close to the Durham Woods complex, residents in the area also refer to it as the Durham Woods fire.

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Few turn out in Jersey City to hear safety assurances on extending natural gas pipeline through city

Thursday, March 11, 2010
By MELISSA HAYES
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Braced for a large crowd, more than a dozen Spectra Energy representatives in matching blue shirts waited to talk residents through an array of maps inside a Jersey City school Tuesday night. The representatives almost outnumbered the attendees.

The company wants to extend its existing natural gas pipeline in Linden and Staten Island through Bayonne and Jersey City to Manhattan.

The meeting, held at School 9, was the second in Jersey City and two more are planned for Bayonne next week.

Spectra's Project Manager Ed Gonzalez said the route could change, but as proposed, it would extend from Staten Island under the Kill Van Kull through Bayonne along First Street, up Lexington Avenue to Second Street and continuing to the Fifth Street Connector to Route 440, in some places passing through industrial parks alongside the roadway, before reaching Jersey City.

The pipeline would continue along 440 in Jersey City to the New Jersey Turnpike and Route 78. It would follow Caven Point Road then pick up 78 again. The pipeline would cut into Jersey City around 18th Street and go out Long Slip behind the A&P and Target in Newport to cross the Hudson River to Manhattan.

Jersey City Ward A Councilman Michael Sottolano, whose ward would be impacted by the proposed route, said he had expected a bigger turnout.

Jersey City resident Denise Katzman, who attended the meeting, said: "I'm very concerned about them wanting to plop this stuff in dense areas and saying verbally they care about our health, they care about our environment, but can we get that in writing, can we get them to post multimillion-dollar bonds?"

The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission doesn't require public hearings until the company submits an application. Spectra plans to do that in June.

Gonzalez said the company has about 40 employees staying in Jersey City and that in 2012 when work begins it would create 100 jobs. He said 500 jobs would be created in 2013 when construction is underway.

Bayonne and Jersey City stand to make millions annually in tax revenue.

But some Jersey City Council members, Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy, Sen. Frank Lautenberg and the LeFrak Organization, Newport's major developer, say they have serious concerns about safety.

Gonzalez said for residents worried about safety, the entire pipe is X-rayed before it is filled with gas to ensure all the welds are secure. In addition, every seven years the company runs equipment through the entire pipeline to check for weak spots or damage.

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Jersey Journal front and back page news: Monday March 8

By The Jersey Journal
March 08, 2010, 12:32AM

Opposition has been growing in Hudson County to plans to build a natural gas pipeline through parts of Jersey City and Bayonne as the company behind it is planning public meetings and seeking support of landowners.

Meanwhile, two Jersey City teenage girls were wounded by gunfire while walking on Old Bergen Road over the weekend. And revelers at Hoboken's annual St. Patrick's celebration were apparently better behaved this year.

In Sports, St. Peter's Prep wrestler Kevin Innis lost in overtime for the state championship in his weight class. And it'll be St. Anthony against Paterson Catholic in the Non-Public B state basketball boys tournament.

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The US Congress does not write bills focused on our Jersey City Pipeline. The purpose of educating people about these bills is so that they know about the broader concerns of natural gas. Yes the bills deal with fracking. That doesn't make the bills any less important. They are the only thing out there now that can begin to save our forests, streams, rivers, livestock, and human health.

In order to understand the beast Jersey City is up against, one needs to look at how these companies treat local municipalities and residents throughout our United States.

For Instance:

"Right now in Hickory, PA over 400 homes are on water supply from the gas companies because of contaminated wells. This is kept secret because of confidentiality agreements with the energy companies. If they want water they have to sign this agreement" Testimony during a NYC environmental protection committee

An ER nurse, Cathy Behr, fell ill after being exposed to a gas-field worker who had come into the ER. He'd come into contact with one of the "secret formulas" drillers use to hydraulically fracture oil - and gas-bearing formations. The gas company REFUSED to tell her doctors what was in the fluid. Her liver, heart, and lungs began to shut down. The doctors had to guess what to do as they tried to keep her alive.

And MOST importantly:

Texas Midstream Gas Services (?TMGS?) has filed a lawsuit against the City of Grand Prairie over a city ordinance that imposes zoning standards on pipeline compressor stations.
http://startelegram.typepad.com/barne ... 8/10/texas-midstream.html


Spectra will answer your questions on the 15th. They'll tell you anything you want to here while they offer you pastries and other goodies.

The bigger question is how do we get our local government to want to engage on this issue?

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But those bills deal with hydraulic fracing, used in the production of natural gas. The pipeline is not dependent on any particular natural gas source or gas produced by a particular method of drilling. Passing those bills will not impede the pipeline.

In addition to the potential nuisance issues and the potential for airborne toxins from the pipeline operations, I'd really like to know (in advance, if it were possible) what happens to air quality when digging begins in remediated areas such as Newport. How deep will they have to go? To what depth were the remediations performed? What was remediated on each site? What measures will be taken to contain the potential release of these toxins?

I'm going to the meeting on the 15th in Bayonne. Hopefully there will be someone there who has answers.

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