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"Few conservative policy intellectuals, after making a show of thinking hard about the issues, claimed to be disturbed by reform’s fiscal implications (but were strangely unmoved by the clean bill of fiscal health from the Congressional Budget Office) or to want stronger action on costs (even though this reform does more to tackle health care costs than any previous legislation). For the most part, however, opponents of reform didn’t even pretend to engage with the reality either of the existing health care system or of the moderate, centrist plan — very close in outline to the reform Mitt Romney introduced in Massachusetts — that Democrats were proposing.
Instead, the emotional core of opposition to reform was blatant fear-mongering, unconstrained either by the facts or by any sense of decency." Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist
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"It’s hard to exaggerate the magnitude of the disaster. Conservatives may cheer themselves that they’ll compensate for today’s expected vote with a big win in the November 2010 elections. [...]
No illusions please: This bill will not be repealed. Even if Republicans scored a 1994 style landslide in November, how many votes could we muster to re-open the “doughnut hole” and charge seniors more for prescription drugs? How many votes to re-allow insurers to rescind policies when they discover a pre-existing condition? How many votes to banish 25 year olds from their parents’ insurance coverage? And even if the votes were there – would President Obama sign such a repeal? We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat. [...] So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours." - David Frum, former speechwriter to President George W. Bush
Posted on: 2010/3/22 19:12
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RIP Constitution.
Posted on: 2010/3/22 7:16
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 Houses Passes Health Care Bill 219-212 ![Click to see original Image in a new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2010/03/21/mn-health22_PH_0501372392_part6.jpg"); "Click to see original Image in a new window") ![Click to see original Image in a new window](javascript:CaricaFoto("http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gunshot.jpg"); "Click to see original Image in a new window")
Posted on: 2010/3/22 4:34
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Healthcare in the USA will continue to be unaffordable for all as long as we continue to pay CEO's like the one from United Healthcare.......... $102,000 PER HOUR!!!
( Not including stock options, mortgage payments and other perks) 
Posted on: 2010/2/21 22:05
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I disagree with the comment on more physicians, doctors are leaving the medical field based upon my earlier statement, they cannot afford liability insurance. As an example, there is no doctor in Bayonne who is delivering babies. The insurance for that field is high. Furthermore, doctors graduating from our NJ medical schools are applying to other states with caps on liability cost.
Posted on: 2010/1/3 17:37
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Right. If we really want to bring healthcare prices down, we need to figure out a way to increase the amount of doctors, hospitals, etc.
Posted on: 2010/1/3 16:46
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There is a shortage of medical personnel in the US, that's why you can queue jump immigration with that qualification.
The medical institutions have a monopoly on the situation - Just how many medical emergency hospitals are there in JC that can cater to any medical need ! We live in a user pays society - That's why some areas like manhattan has a siht load of medical practioners and our minor cities struggle to get any compatible service - it makes sense when you hear injured or ill people being air lifted here and there !
Posted on: 2010/1/2 23:52
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My humor is for the silent blue collar majority.
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Based on what? Quote: Cancer is so common then that of 40 years ago, that a healthy lifestyle might not preclude you from the illness - our water / air / and crap mixed with our food consumption needs to be addressed. Water/air - sure. (Especially in JC). We pick the food that we choose. How is that our health insurance companies fault? How are our lifestyles compared to other western countries? Do we eat better or worse? Do we exercise more or less? Are we fatter or leaner? Quote:
Nothing is free in life. Well, air -- but you get the point. It's not a matter of greed - it's a matter of supply vs. demand and the distortions in the market created by the government. I can be as greedy as I want, but if I'm overcharging for something, I won't be able to sell it. I want to know what about this bill will reduce health care costs.
Posted on: 2010/1/2 23:00
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For one of the richist nations on the planet, we are the worst at providing the basic needs to health for our citizens. Cancer is so common then that of 40 years ago, that a healthy lifestyle might not preclude you from the illness - our water / air / and crap mixed with our food consumption needs to be addressed.
There are western countries where cancer treatment is free - Some times I wonder if we would have been better off under British rule, where the commonwealth countries receive free treatment - Shame US, shame. Greed is being dictated on who gets what medical services.
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I'm confused why you are blaming the free market when it is not free - government is heavily involved in the industry.
Posted on: 2010/1/2 12:08
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To control health care cost, there must be a control on liability cost. Doctors have closed practices and hospitals have closed down to pay liability cost. We must remove the idea of winning the lottery when doctors and hospitals made a medical mistake. I know doctors who want to donate their services but cannot afford the liability cost so they volunteer overseas. These cost makes heallthcare unaffordable.
Posted on: 2010/1/1 20:13
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There is a health care CRISIS in the United States.
What's happening on the hill is not health care reform. It is an attempt at appeasment: How to placate the pharmaceutical and insurance industries while playing pass-the-buck with the citizenry. People are sicker and dying because of the unfettered for-profit model of pharmaceutical companies and because our nation has become a sue-for-a-hangnail/fender bender/spilled my coffee mess. Profiteering (versus profit-making) on people's illness is anti-social. Health-related industries should be incented to support preventive care and wellness as business behaviors and should pay for focusing on punitive actions toward the ill.
Posted on: 2009/12/31 13:44
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The Fed is bankrupting Medicare and SS, so they should more control over the industry?
Posted on: 2009/12/31 13:17
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This reminds me of Massachusetts raising cigarette tax to deal with its deficit resulting from universal health care program (it cost much more than the projection). Does the Commonwealth need smokers to keep smoking, non-smokers to start smoking, to get its expected tax revenue? Wonderful government intervention.
Posted on: 2009/12/30 0:40
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This is amazing. How many Senators have read the bill in its complete form? I doubt more than 10 of them have. How can we trust these people if they don't know sh*t about what they are voting?
BTW Bob Herbert is anti-Republican. ======================== http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/29/opinion/29herbert.html There is a middle-class tax time bomb ticking in the Senate’s version of President Obama’s effort to reform health care. The bill that passed the Senate with such fanfare on Christmas Eve would impose a confiscatory 40 percent excise tax on so-called Cadillac health plans, which are popularly viewed as over-the-top plans held only by the very wealthy. In fact, it’s a tax that in a few years will hammer millions of middle-class policyholders, forcing them to scale back their access to medical care. Which is exactly what the tax is designed to do. The tax would kick in on plans exceeding $23,000 annually for family coverage and $8,500 for individuals, starting in 2013. In the first year it would affect relatively few people in the middle class. But because of the steadily rising costs of health care in the U.S., more and more plans would reach the taxation threshold each year. Within three years of its implementation, according to the Congressional Budget Office, the tax would apply to nearly 20 percent of all workers with employer-provided health coverage in the country, affecting some 31 million people. Within six years, according to Congress’s Joint Committee on Taxation, the tax would reach a fifth of all households earning between $50,000 and $75,000 annually. Those families can hardly be considered very wealthy. Proponents say the tax will raise nearly $150 billion over 10 years, but there’s a catch. It’s not expected to raise this money directly. The dirty little secret behind this onerous tax is that no one expects very many people to pay it. The idea is that rather than fork over 40 percent in taxes on the amount by which policies exceed the threshold, employers (and individuals who purchase health insurance on their own) will have little choice but to ratchet down the quality of their health plans. These lower-value plans would have higher out-of-pocket costs, thus increasing the very things that are so maddening to so many policyholders right now: higher and higher co-payments, soaring deductibles and so forth. Some of the benefits of higher-end policies can be expected in many cases to go by the boards: dental and vision care, for example, and expensive mental health coverage. Proponents say this is a terrific way to hold down health care costs. If policyholders have to pay more out of their own pockets, they will be more careful — that is to say, more reluctant — to access health services. On the other hand, people with very serious illnesses will be saddled with much higher out-of-pocket costs. And a reluctance to seek treatment for something that might seem relatively minor at first could well have terrible (and terribly expensive) consequences in the long run. If even the plan’s proponents do not expect policyholders to pay the tax, how will it raise $150 billion in a decade? Great question. We all remember learning in school about the suspension of disbelief. This part of the Senate’s health benefits taxation scheme requires a monumental suspension of disbelief. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, less than 18 percent of the revenue will come from the tax itself. The rest of the $150 billion, more than 82 percent of it, will come from the income taxes paid by workers who have been given pay raises by employers who will have voluntarily handed over the money they saved by offering their employees less valuable health insurance plans. Can you believe it? I asked Richard Trumka, president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O., about this. (Labor unions are outraged at the very thought of a health benefits tax.) I had to wait for him to stop laughing to get his answer. “If you believe that,” he said, “I have some oceanfront property in southwestern Pennsylvania that I will sell you at a great price.” A survey of business executives by Mercer, a human resources consulting firm, found that only 16 percent of respondents said they would convert the savings from a reduction in health benefits into higher wages for employees. Yet proponents of the tax are holding steadfast to the belief that nearly all would do so. “In the real world, companies cut costs and they pocket the money,” said Larry Cohen, president of the Communications Workers of America and a leader of the opposition to the tax. “Executives tell the shareholders: ‘Hey, higher profits without any revenue growth. Great!’ ” The tax on health benefits is being sold to the public dishonestly as something that will affect only the rich, and it makes a mockery of President Obama’s repeated pledge that if you like the health coverage you have now, you can keep it. Those who believe this is a good idea should at least have the courage to be straight about it with the American people. Roger Cohen is off today.
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The closed-door negotiation isn't just about ignoring Republicans (which I am not one), but it ignores public opinions as well. More Americans oppose to this bill than those who support it.
All those dirty deals among those elected Senators... Why should New Jersey, which has already extended health care to the poor (which should be rewarded, not punished), subsidize Nebraska which has done a lot less? It doesn't make sense. As somebody pointed out, intervention of government only produces more lobbyist groups, not fewer. That's why the lobbyist population in DC doubled from last year, although Mr. Obama vowed to reduce it before he became the President. The same just applied to special interest groups at the state level. It's ironic that many NJ Democrats I've met disdain those "Red States" including, e.g., Nebraska and Alabama, yet they are willing to pay for their health care bills.
Posted on: 2009/12/29 20:08
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This heathcare debate is all about one thing and that is:::
GREED!!! The doctors don't want to give anything up, the hospitals don't want to give anything up, the pharmacuticals don't want to give anything up and the least but not last, the Insurance companies don't want to give anything up$$$!!! People in other nations that have socialized health care are not passing away at a greater rate than here in the US and this BS about quality care is just that BS!!!! The powers to be want to incite fear into anyone thats listening about how bad healthcare will become if we socialize it, long lines, waiting years for a CT Scam, etc, etc. Give me a break, if anyone really buys into this bullcrap, than you deserve to get taken to the cleaners.. The gov't was quick to write a check to the Big 3 automakers and the big boy bankers just a few months ago but can't find a way to provide healthcare for everyone????? Huhm.........??????????????????
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Your Socratic method must be a real hit at parties. In this case some of the answers to your questions are already contained in my post. The rest question positions which I never even took. Purposely obtuse is no way to go through life.
Posted on: 2009/12/29 8:48
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*Breaking News* Bills have lots of words. Breakdown Try to read it slow. The biggest thing in the bill that I support is not allowing insurers to deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. My brother has HCM and had to go a year past his mandatory pacemaker checkup because he was considered "high risk" (translation: low profit).
Posted on: 2009/12/29 2:36
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Vigilante, I think I love you.
Posted on: 2009/12/29 1:55
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That's a terrible story. Exactly who was this woman? I would REALLY like to know?
Posted on: 2009/12/29 1:33
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Actually, every American and every illegal immigrant has access to Healthcare. Unfortunately it is in the Emergency Room. By the time most people get to the ER their condition has usually progressed to the point where any treatment is going to be extensive and expensive. In other words, all citizens, legal or not, have access to catastrophic healthcare. Who pays for that care? You and me and all insured people in the form of higher and higher healthcare costs. What about insured people who get seriously ill or have chronic, genetic pre-existing conditions? Right now the Insurance companies can drop them from coverage. Even if they stay covered the Insurance Co. will limit coverage and the so-called insured get socked with massive bills they could never pay. The next step? Bankruptcy. In other words, it is a ripple effect. People go bankrupt, bills don't get paid and the costs of all things get passed down the line. The argument/conspiracy theory that this is some first step towards socialism and total goverment control is just plain silly. People only think they have "choice" now when it comes to healthcare but in reality the Insurance Companies and doctors dictate your "choice". When you can have certain tests done, who you can see etc. etc. Yes, if you are wealthy, you have lots of choice. That has been a fact forever. If you are middle-class? Not so lucky. I would suggest reading this link below. It is simplified but it explains a lot about costs and who pays etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States
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It is part of the benefits package offered by most employers. The fact that healthcare is earned and part of compensation makes it taxable. Right, MOST employers. What if the only job you can find (especially right now given the job market) is with an employer who does not offer healthcare? I really wonder about people who think healthcare has to be earned or that it's NOT a right. Have they ever gone without insurance and gotten sick? Have they ever had to declare bankruptcy because they couldn't pay astronomical medical bills? Have they ever been turned down by an insurer because of some ridiculous "pre-existing condition" clause?
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I just wanted to address Chester's loony comments.
Healthcare is earned. It is part of the benefits package offered by most employers. The fact that healthcare is earned and part of compensation makes it taxable. I would like to see the correlation between people without healthcare and people who committed felonies and/or dropped out of high school. I have a feeling that in many cases they would be mutually inclusive.
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What about the article do you have issue with? Quote:
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This bill will improve incentives to heal? How? How will this bill make us better off?
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Its so convaluted that no one can really provide you with a clear explanation as to how its going to work, etc, etc, etc...
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I just want to know how this bill will work and how it will make things better.
Posted on: 2009/12/28 20:13
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I wonder how Joe Smith from Local123 in Anytown, USA will vote once he realizes his healthcare wil be taxed and his state taxes will go up to pay for other people's healthcare. When it takes three days for his sick son to see his pediatrician because of all his new patients on the public dole, I wonder how Joe Smith will feel. When his father gets denied care from medicare due to $470 billion in cuts, I wonder how Joe will feel about paying for other people's healthcare.
I wonder how Joe will feel when Joe realizes that one party voted for all these changes. I wonder how Joe will feel when he realizes Congress sold him out. I wonder, I wonder, I wonder. Good luck keeping Joe's vote.
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Ooops! yeah.
Um um um... let me see...I'm supposed to talk only about...Tiger Woods, Miley, and the balloon kid. .....And locally....just who has the BEST BBER and what house is decorated to MOST socially acceptable for the SEASON! Ooops... GOT IT! Do I fit in NOW?
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