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That's easy, cut spending to close the budget, and going forward, limit the growth in spending to the growth in state revenues (taxes, really). One of the functions of government is to set the budget priorities, ie. prioritize the cuts. The hard part is withstanding the heat from all of the special interests that would have their money taken away. Very few politicians are able to do this, hence the situation we're in.
Posted on: 2009/10/3 11:00
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And two paragraphs later: "The private sector saw job growth of 2.9 percent in its second straight month of increases. Meanwhile, in the public sector -- which is about a fifth of the size of the private sector -- jobs fell by 2.1 percent." Still not seeing where you are getting the info that the public sector has grown in NJ.
Posted on: 2009/10/3 10:36
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http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/ ... 53166306278350.xml&coll=1
New Jersey's private sector showed its second straight month of growth, and state Labor Commissioner David Socolow said he thought the sector saw a bottom in May.
Posted on: 2009/10/3 10:14
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NJ pays more per student than most of the states in this country. Why? How are other states able to spend less? And, I am sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't believe that we should throw money at a school system just because it is an urban district with low test scores. THAT DOESN'T WORK. And speaking of Abbott, why is Hoboken an abbot district? There are plenty of other towns (woodbridge comes to mind) who have much lower HHI and are not abbott funded. And I have seen plenty of families in Hoboken and JC who put their children in the Abbott school who could afford a private preschool. Why are we paying for what is essentially daycare? And yes, I do support taking away someone's pension for lying on his resume and saying he has a phD when he really did not. It is grounds for dismissal in the private sector, it should be grounds for dismissal in the public. His pension should be taken away. I understand how this is impossible in NJ, but at the least the townspeople of Freehold should not be paying out the rest of his contract. And yes, our taxes should support the schools and the roads. I never said that we should get rid of tolls, but increasing tolls 800% just to generate income insteading of making cuts is insulting.
Posted on: 2009/10/3 10:05
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What are the stats on this 'growth' in the public sector? I'm not saying it's not true, I'd just like to see a source so I know what you're referring to. As for cutting the State education budget? Right, that'll help, because somehow the schools will just cost less. And the municipalities won't be forced to raise their local taxes to compensate for it. LOL. Quote:
Nope. And it's not enough to balance the budget. Or even come close. Quote:
And plenty of states have much much higher gas taxes than NJ does. That's always been the trade-off between our toll roads and our gas prices. I can choose to avoid toll roads, but I can't choose to not pay a higher gas tax if one gets imposed. Any other bright ideas?
Posted on: 2009/10/3 10:00
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The magic wand doesn't exist to fix the clusterfuck that this state has become. pension to 401k is fine but cutting the education budget (which education budget?) doesn't produce better public schools, does it? Should folks who don't have kids in the school system pay taxes to support it?
I'd like to see these states with large urban centers that have "great" public school systems there. The public schools have to provide ed. services to every kid in the city, regardless of the child's abilities or circumstances. A typical kid in Westfield is having a totally different day than a typical kid in JC. That affects his ability to succeed in school. You may think a crisis intervention worker in a school is extraneous until you count up the number of times that worker has saved a kid from falling through the cracks. Unless you think the kid should go it alone. btw-the NJEA wouldn't have had much to do with the supe's contract. He's management. (Not that the NJEA wouldn't have; they just didn't in this case.) Someone's gotta pay for the roads, too. Should drivers pay a bigger share than commuters? Do you support a gas tax increase? Should drivers pay for mass transit improvements? Do you support taking away someone's pension because he got a good deal (legally)? If you have one, would you wanna give it up? Would you want your union to back you up? I'm not apologizing for the hacks and crooks. I'm just saying that these ideas all sound great in the context of your personal political perspective, but to really make change you can't just say the other guy's an idiot, and corrupt. or can you?
Posted on: 2009/10/3 9:39
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The public sector has grown this past year whereas the private sector has shrunk. How is this in line with what is going on with the economy? How does this mean that Jersey is run properly? Honestly, I'd be able to wave my magic wand by cutting the Abbott program. It does not work and was found to be unconstitutional. I'd also get rid of NJ pensions for all new state workers. They can get a 401K just like everyone else. I'd also cut the education budget. Many states have excellent school systems without the massive amount of property taxes that NJ pays that are allocated to the schools. We need a governor who doesn't bow down to the NJEA. This is a state where a school superintendent got a phD from a degree mill and the whole BOED was aware about it and paid for it! And the only reason why he "stepped down" was because of public pressure. And guess what? He has one more year in his "contract" and he will be paid for sitting on his ass, doing NOTHING. The only thing he gave up was a $2500 stipend. Of course, he'll still keep his pension. Ridiculous. Is my magic wand enough for you? Oh and, plenty of states have interstate highways that do not charge you for driving it. I would think that NJ which has the highest taxes in the COUNTRY should be able to take that money to "maintain" the NJ turnpike.
Posted on: 2009/10/3 9:08
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So my modest research shows that no state contributes as much per students at Charter Schools as they do to public schools and in fact NJ gives more than most states give to their charter schools per student.
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Posted on: 2009/10/3 7:41
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Yeah, but he wants to tell you what kind of donuts you are allowed to eat. As far as I'm concerned, that's the sort of thing that should be between you and your baker.
Posted on: 2009/10/3 0:58
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But he is for doughnuts. So, there's that going for him.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 23:11
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+1 Robin
Mr. Christie is also against a woman's right to choose.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 20:14
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Driving to Hoboken today I saw many Chris Christie campaign posters that read "We share the same beliefs".
Last nights debate on NJN Christie told us he DOES NOT support same sex marriages in New Jersey. Well, Mr Christie we DO NOT share the same beliefs. I am a bit conservative. I am "straight". I vote. And ~ I support same sex marriages.... I will NOT vote for him to be my next Governor. The End~
Posted on: 2009/10/2 17:29
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I'm inclined to think that schools, controlled by local school boards, have a lot more to do with local decisions than policies coming from Trenton.
One accomplishment Corzine did recently achieve was the elimination of childless Boards of Education. That's right, there were entire school districts without a single child in the school; the only responsibility was sending children to other school districts.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 12:38
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I am not so familiar with the education issue, particularly as it pertains to Charter Schools. Is there some reason why charter schools should get more state assistance than other private schools? If so, what is that reason. Otherwise, have private schools historically received the same per student state assistance as public schools? My questions are sincere, not to be sarcastic at all.
But without knowing the particulars, I am inclined to believe that public schools should get more per student than a private school should. Again, I am not so familiar with how the Charter school system works. Of course I should research this myself.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 12:20
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Why I'm not voting for Corzine..by a once loyal democrat.
The two issues that matter most to me are education and corruption. Corzine fairs poorly on both issues. During the debate Corzine spoke how under his administration charter school attendence has increased from 14,000 students to 22,000 students. This increase is in part due to the fact that existing charter schools have increased their capacity. The Learning Commuity Charter School increased their enrollment by 50% by purchasing a building on Kennedy Blvd. This was done with no help from Corzine. The LCCS receives approx $8500 per student from the state and city....The average expediture on each JC public school child is $17,000. Why is Corzine so indifferent to charter schools ...Teacher Unions. A base of the democratic party is union workers and Corzine has done a poor job negotiating concessions from unions ..if he is not literally in bed with the unions ( Ms. Katz) then he is figuratively...cops , fireman, civil servants ect. Come next month they will be loyal democrats and vote for Corzine. Corzines silence during our current Hudson County political scandal is deafening. He has said and done nothing in regard to how buisness is done in Jersey City. Silence about our bloated county payroll,silence about the envelopes being passed, silence on how abatements are awarded behind closed doors. This November their is a choice Chris Daggett for Governor.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 11:48
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"Low taxes" is not a policy position. Neither Corzine nor Christie are going to dramatically alter the tax revenues of the state. There are two differences between Corzine and Christie: How, or rather, in what ways and from what groups, will the current revenue requirements be met, and what services and departments will receive priority funding or endure funding cuts. The best indicator of future events is past performance. Hence it is highly unlikely the state's expenditures will actually decrease. What can change is the structure of taxation-- rates for various income brackets, changes on taxes for properties, or fees for services. Assuming also that either candidate will eventually expend roughly the same amount of revenue, and that most budgetary items are more or less locked in through long term obligations or contracts, there is a very small amount of money that is available for discretionary allocation. But some allocations will in fact be discretionary, and this is where policies differ. Perhaps one candidate would prefer pumping money into the state universities while another rather focus on environmental projects or infrastructure improvements. Ultimately, despite promises, neither candidate is going to "lower taxes."
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It seems there's information that supports that Chester. I have always considered myself an independent, but am a registered democrate so I could vote in the primaries.
The pundits report that Daggett won last night's debate, but he just didn't do it for me. As far as I'm concerned I don't think he demonstratred the strength to manage tough decision making. Quote:
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Daggett is to Christie what Ralph Nader was to Gore. Votes for Daggett help Corzine, not Christie.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 10:26
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Yes. I just wish he had been the one to push the 401k-type retirement plan for new government workers, as opposed to the current pension program.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 10:20
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I just sent in my voter registration form. I'm inclined to vote for Christie. To those of you who have followed NJ politics for longer than me, I am open to changing my mind.
Important issues for me are taxes (I want them low) and gun control (I like my guns).
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If u weren't a partisan before the debate last night, would chris daggett be your man?
Posted on: 2009/10/2 10:09
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800%??? I need to pay more attention to my E-Z pass statements.
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Posted on: 2009/10/2 9:53
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Okay, how would you have balanced the budget, if you took the office of Governor in 2006? Aside from waving that magic wand of yours. Be specific. Thanks.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 9:51
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That's right, because once you build a roadway, all the maintenance, lane expansions, new interchanges, snow removal, and general upkeep come free with an unlimited lifetime warranty.
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Yes, you do. You just can't admit it. Quote: Corzine seemed to be most able do navigate a challenging economic downturn while balancing a historically mismanaged budget and government. Corzine is part of this history, you know.
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People who are voting along party lines just because are fools. +1 Couldn't agree more.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 9:14
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The turnkpike has been paid for years and years ago. It is now used as a revenue generator. Remember, it was Corzine's idea to increase the turnkpike tolls 800% instead of balancing the budget and cutting the fat in government. It is just another way to "stealth tax" the people of NJ. Corzine has done nothing for NJ. People who are voting along party lines just because are fools.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 8:49
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Yes. If you don't understand why, I'm sorry the public schools of this state didn't explain how government works. Perhaps you should check out a book from the public library and read up on the philosophy of government. Sitting in the public park next to the library is a great place to read. If the local library doesn't have the books you need, you could always take public transit to New Brunswick and do your research at the public university library.
Posted on: 2009/10/2 1:33
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any gov. who would refuse stimulus money is a fool. its a load of b.s. they use to appeal to the anti "big government" crowd.
christie may have tried to paint himself as some corruption busting hero, but its far from the truth. he has some corruption issues of his own... he's a politician, they all do. any politician who has been at it this long is bound to. very few keep their hands clean, and i certainly wouldn't think anyone involved in the bush administration would be in that very few. christie is a phony who is counting on enough people disliking corzine to put him in the governor's seat. not to mention NJ is one of the next few states in line to pass marriage equality, sure we have civil unions but they have been proven to be unequal to full rights of marriage. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/nyregion/28civil.html http://www.politickernj.com/matt-frie ... ns-are-not-equal-marriage that is my personal issue, among many that i just never agree with republicans on. christie is a republican through and through. any "democrat for christie" needs to change their registration to something else.
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I'm not voting for Christie, but Corzine has ideas? What has he done that deserves a vote?
Posted on: 2009/10/1 22:21
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