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lsp and lsc are nice, but the driving to there is not. I remember getting off grand st and driving through the local roads there a couple times, and always you got gangbangers lining up the street.

Driving is fine just be alert if you are the only car at a stop light, but i wouldnt want to walk there.


You are making this up. Gangbangers? Lined up along the street? Always? I cannot accept this is true.

I have driven to LSP countless times over the years and never once felt unsafe. And I'm sort of a chicken.


huh? maybe i will take some pics next time. Coming from downtown i always go from grand st to pacific ave then se. When you get closer to lsc, i see those badly modded japanese cars with the gangbangers standing around them. I dont know if they are flashing signs or what, but they are always there.

To the pitbull chick, get off your high horse, it has nothing to do with the color/race.

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So I must ask..Does it have to be this way? ( Scary as hell) Why is this not unacceptable? What have our elected officials done to make Jersey City Residents feel safe? Most of them have been in office anywhere from 8 to 16 years. Shouldn't resident safety be the # 1 priority?



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I'm a woman and I have lived here a while. The only neighborhood I avoid at all costs is Ocean Ave and Neptune and round those parts. Would not drive thru there in an armored car with police escort.

As for the rest of the city, it's a block by block thing (old time listers in the house!). Use your best judgement. Stay calm and don't panic.

I'm getting super uncomfortable with this theory that people can't go anywhere outside their safe downtown vicinity -- ooh, too scary, stay where it's safe, gangs! gangs! gangs! It perpetuates the already crappy attitude about our city and it also creates what I consider an unnecessary wave of panic about anything remotely urban.

Listen, I love my safe little VVP enclave, don't get me wrong. And I wouldn't advise just dawdling around areas you don't know, since that's just asking for trouble. But let's stop making this sounds like the scariest place on earth because that's unfair.

Except Ocean Avenue. AVOID.

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For those saying it is unsafe...I am curious to know is there any place you feel safe in JC besides Paulus Hook, Newport, and some parts of the Grove st area? A while ago i thought people actually had something against the beacon (with all the ranting on that thread), now i am starting to believe jennymayla's theory above may be very true.

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lsp and lsc are nice, but the driving to there is not. I remember getting off grand st and driving through the local roads there a couple times, and always you got gangbangers lining up the street.

Driving is fine just be alert if you are the only car at a stop light, but i wouldnt want to walk there.


You are making this up. Gangbangers? Lined up along the street? Always? I cannot accept this is true.

I have driven to LSP countless times over the years and never once felt unsafe. And I'm sort of a chicken.


huh? maybe i will take some pics next time. Coming from downtown i always go from grand st to pacific ave then se. When you get closer to lsc, i see those badly modded japanese cars with the gangbangers standing around them. I dont know if they are flashing signs or what, but they are always there.

To the pitbull chick, get off your high horse, it has nothing to do with the color/race.

ps jennymalyle bring back the old avatar, the new one sucks.

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Indomitus you're sarcasm is amusing. Thanks for the info Jennymayla. And Iwitness the first post after the article was about safety, the conversation stayed on that topic so I did too. Noone answered the original posters question about why it took so long to get reported and I don't know the answer to that.

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Please. Everyone knows that any neighborhood in JC that is not a lighter shade of pale, with luxury condos (with amenities) every 6 feet next to a Starbucks is a "sketchy and bad neighborhood filled with gangbangers lining the streets - who by the way only wear extra large white T-shirts....

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From The Beacon? Walk down Montgomery, turn right on Jersey, take it to the end, over the bridge and through the boatyard. Bam, you're there.

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Hey guys this is about the commute to LSP. I would like to know the best and shortest route walking from Montgomery Street please.


Funny, I thought this was about a young man being shot through the skull.

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Hey guys this is about the commute to LSP. I would like to know the best and shortest route walking from Montgomery Street please.

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I cannot ignore the ignorance of others, if I feel strongly about something I say it, as do you.


And I think you should comment when you feel strongly about something. But, that you appear to "feel strongly" that any mention of race---innocuous or not---deserves your comment does not suggest that you "really hate to make this a race issue."

As a side note, I really think people like you contribute to the problem of race relations in this country. I merely gave a physical description of myself and you jumped all over it. When this happens, it cements my perception that white people aren't allowed to mention race---even when giving a physical description of THEMSELVES---without having the uber-sensitive PC police on their back.



excuse me, I did not jump on you, please feel free to show me where I did... I asked you a question, to which you still did not respond, so I will ask again.

Why did you feel the need to include you are white?
You might as well said I drive a white car... because uhh it does not matter.

People like "me" do not contribute to race relations, I just wish that your "whiteness" was not included in the discussion, I just took a college course which taught that when race is not important to the matter then you leave it out. I am only going by what I have just learned. Forgive me if I attacked you, Your Whiteness

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i'd like to interject , the kids in these sketchy bad hoods in the surrounding area of LSP ( ex. Westside, Ocean , Audobon areas after Essex Street...) have used the Lightrail to get off at Exch Place and Newport only to start trouble and look for trouble. I've driven to these neighborhoods near LSP it is not advisable to have a woman or anyone to just go their at their own risk. sorry but i've been living in JC all my life to know how these areas are.


I'm a woman and I have lived here a while. The only neighborhood I avoid at all costs is Ocean Ave and Neptune and round those parts. Scary as hell. Would not drive thru there in an armored car with police escort.

As for the rest of the city, it's a block by block thing (old time listers in the house!). Use your best judgement. Stay calm and don't panic.

I'm getting super uncomfortable with this theory that people can't go anywhere outside their safe downtown vicinity -- ooh, too scary, stay where it's safe, gangs! gangs! gangs! It perpetuates the already crappy attitude about our city and it also creates what I consider an unnecessary wave of panic about anything remotely urban.

Listen, I love my safe little VVP enclave, don't get me wrong. And I wouldn't advise just dawdling around areas you don't know, since that's just asking for trouble. But let's stop making this sounds like the scariest place on earth because that's unfair.

Except Ocean Avenue. AVOID.

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I cannot ignore the ignorance of others, if I feel strongly about something I say it, as do you.


And I think you should comment when you feel strongly about something. But, that you appear to "feel strongly" that any mention of race---innocuous or not---deserves your comment does not suggest that you "really hate to make this a race issue."

As a side note, I really think people like you contribute to the problem of race relations in this country. I merely gave a physical description of myself and you jumped all over it. When this happens, it cements my perception that white people aren't allowed to mention race---even when giving a physical description of THEMSELVES---without having the uber-sensitive PC police on their back.

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i'd like to interject , the kids in these sketchy bad hoods in the surrounding area of LSP ( ex. Westside, Ocean , Audobon areas after Essex Street...) have used the Lightrail to get off at Exch Place and Newport only to start trouble and look for trouble. I've driven to these neighborhoods near LSP it is not advisable to have a woman or anyone to just go their at their own risk. sorry but i've been living in JC all my life to know how these areas are.

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Look, I really hate to make this a race issue but some of these comments in here are alluding to the elephant in the room


You sure don't seem to hate to make this a race issue. In fact, you seem like one of those people who actively enjoys making things into a race issue.

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why do you bother to go all the way there to run. you live in paulus hook right? just run along the waterfront walkway from newport down to the piers by goldman. It's a nice path....


That's what I've been doing but I just wanted to mix it up a bit, especially for a weekend long run.



I cannot ignore the ignorance of others, if I feel strongly about something I say it, as do you.

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Look, I really hate to make this a race issue but some of these comments in here are alluding to the elephant in the room


You sure don't seem to hate to make this a race issue. In fact, you seem like one of those people who actively enjoys making things into a race issue.

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why do you bother to go all the way there to run. you live in paulus hook right? just run along the waterfront walkway from newport down to the piers by goldman. It's a nice path....


That's what I've been doing but I just wanted to mix it up a bit, especially for a weekend long run.

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lsp and lsc are nice, but the driving to there is not. I remember getting off grand st and driving through the local roads there a couple times, and always you got gangbangers lining up the street.

Driving is fine just be alert if you are the only car at a stop light, but i wouldnt want to walk there.


You are making this up. Gangbangers? Lined up along the street? Always? I cannot accept this is true.

I have driven to LSP countless times over the years and never once felt unsafe. And I'm sort of a chicken.



Not at all... I mean people hanging out on the street sure.... whatever... you see people out downtown all the time. But I guess since you see young, black kids they are "gangbangers" I will not accept that unless you tell me you have seen them flashing gang signs, holding a piece, and or wearing gang related colors ( although they don't really wear colors anymore)

Look, I really hate to make this a race issue but some of these comments in here are alluding to the elephant in the room

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lsp and lsc are nice, but the driving to there is not. I remember getting off grand st and driving through the local roads there a couple times, and always you got gangbangers lining up the street.

Driving is fine just be alert if you are the only car at a stop light, but i wouldnt want to walk there.


You are making this up. Gangbangers? Lined up along the street? Always? I cannot accept this is true.

I have driven to LSP countless times over the years and never once felt unsafe. And I'm sort of a chicken.

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*sigh*..... so a black or hispanic female might have less of a hard time? Cheese and Rice!


Take it easy, captain. I was merely giving a physical description of myself. You can find whatever part of that description relevant or not relevant at your discretion.



It is actually irrelevant to what your saying, by stating your white that has nothing to do with whether you will be safe or not.

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Someone alluded to questionable safety on the pedestrian bridge that I would use to run to the park. That was my main concern.


why do you bother to go all the way there to run. you live in paulus hook right? just run along the waterfront walkway from newport down to the piers by goldman. It's a nice path....

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They are not saying LSP is not safe, its that shit area of "Pine Street near Johnson Avenue".
What is not safe about LSP?


Someone alluded to questionable safety on the pedestrian bridge that I would use to run to the park. That was my main concern.

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*sigh*..... so a black or hispanic female might have less of a hard time? Cheese and Rice!


Take it easy, captain. I was merely giving a physical description of myself. You can find whatever part of that description relevant or not relevant at your discretion.

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They are not saying LSP is not safe, its that shit area of "Pine Street near Johnson Avenue".
What is not safe about LSP?

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Yes, we call that the "rape bridge".


So running this route on a weekend morning wouldn't be advisable? http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3149800

I'm a not-very-big young-ish, white female.




*sigh*..... so a black or hispanic female might have less of a hard time? Cheese and Rice!

The area is fine (to me anyways) I have a few dogs I walk at the Foundry and I go there at 10, 11pm and have no problems at all.

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Susie, I've never seen anything to worry about along that route and I bike it all the time. Enjoy your park!

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lsp and lsc are nice, but the driving to there is not. I remember getting off grand st and driving through the local roads there a couple times, and always you got gangbangers lining up the street.

Driving is fine just be alert if you are the only car at a stop light, but i wouldnt want to walk there.

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Thanks for the reply!

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I don't see any problem crossing the foot bridge at the end of Jersey Ave...I do it all the time running alone or with groups (I am also a not so big white female) at all different times of the day/night.

In the mornings on weekends there are many people who take that route - dog walkers, bikers, runners/walkers. You'd be surprised at how many people use the park at very early hours - I've even seen people there on weekday mornings. On the weekend you should have no problems.

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Yes, we call that the "rape bridge".


So running this route on a weekend morning wouldn't be advisable? http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3149800

I'm a not-very-big young-ish, white female.

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