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at night they only run on one track so it can be confusing.

Confusing at 23rd & 14th Streets as well as Exchange Pl. because these tracks require walking to a seperate station or the other side of the station not just a simple 180 degree turn and walk across the platform.

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at night they only run on one track so it can be confusing.

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or you can simply look up to the overhead wall, which clearly states "uptown - 33rd" or "downtown - New Jersey"

but yeah, would be nice if the trains were correctly labeled.

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So this is mostly a rant, nothing more really, but maybe the only place to say this since the Port Authority just doesn't care.

Anyway, why the hell can't the trains display the right destinations? I got to ride a car to 33rd Street and back last night because the first car said Journal square on it even though it was head to 33rd. I know keeping those old and busted cars in good repair is a problem, but don't label the train incorrectly. Screw you Port Authority.

At what station did you board ? Because (rule of thumb) the Nyc bound trains usually ride on Track 1 and the Jersey bound trains ride on Track 2.


Late night, all bets are off as to what tracks trains are coming on. I was at Christopher which I always think is disorienting anyway.

Don't be so quick to throw in your chips. When the trains travel on the usual tracks such as Christopher St., when facing the Jersey bound track (2) the train travels towards the left. So if it was on track 1 going back to Jersey then the train would travel towards the right with track 2 behind you. Nyc travels eastward, Jersey travels westward.

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I rode the new trains twice. They are quieter and smoother.

There are about 30 seats. For those with fat asses and/or thick winter coats, they only fit 15.

The trains do not look comfortable to me. Maybe it's the blue color, or the lack of standing room near the doors.

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Saw one of the shiny new trains yesterday afternoon. Didn't ride it since it was going the opposite direction, but does anyone know if they seat more people? Besides being new, what are the improvements made on these new cars?

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So this is mostly a rant, nothing more really, but maybe the only place to say this since the Port Authority just doesn't care.

Anyway, why the hell can't the trains display the right destinations? I got to ride a car to 33rd Street and back last night because the first car said Journal square on it even though it was head to 33rd. I know keeping those old and busted cars in good repair is a problem, but don't label the train incorrectly. Screw you Port Authority.

At what station did you board ? Because (rule of thumb) the Nyc bound trains usually ride on Track 1 and the Jersey bound trains ride on Track 2.


Late night, all bets are off as to what tracks trains are coming on. I was at Christopher which I always think is disorienting anyway.

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So this is mostly a rant, nothing more really, but maybe the only place to say this since the Port Authority just doesn't care.

Anyway, why the hell can't the trains display the right destinations? I got to ride a car to 33rd Street and back last night because the first car said Journal square on it even though it was head to 33rd. I know keeping those old and busted cars in good repair is a problem, but don't label the train incorrectly. Screw you Port Authority.

At what station did you board ? Because (rule of thumb) the Nyc bound trains usually ride on Track 1 and the Jersey bound trains ride on Track 2.

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I took a nice detour to WTC the same way. got on the 33rd St train at Grove, headphones on, nose in a book, didn't hear or see "next stop Exchange Place."

good times.

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So this is mostly a rant, nothing more really, but maybe the only place to say this since the Port Authority just doesn't care.

Anyway, why the hell can't the trains display the right destinations? I got to ride a car to 33rd Street and back last night because the first car said Journal square on it even though it was head to 33rd. I know keeping those old and busted cars in good repair is a problem, but don't label the train incorrectly. Screw you Port Authority.

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the simple thing to do would just ALWAYS have on these screens how far off the next train is.

Just have it always displayed.

right there with the time.

Easy.

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I rode a new car from Grove to 33rd on Monday morning. I have to say that the ride was less bumpy and also quieter. The cars are nice and bright and are not that ugly beige and orange color anymore.

Overall, I'd say it is a better experience to start your day.

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I've been coming home very late at night from work lately, and have seen them testing the new screens. Looking forward to having something updated more frequently than "Pathvision," which always seemed like a massive waste of TVs. Alas, no more "Getting TRAIN BRAIN? How about a little TUNNEL VISION?"

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News worthy.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_d ... 2cd029dc207055a6a3b9d1dee

NBC in Transit Launches in New Jersey Market
April 6, 2009

-By Katy Bachman

NBC Everywhere (NBC's place-based, out-of-home division), JCDecaux North America and The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey launched their long-awaited digital network on the New Jersey PATH system. Called NBC in Transit, the ad-supported network of 3,000 digital screens in the trains and at the PATH stations, airs local and national content from NBC and customer information from PATH reaching 6.3 million monthly riders.

NBC in Transit is the latest addition to NBC Everywhere's portfolio of digital out-of-home platforms, including its network in New York City taxicabs, NBC@Times Square and several other networks.

Effective Monday (April 6), NBC in Transit will go live in Hoboken, Journal Square and 33rd Street PATH stations, rolling out to the other 10 PATH stations and inside new trains throughout the year.

Sales for the network will be handled exclusively by NBC Everywhere, but all three partners will share in the advertising revenue. Inaugural advertisers on the network include Hilton Hotels, Jet Blue and State Farm.

"NBC in Transit is an innovative way to reach our travelers and guests in new digital media, and enables us as advertisers to target the tri-state area's travel-oriented and upscale commuting audience," said Dave Horton, global head, Hilton Hotels & Resorts.

The network also serves as a promotion for NBC content, which will air local news and weather from its New York flagship WNBC; local lifestyle clips from LX.TV; headlines from MSNBC and CNBC; and entertainment clips from NBCU programs.

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OK, I saw a new Path train today for the first time. I have to say, I was underwhelmed. The newer NYC subway trains are MUCH nicer. The new Path trains look low budget and cheap. Plus, there is no place to stand on the sides of the doors (my favorite places to stand). Damn. I don't really see any improvements. What is the advantage?

I too like the sides of the doors they are great for keeping large contraptions out of the way of others standing. Also there is no pole to grasp in the middle of the car. The seats have this uncomfortable lumbar support and you can't squirm in them freely. So now for those that like to sit you cacn stand and ev eryone can fly in and out more easily. Whats next importing Japanese train pushers. Maybe the cars should have no doors like the cable/trolley cars of San Fransisco.

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OK, I saw a new Path train today for the first time. I have to say, I was underwhelmed. The newer NYC subway trains are MUCH nicer. The new Path trains look low budget and cheap. Plus, there is no place to stand on the sides of the doors (my favorite places to stand). Damn. I don't really see any improvements. What is the advantage?

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I've ridden the new trains about three times.

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Yeah, but they will not be in full rotation until 2011. I've just stopped myself from getting excited about it, so if they do come earlier, it'll be a pleasant surprise, LOL.

Should be the Port Authority slogan - "Expect nothing, and you might be pleased!"

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my friend rode on one last week (WTC - Newark) and this morning I saw a new train at Grove PATH, going to Journal Square.

they are coming, slowly but surely.

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i willing to bet that we wont see the new cars until 2011 at least


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I rode on one last week.

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i willing to bet that we wont see the new cars until 2011 at least

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Path management is CLUELESS.

They have the resources to:

A) Record new public service announcements

WHICH DOES NOTHING TO ALLEVIATE MORNING RUSH HOUR OVERCROWDING

B) Install new flat screens

WHICH DOES NOTHING TO ALLEVIATE MORNING RUSH HOUR OVERCROWDING

C) Put up posters about new path trains (yet to be seen)

WHICH DOES NOTHING TO ALLEVIATE MORNING RUSH HOUR OVERCROWDING

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The morons in PATH management should concentrate their time and money into getting the larger trains on line FIRST.

Then they can piss away all of the resources they want on this crap that DOESN'T MATTER.

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I just stick to my metrocard. WOrks on PATH, subway and busses. So easy.

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Online push for more PATH service

Posted by jfink October 06, 2008 10:20AM

Jersey City Councilman Steve Fulop and Hoboken City Councilwoman Beth Mason are pushing an online petition drive demanding better weekend and night time service on the PATH, a push that coincides with recent news that the World Trade Center station will shut down most weekend beginning next year.

An email message sent from Fulop seeking support for the drive, which includes asking people to send emails to Gov. Jon Corzine, Fulop notes the Jersey City council passed a resolution this summer urging the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to improve weekend and evening service.

Mason will sponsor a similar measure in Hoboken, he said.

"This is an issue about safety, about accessibility, and about your tax dollars. I believe that the collective voice carries the most weight and that if we can generate enough e-mails to our elected officials, we can achieve our goal," Fulop wrote in the email.

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A new entrance to the Newport Station that is closer to the Mall and the Light Rail stop is a very good idea, and I'm more than glad that SOMEBODY in city hall cares anything about the PATH. He is also calling for improved night and weekend service, and I am thrilled about that. I say we get as many people going to that site as possible and see if we can start a movement. I plan to print up some flyers with the website address to hand out this weekend as I ride in the sardine can.

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Maybe Seatless Subways Aren't Such a Crazy Idea

Reader Raphael sent us this photograph of a subway rider getting pretty comfy on the subway. Now, it's nice to stretch your toes and all, but...shudder.

One of the MTA's state violations is placing "one's foot on the seat of a subway, bus, or platform bench" (it could mean a $50 fine). Besides you have no idea what's been on that seat before--it could be something like this. Which is why many people like to avoid skin- on- subway- surface contact--we saw someone holding onto a subway pole with a plastic bag yesterday.

The seatless subways pilot will begin in the coming months. Also: Dirty seats are one of the "ten plagues" of subway riders.

Just think of how many more people could cram into each subway car if there were no seats! That's the idea behind the latest MTA plan which WNBC reports will bring flip-up seats underground. The seats will be unforgiving during rush hour, as they'll be locked in the up position. Hmm, this isn't going to help the different lines raise their grades!

The pilot program will feature the seats in 4 of 10 cars, and "officials hope to squeeze more people -- as many as 18 percent more -- inside such cars." No word yet on which line will test out the program, or when it will reach all trains, but the roll out program will start later this year (as early as 5 months from now). To the elderly, pregnant and others who require seats...you've been warned.

http://gothamist.com/2008/09/05/maybe ... _subways_arent_such_a.php

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Has anyone else swiped their card, had the turnstile tell them to enter, then walked smack into the bars because the lock hadn't disengaged yet?

Happened to me last night. Ow. I have a really nasty bruise across my legs now (and it was a bit of a scary experience, as I currently have a swollen spleen and an impact of that nature could rupture it...).

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If anyone has ever tried to file a complaint or give feedback to the NJ PATH system, you know how difficult it is to even locate the right place to file your complaint. For a long time I believed there was no way to even contact the PATH authorities other than for emergencies or paranoid folks reporting suspicious persons. Well I actually finally found the link after searching and searching on the Path website. Here is the link: panynj.gov/feedback

I recently wrote in a complaint regarding the sardine-like crowded trains during rush hours and the horrendous late night and weekend schedule. I was actually amazed to receive a well rounded response, and not just some canned message.

I urge everyone if you have ever wanted to give the PATH feedback, do so. The PATH system will never improve if people don't voice their concerns.

And while you're at it, everyone complain about those goddam 5 minute long stupid announcements over the PA system. If PATH would put in 1% of effort to improving the system as they did to make that irritating automated loud speaker announcement about how we shouldn't carry bags and packages, then we'd have a perfect smooth running train system. In our dreams.

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PATH reliability is way, way better than the NY subway system, and the NY subways are reasonably good. Be thankful that we have such a well run system.

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I used to pick up the PATH from Hoboken in the 80s for a daily commute. At that time, that station was the worst. Packed like crazy, I would watch 3 trains go by before I could inch my way closer and closer along with the throng to get near the door.

Hoboken lightened up when NJ Transit started running suburban commuter trains direct into Penn Station NY. Before, all the suburban NJ commuters would have to train into Hoboken, and then get on the Path. Now, many of them can go direct into NYC.

I moved to JC, and started taking the PATH from Grove daily. Back then, I could get on the platform (I couldn't at Hoboken - so that was a big improvement) but trains during peak commuting time would still certainly be at capacity - even back then. Outside of peak commuting time though, it was fine.

Watching all the condos go up for the last 20 years in Jersey City, I often wondered who exactly it was who thought there would be no problem with PATH handling all these new people?

I can imagine the realtors telling these buyers that all they had to do was hop on the PATH and have an easy and quick commute into the city .... little did they know my PATH car was always full at Grove during peak commuting time long before these buildings went up ...

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