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wow, you're demanding, aren't you?

maybe people aren't falling all over themselves to answer the prissy demands of somebody ignorant and bigoted enough to post this:

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I am still waiting on some sort of comparison with the Beacon??? Which is the better investment?

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Anybody know what the skinny on this historic district is? Paging JPHurst!

By ANTOINETTE MARTIN
Published: April 22, 2007
JERSEY CITY

Paul Hawthorne for The New York Times


THE American Can Company factory building here — which was the birthplace of the modern American beer can — is undergoing conversion into more than 500 condominium lofts that will retain a distinct industrial flavor, spiked with ultramodernity.

The new condos will have a look that is both retro and sleek, according to architects from SBLM of Manhattan, the company hired by the developer, Coalco New York, to transform the million-square-foot Art Deco-era industrial building.

Its classic factory elements, like ceilings that soar up to 24 feet and concrete columns as big around as giant redwoods, will be set off by white-lacquered kitchen cabinetry, wide-plank white-oak flooring and stone countertops in every unit, said David Nicholson of SBLM.

“It has been quite fascinating working on an adaptive reuse like this,” Mr. Nicholson said. “The building has such strong character of its own, and we are trying to play to that, honor that, while at the same time going to the cutting edge with the apartment designs.”

A separate architecture firm, LOT-EK of Manhattan, was hired to create a “destination” lobby at the condominium project, called CanCo Lofts. It has come up with a startling low-tech-high-tech design that combines stacked lumber used as benches and “ceiling sculptures”; a wall decorated with industrial piping; extensive glass; and two dozen plasma television screens that will show live scenes of the Manhattan skyline as well as community news flashes.

“This wall will truly be a spectacle,” said Giuseppe Ligano of LOT-EK, describing the wall of piping as reminiscent of a Chinese screen. It will be lighted from behind so that from across the room the piping appears as stripes on an interior wall.

The TV screens mounted on the wall may be viewed as art in addition to their role as instruments of communication, Mr. Ligano said. “For one thing, they can be used creatively to repeat the view of New York, so that it seems to be everywhere in the room, or splitting it into fragments so the screens make a whole ‘painting’ or to produce a panorama.”

In addition, five “conversation areas” will be created around the lumber benches, whose seating section will be wrapped in leather. The lobby will also have a mailroom, with desks for opening mail.

The CanCo building is a natural haven for commuters — nine blocks from Journal Square and a PATH station, from which passengers can reach Wall Street in less than 15 minutes. So the screens will also constantly report on weather and traffic, said Edward Yorukoff, marketing director of Coalco New York, a division of Coalco International, a diversified development company based in Russia.

Coalco will open sales next month on the first 100 loft units. Construction has begun after a long phase of environmental cleanup at the property and completion of a sales lobby and model kitchens, baths and a loft space, Mr. Yorukoff said.

One-, two- and three-bedroom units will be offered at prices ranging from the high $200,000s to the upper $600,000s, Mr. Yorukoff said. The apartments come with garage parking, numerous amenities and shuttle service to the PATH train.

The first residents could move in by the end of the year, he said.

The building, which was shut down as a can factory in the 1970s and has mostly been empty since then, is a local landmark. With its five towers, tall smokestacks and stone Deco details, the brick structure is part of a historic industrial district established by the city.

The developers have picked up on the theme with a piece of artwork installed inside the sales lobby’s front door: a wall-hung sculpture composed of paint cans of a type once manufactured on the site.

The building’s facade will be completely renovated, according to Coalco’s president, Mikhail Kurnev.

The lofts will be designed to be exceptionally large and roomy, he said, with period 14-foot ceilings — 17 feet to 24 feet on upper floors — and eight-foot-high doors, plus the oversize windows typical of old factories. The baths will have oversize showers and soaking tubs, glass mosaic tile on the walls and cove lighting.

A 10,000-square-foot residents’ club will feature a large fitness center, a yoga and Pilates studio and a half court for basketball. In addition, the community will offer a children’s play center, screening room, pet park and pet spa, game room for billiards and video games and an event room with an outside terrace.

The building’s basement, formerly a rail station, will become a residents’ parking garage, accessible by elevator, Mr. Kurnev said.

LOT-EK, the lobby designer, is also designing a garden area outside the lobby, which will have a glass wall on the garden side. Although the setting for CanCo Lofts, situated at 50 Dey Street just off the clogged traffic artery of Tonnelle Road, is highly urban, the building is designed to offer a calm oasis to its residents, the developer said.

From upper floors, the views of Manhattan and the NewJersey coast and, westward, of towns perched on rolling hills are extraordinary. From the now-gutted upper floors of one of the towers — empty save for concrete support columns 12 feet in circumference — the full 360-degree panorama is available.

“It’s a good time to shop for the view you might like to own,” said Mr. Yorukoff, who added that prospective buyers would be allowed to take a look, if willing to don a hard hat.

He said he expected the lofts to be most attractive to buyers in their 20s and 30s, probably with no children or only a toddler, who might want to use the loft space in their units as either work space or spare bedrooms.

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Kiss my tail. Four syllable words don't scare me....

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+1 on that lecxe

Olive, Non is a great person, he tells it as he sees it and has loads of useful information he gives to potential new residents of the area, too bad you won't be getting any of it now...

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So then what's your lame-ass excuse for your ridiculous, xenophobic comments?

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am i hung over or is this poster more incoherent than our dear chuckie when he forgets his meds?

Has anyone looked at both the Beacon and Canco? And if so, can they provide a comparison? Current pricing, floorplans, views, amenities, potential for price appreciation, etc.

By the way, given that the developers of Canco are Russian, Olive's extensive spelling and grammatical mistakes are most likely culturally based, and not the result of some learning dysfunction.

you are right...Olive has some sort of interest in Canco being a sucess, thats why she is dissing St Pauls and her facts are inaccurate. St Pauls are actually at an all tiime high. Canco actually makes St Pauls vaule go higher. st Pauls does have charme, 24 hr doorman and security, parking, etc...

any new developments in jsq are good for all.

this started as a converastion about nothing in jsq except little india, and has tuened into canco or st pauls. not a fair comparison. lets just hope that with these new condos, nice new stores follow.

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Wow ... that was kinda harsh. Sounds like the person w/ no class is you.

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POST OF THE YEAR!

your comments are just typical of somebody with no class
no wonder why you still on the ghetto.
I can tell you belong there

my biggest concern on moving from downtown to jsq or the heights to have to deal with people like you



and before you talk about grammar you may take a look at your own
realise is spell realize

just for the record Mr ghetto

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i'm half-inclined to cut you some slack and chalk your posts up to a language barrier or a learning disability, and you don't realise how much you sound like you're trying to promote Canco by insulting one of its neighbors. it doesn't seem to make sense that in the Beacon thread, you seem to be making specifically negative remarks, yet you praise it in this thread.

so either you're having a hard time expressing yourself, i'm completely misunderstanding what you're trying to say, or you're simply the winner of the "worst JCList shill ever" contest.

but good luck with your real estate venture. keep doing that homework.

I am not competing with anybody I have consider myself saint pauls complex, I have visited it as well as the canco lofts and many buildings in jc
so far, base on my preferences the beacon and canco are some of the best developments in the jsq area
nothing like saint pauls which has a lack of style and character
but hey.... I understand that not everybody has the same level of taste

so my apology to you, and your circumstances
Mr nondowntown if i offended you in any way

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sure, olive. your objectivity is palpable.

and from your original post, i would guess you didn't get around to doing any of your English or grammar homework.

i hope Canco does well, despite folks in sales, marketing, or simply biased buyers misconception that referring negatively to competitors does anything other than reveal your own insecurity or lack of faith in your own product/purchase.

so is "olive" a:

a.) Canco buyer
b.) Canco employee
c.) somebody related to a or b?
d.)none of the avobe

I guess d

I'm just very familiar with he jc market
I'm looking to buy something I have done my homework

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so is "olive" a:

a.) Canco buyer
b.) Canco employee
c.) somebody related to a or b?

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these condos are very different from saint paul's
this is a factory being converted into condos there is a history behind this building saint pauls is just a huge apt complex with not style, kind of a private projects

you have to decide if you can sacrify the view for 14' high celing and 11" windows
this is a real industrial living

I am also sure that these condos wil appreciate much faster than saint pauls
wich actualy are coming down in price

about JSQ these area is under development and is just a matter of time to see new stores opening
the same that happened in downtown jc

What is the down payment that you need to do at booking? I am assuming the balance is due on possession.

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That's because your comment is trivial.

Funny, no one wants to discuss my comment regarding how disgusting and foul Little India really is. It really is absolutely disgusting.

I just meant that for a few of us (hundreds? Thousands?) the Indian businesses are less important than the Egyptian ones. There is some subjectivism here (gastronomics?), but also the fact that some of us (again, thousands?), when getting out of the PATH, go south on Bergen and for us the Indians are like inexistent in J Sq.

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ummm, when did Indians become Arabs?

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I said it before and I have to repeat that, if not for the Arabs' stores, it will feel like country-side, with Duane Reade closing at 7 on Sunday.

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Don't flatter yourself. I "got over it" the minute I finished writing my post.

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Ummm .... errr .... I actually think you missed my point. I mean, I don't understand why you don't like caramel lattes since they're quite tasty. Then again, I'm a Cuban espresso kinda guy myself.

Jokes aside, I was using latte as a metaphor for essentially all of the above, which would include:

Diverse restaurants, italian, spanish, indian, japanese ....

The point is that having communities like Little India, in a section of the city that has struggled in the past, helps fill in the blanks in creating a larger, more cohesive community. You add more development and additional like communities, and next thing you know, it all comes together. So yes, that smell of curry can be one of the catalysts to luring more commerce.