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Re: Intersection daylighting has been installed along Jersey Ave.
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Considering all the repaving done Downtown this year after the gas mains were replaced, it would have been a relatively low cost extra to bump out the curbs and make it a PERMANENT fix to the problem.

Just plain poor planning, and those poles are a waste of time and money because they never last long...



Agreed to completely. I hate those poles. They look tacky. Bump out the curb for a permanent real solution.

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first snowstorm of the year and these are all history.

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Amen...

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Seems like the simplest solution would be some serious parking enforcement. As in towing every car that's parked too close to the corners. The City makes a small fortune and the word goes around fast that corner parking is a no-no here in Jc.


Somehow it seems like enforcement of both parking and traffic is simply not an option, someone has decided street design is the only way. Only in JC can a Parking Authority agent not be a cost effective moneymaker for the city.

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Considering all the repaving done Downtown this year after the gas mains were replaced, it would have been a relatively low cost extra to bump out the curbs and make it a PERMANENT fix to the problem.


Not at all simple or cheap where the sewer drain is right at the corner you're bumping out.


B, good point that I hadn't considered. But I never said "cheap"! Now just waiting for someone to complain about the loss of parking spaces. Seems like the simplest solution would be some serious parking enforcement. As in towing every car that's parked too close to the corners. The City makes a small fortune and the word goes around fast that corner parking is a no-no here in JC.

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Considering all the repaving done Downtown this year after the gas mains were replaced, it would have been a relatively low cost extra to bump out the curbs and make it a PERMANENT fix to the problem.


Not at all simple or cheap where the sewer drain is right at the corner you're bumping out.

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These are dumb and unattractive. Dont think they do what they are intended to do.

However, where I would like to see these are alongside bike lanes. A physical barrier would prevent people from coming into the lane to sneak by other cars or drop people off. I guess the places Im thinking about where the bike lanes hug the curb are more in NYC than JC, but that could happen in JC in the future too.

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Considering all the repaving done Downtown this year after the gas mains were replaced, it would have been a relatively low cost extra to bump out the curbs and make it a PERMANENT fix to the problem.

Just plain poor planning, and those poles are a waste of time and money because they never last long...

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We had these installed at 1st and Erie a couple months back.

All gone within a week.

They just installed new ones a couple weeks back. New improved design. Half are gone and littering the street.

So stupid.

So much money wasted.

Identify the problem spots, intelligently select where they should be no parking, then bump out the curbs. It's the only way to deal with the issue.
Also, make sure your stop signs are actually visible.

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I am disappointed that the City appears to have gone "all in" where there was plenty of discussion about the fact that all four corners are not equal.



YES. if I'm turning right from a one-way street, daylight spots to my right aren't going to help improve visibility one iota.

they do, however, improve the turning radius of trucks and emergency vehicles. so maybe that was part of the plan?

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Street sweeper on Jersey Ave today:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3sAX3lUGtE4

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So far i have seen:

1) a cab double parked next to one
2) a CUV parked in front of one, almost blocking the intersection
3) a motorcycle parked inside one
4) a Fiat 3/4 parked inside one

There are many shades of success.

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And how does JCIA intend to handle streetsweeping & snow removal in these zones?

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Watch the poles get flattened by the turns of all the oversized trucks illegally coming through the side streets.

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Daylighing posts have been installed along parts of Jersey Ave. (Those white posts that prevent parking.)

Two thoughts:
1. I am a big advocate of this. However, I am disappointed that the City appears to have gone "all in" where there was plenty of discussion about the fact that all four corners are not equal. In fact some corners of an intersection - based on the direction of traffic where there are 1-way streets in particular - have little impact on visibility and others pose a great safety concern. In a perfect world (meaning in a world where parking was a non-issue) yes all four corners - and all eight sides of the corners - could be restricted. But knowing how parking is around here (and no I am not a car advocate) it would seem prudent to evaluate the intersections and rather than limit 4 corners address what is generally two that really constrict views.

2. If an when this is seen as a "success", can we get rid of the poles and instead have proper bump-outs (or, dream big, landscaped rain gardens) that will really help pedestrians?


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