Haven't the JC Police Deparment heard of compustat? It was a program set up by the late Jack Maple that was used in NYC during the Bratton years. It is a simple system that merely entails placing additional officers in crime "hot spots" It appears that Lex and Bergen is one of those spots.

Why don't they just set up a mobile command at that spot considering two people have been killed over there?

All they have to do is re-position one of the numerous patrols they run through Paulus Hook each night

It's not a robbery its a burglary. A robbery requires the use of force. This is a trespass with a taking hence a burglary

The issues at Wayne Street are simple to solve post police on the corner or run constant patrols. I lived on Wayne Steet for two years prior to moving to Paulus Hook. it is simply incredible the difference in police presence in Paulus hook compared to Wayne Street. I have seen more 5-0 during my four months in P.H. than I have during my entire tenancy on Wayne Street.

I also had the good fortune of living right near the corner of Jersey where all the fun happens. The folks on the stoop on the southside of the block run the gamut from drunks to junkies to drug dealers. Some are harmless but their posse changes and often includes more unsavory characters.

In short the Police have no interest if they did the solution is simple

Why does a company that had a $16b bonus pool need a tax abatement?

I hold Goldman stock, which has been underperfroming as of lat but I think it is preposterous that a company that makes as much money as Goldman is getting abatement's on both sides of the Hudson.

P.S. Goldman is very well positioned to make to continue to get advantageous treatment from local state and the federal government

Councilman; Fulop
Governor; Corzine
Us Dept of Treasury; Paulson
World Bank Pres; Zoellick
White House Chief of Staff; Bolton

Not to mention Goldman is the biggest donor to our two senators Lautenberg and Menedez....

I suspect they will continue to get sweetheart deals and while that benefits my bottomline I think it is pathetic and wrong considering the tax dollars could be used to address the complete lack of services, underperforming schools, and open air drug markets

The article seem to have an ant-arab/middle eastern bias. The quotations from the local shop owners reinforce that bias.
I would like to see more facts especially in light of the current climate.

Fulop just lost my vote;

Civil forfeiture is double jeopardy and it usually impacts the innocent worse than the offender

The first supreme court case concerning this policy involved a guy picked up for solicitation. He was from a poor family and the family car was seized as a result of his trangression. The $600 camaro (maybe a bitchin Camaro).

This caused the innocent spouse to lose access to the family car which resulted in her losing her job. This in turn had a devestating effect on the family

That is the potential and perhaps likely result of such a heavy handed policy.

For big drug dealers civil fort is a good weapon even if it may be double punishment but for the small time dealer or John it can have very destructive consequences far beyond the offender

What has happened to the presumption of innocence.

Some of the charges like :charged with official misconduct after failing to take action while those in the room with him were allegedly smoking marijuana.

I would like to see the facts surrounding this one.

However, I concede that the number of arrests is disconcerting.

Great Idea, good and necessary legislation but good luck getting it passed.

I wish they passed this years ago in JC and Hobe.

To vote against such a measure would look bad but is there a way to kill this bill short of a vote, if so, that will be the out.

It seems that JANET WHITMAN should not be reporting about a story she is part of, (Journalism 101), that being said her lack of journalistic ethics ought to work out well at the Post.

Clearly we are far off point. My point Gore never said he invented the internet, no one has refuted this point.

I think its a bit of a stretch to say "took the initiative in creating the Internet" is taking credit for the invention.

If you apply context to the words it becomes obvious he did not mean he actually invented it, words don't exist in a vacuum.

I am not a politican nor am I an apologist for Gore or Clinton or their policies.

If the "system" worked there would have been no proceeding.

I agree poor folks should not have to live in dangerous conditions often brought about by the sale of drugs and we must correct this behavior so that hard working lower income residents have a safe atmosphere for their children

However, the policy is flawed and often applied in a overbroad manner.

The zoning suggestion is interesting but I doubt the "druggie" zone will be in a middle-high income neighborhood so its just squeezing the balloon, to another low income neighborhood.

The policy can't work as a matter of economics. Some poor folks looking to make a quick buck realise that there is a market for illegal substances and they will rise to meet that market need without regard to anything else. Since the evictions don't address the market they will accomplish nothing.

YOu need education and good police work and that still has it short comings in addressing market forces.

Bottom-line legalize the soft drugs concentrate on the hard ones, treat (not jail) the addicts, educate the youth and hopefully you mitigate demand.

Hardly semantics

Two very different meanings, that convey two very different messages. That is the way propaganda works its subtle but significant. That was my only point and I think it has been made

I am not denying the contributions of Mr. Lee he is the inventor but wasn't the web a DARPA project?

Here is the full quote;

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

Now what he meant by initiative is that he provided the funding for it, in Congress he was a vocal advocate of the creation of the internet. Although that is not part of the quote that is what Congress does and that is where he was at the time. They provide funding for programs when he says initiative it meant funding but I concede he wasn't that clear

"took the initiative" has become "invented the internet" which is a blanant falsehood.

I think we agree on that point.

Sinik,

Thanks for repeating the propaganda. Al Gore never said he invented the internet.

He said that he was at the forefront at providing funding for the development of the web and that is true.

The quote to which you were referring was used during the 2000 election/selection, but was proven to be false.

Taxation was in use in other regions before Europe that is also a fact.

So one out of two ain't bad

I loved reading this thread. I think I am the only person on this thread that has acutally represented tenants in Drug Holdovers in Housing Court so I feel obligated to weigh in.

I represented a 70 year old lady that worked for the City of New York and had lived in Public Housing her whole life. While she was at work (yes, at 70) her grandson sold drugs in the same hall where her apt. was located. He was caught and plead out. They sought to remove her from public housing.

NYCHA was proceeding with the eviction despite the circumstances. We won the case at trial but my client was very nearly evicted for no reason but for being a relative of a person who was selling drugs near her apartment.

I think the reservations expressed by the ED of Jersey City Public Housing is that this type of action ensares many law abiding people who have few choices as far as housing due to finanical conditions.

I agree those leaseholders that are actively engaged in selling drugs out of a public housing unit should be evicted but the blanket application of this policy is the problem.

I have seen people evicted due to the fact that they had taken in grandchildren where they had no idea any drugs were being sold out of the apartment, when they thought the kids were in school they were in fact partying at the apartment and selling drugs.

These are not turn the other way scenarios

I also agree that the evictions accomplish nothing as far as the "war on drugs" These actions are like squeezing a balloon..

The war on drugs itself is a failure; as long as the demand exists the supply will be there. We have spent billions and nothing has changed, nothing except the drugs are more expensive and more potent.