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Re: Has anyone else experienced Indian upstairs neighbors with heavy feet?
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vindication15 wrote:
Actually Asians, including Indians, take shoes off while indoors so your story is most likely fake. Cool story though.



Not fake (why would anyone fake a post like this?), but you're right about the shoes. I've contemplated whether the longtime previous tenant always wore slippers or something. I bet she did. She was up at 5 and didn't ever wake me even though the kitchen is above our bedroom. Bare heels hitting hard can be worse than sneakers or other soft shoes. And I did install cork padding under the laminate foor exactly for this reason. Insulation between the floors doesn't help much, the joists will transmit the sound very well.

Posted on: 2015/6/16 3:16
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Re: Has anyone else experienced Indian upstairs neighbors with heavy feet?
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NewportNJ wrote:
Why don't you racists rename this thread to "Why we hate our Indian neighbors"?


Why do you jump to the conclusion I hate anybody? My tenants are very nice. I'm just glad to see them go, and want to avoid a repeat. Do you deny that of the wonderful variety of people on this earth that we are not all identical in behavior? I've noticed before in my life people of different backgrounds even in the US sometimes walk differently. Why should it be racist and outlandish to suggest perhaps Indians might also? Unless you subscribe to the notion that noticing any difference among people is inherently racist.

Posted on: 2015/6/15 22:17
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Re: Has anyone else experienced Indian upstairs neighbors with heavy feet?
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JGJDNYCJC wrote:
Jokes aside, you do realize the silliness of your inquiry, based on a sample size of 2 or 3 out of 1 billion?


Yes, I do. Which is why I'm asking rather than just excluding. People jump to stupider conclusions when their quality of life is at stake.

Actually it's a sample size of 3, they both walk heavily.

Posted on: 2015/6/15 18:08
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Has anyone else experienced Indian upstairs neighbors with heavy feet?
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We rent the upper floor of our house, and the latest occupants are a very nice Indian couple who have been great tenants, except that they walk like elephants. We tried politely a number of times to speak to them about it, to no avail. They said they would try, but apparently they simply don't have a "inside walk", where you don't slam all your weight on your heels. They shake the whole house and rattle the lighting fixtures, even when walking after midnight.

A few months ago I was taking with some guys who said they had had an Indian roommate who had the same issue, the landlord gave them a hard time about this person "walking heavily". So is this really a cultural trait?

Thy're now leaving (we did not force them out) and I don't like the idea of profiling new tenants based on this, but I can't take years more of a rattling house, and don't even want to respond to inquiries from Indians about the apartment.

Any experiences out there?

Posted on: 2015/6/15 17:26
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Re: Jersey City assemblyman calls Councilman Fulop 'un-American,'
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JCRealist wrote:
Easy to say when you can afford the rent. There are jobs out there that are quite important yet pay a pittance. Are you suggesting a social worker go for a higher paying job just for the money? That being the case, no social workers would exist and the system would be a mess. Then people like you would be un an uproar because the city let kids slip through the system. The solution? Higher taxes to pay for higher salaries. Oh wait, you're looking for your Bush tax cuts and lower property taxes. When you sit down with someone who is honestly having a hard time times making ends meet, (not a career welfare check casher) then talk to me.


Your post boils down to "people want what they can't afford". Wishing it wasn't so or wanting someone else to foot the bill is irresponsible. However much I agree that bankers are overpaid and social workers are underpaid, that doesn't add up to "landlords need to give certain lucky people cheap rent". Why not "restaurants need to give certain deserving underpaid people half price food"? Why should I eat at McD's when they can pass a law that says I can eat cheap at Smith & Wollensky? And if you raised taxes and paid social workers like doctors, there would still be legions of very nice people toiling underpaid in rewarding careers they chose, but not for the government.

Posted on: 2012/9/12 4:36
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Re: Jersey City assemblyman calls Councilman Fulop 'un-American,'
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Your missing the point of affordable housing. Keep on making high price rents and people of lower income wont be able to afford ANY housing which is arguably discriminatory.


ANY housing? Or just housing where they'd like to be? Is there a right to be in Downtown rather than Greenville or Essex County? I'm here in JC because I couldn't afford to live where I'd prefer. Is that discriminatory, or just reality for anyone in the 99%? There's people in Manhattan's storied neighborhoods who whine that they couldn't afford to live there without rent stabilization, yet many I know have weekend homes bought with their landlords money. This boon isn't handled in any rational way, its basically a black market for insiders. The neighbor of a colleague died and I got hear the blow by blow of the maneuverings to get his cheap apartment and add it to their own. And this couple made plenty.

If society decides to subsidize rents, it should foot the bill via section 8 or similar, rather than tell property owners that it's their problem. It reminds me of how hospitals give astronomical medical bills to the solvent sick to subsidize the insolvent sick, rather than society at large picking up the tab.

Posted on: 2012/9/12 4:10
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Re: Jersey City assemblyman calls Councilman Fulop 'un-American,'
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Awesome. Connors is the poster child for everything wrong with Hudson county politics: he's the not particularly bright nephew of an ex mayor who was convicted of bank fraud and is a master of dirty political tricks. Connors has been pushed on us by the machine again & again to pad his resume till he looks substantial enough to run for mayor. Makes one wonder about the merit of that detective shield. And then he has the stones to accuse someone who volunteered for the Marines DURING WARTIME of being un-american!!

Posted on: 2012/9/6 18:55
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Re: Building Department fines...
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Yup, it's a cat and mouse game with the contractors and Buildings, but they're both cats and we're the mice. I once got fined because my contractor didn't tell me what the inspector said! Contractor fine: nada.

Also not well known is that you don't have to let them in if they just show up without a warrant because someone dropped a dime on you. The US Supreme Court said so 44 years ago, but JC buildings has not gotten the memo, and will huff and puff and then fine you totally illegally. I guess it's not as bad as the NYPD pulling bags of weed out guys undies in street stops and then arresting them for having it in plain sight, but it's still unconstitutional. In both cases they depend on people being intimidated and not knowing their rights.

Posted on: 2011/5/20 21:49
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Re: Atomic Wings owners suing JC over delays in opening
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The problem with confronting Buildings in court is that when caught doing something outright illegal they come up with some plausible nonsense to cover themselves. Digging out some ancient permit that they screwed up the paperwork on as "the violation" is one they use often. I wonder if they don't do it intentionally, to have a lever on you. Even when you get the signed "final inspection" sticker, how would you know they actually filed it unless you go down there and check?

Posted on: 2010/10/23 21:46
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Re: Thoughts on manditory parenting classes/parent licenses
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3 observations:

The ASPCA far predated child welfare legislation. You could beat your kids and your wife all you wanted but not your horse.

SF writer Jerry Pournelle proposed in a novel that any food provided by public assistance be laced with contraceptives. You needed to be solvent enough to buy contraceptive free food to have kids. This is kind of a high tech and merciful throwback to pre-socialism where if you couldn't provide the basics for your kids: they died, and Darwin ruled.

robotjustin: Actually, China and India, while huge, are leading the way in plummeting 3rd world fertility rates. Who's leading the fertility race? Koran thumping countries. Gaza, subsisting on aid with virtually no economy of it's own, has one of the worlds highest birth rates. Guess they figure suicide bombers to be an exportable commodity and a growth market.

Posted on: 2010/10/6 4:13
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Total Runs for 2007:

Jersey City: 22,747 (page 154)

Newark: 12,238 (page 152)

New Jersey Divison of Fire & Safety
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/dfs/fireinnj07.pdf


While I'm giving out grades, the designer of that report gets a D. On the table you refer to, none of the columns have labels nor is there any guidance elsewhere in that section. Just what are the 9 numbers for every city that add up to total runs?

Edit:
Backtracked the link and found the 2008 report http://www.state.nj.us/dca/dfs/fire_in_nj08.pdf which actually identifies the data points. The biggest reason we have so many more runs is EMS, 9075 to Newark's 2290. Presumably they have an alternative 1st responder for medical emergencies, possibly one that's cheaper than turning out a fire crew? Anyone know what EMS system Hoboken & North Hudson has? With 1/6 our population Hoboken had 3.4% our FD EMS runs. North Hudson which serves 195K, had only 357 EMS runs.

Runner up is "service" whatever that is: 1169 to our 4126. As far as actual fire runs, they had 1882 to our 1389.


But all this still means little without staffing and unit comparisons to pick apart that EMS story. It's not easy, but you simply can't throw numbers around without context.

Posted on: 2010/4/14 18:46
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Total Runs for 2007:

Jersey City: 22,747 (page 154)

Newark: 12,238 (page 152)

New Jersey Divison of Fire & Safety
http://www.state.nj.us/dca/dfs/fireinnj07.pdf


Was that so hard? Yay, you get C+ on your report! An A would require comparisons AND analysis. Like why might 2 so similar cities have so different stats. Could we be over responding? Just stating we have nearly twice as many runs begs many questions, like do we have more runs relative to alarms? I'll be reading the doc you kindly reference to see what can be extracted.

Posted on: 2010/4/14 17:58
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
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darenot wrote:

These number mean nothing in a vacuum. They need to be compared to a variety of other cities to mean anything at all.

You would also be more credible if you would stop quibbling about the acronym and posting selected data, and actually cite or link to your data source. Then we would all know more about the fire service.



Selected Data?? It's all over the place on the web. Just look it up.

Name a city that is comparable to Jersey City??


Credible facts require citation of source, not "go look it up yourself". This you should have learned in high school.

Comparable cities is easy. Pick ones of similar population or similar age and demographics, or both.

List of cities by pop. http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/North_American_cities.htm

Lets pick Louisville, Birmingham, Rochester, Akron, Fort Wayne, Newark, and Buffalo. All aging eastern industrial cities of more or less a quarter million people. See, was that hard? JC is not unique, to be considered in a vacuum.

Posted on: 2010/4/14 16:26
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Its the FDNY not NYFD..

And Engine 9 in journal square averages over 3,000 runs a year..

Engines are around 2,300 runs a year..
Ladders are around 1,800 runs a year..
Battalion Chiefs are around 2,000 runs a year..

Jersey City has the busiest companies in the state.

Big industrial area?? What does that have to do with anything?? Most fires occur in residential dwellings.

You know nothing about the fire service.


These number mean nothing in a vacuum. They need to be compared to a variety of other cities to mean anything at all.

You would also be more credible if you would stop quibbling about the acronym and posting selected data, and actually cite or link to your data source. Then we would all know more about the fire service.

Posted on: 2010/4/14 15:16
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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mvm wrote:
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Jersey City has closed four companies everyday for overtime concerns. This has delayed response times all over the city..
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Is this because the average JC taxpayer is not paying enough and tax rates need to be raised, or is it because we have too much of the budget dedicated chiefs and because the city is not allowed by entrenched interests to hire new people they can afford?


It's not clear that we needed those companies, lets see numbers not anecdotes. Whether compared by population or area, we are far overstaffed compared to Philly, the only comparison easily available. If Battalion Chiefs represent a certain number of units, we have 3 times theirs per capita. Adding in the comments about how many firemen are in the units, it sure looks like we have far more units than they for our size. A little googling turned up that there's a document called "the municipal yearbook" published every year with all the stats to compare apples to apples rather than tell stories. I wonder if the library has it?

I've heard that the reason for so many firehouses in old cities was that before modern construction and building codes, there were LOTS of fires! Old wooden houses were heated with coal stoves and fireplaces, and lit with gaslight. Now you have concrete and steel structures with sprinklers, even the old places have much safer heat and wiring, and there are smoke detectors everywhere. We simply don't need as much FD service as we used to. Not to say none, but not the density of 60 or 90 years ago.

Posted on: 2010/4/14 3:21
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Philadelphia has an additional firefighter on each ladder company and two additional firefighters on there squad company. In order for Jersey City to be staffed like Philadelphia you would have to increase there total firefighters by 80. Philadelphia has an officer to firefighter ratio of 3.2. Jersey City is not to far off.

I do believe they should look into making staff positions filled by firefighters instead of Captains. That would be a savings and by bringing Lieutenants back would also reduce the jump of 30% from firefighter to captain. These are two reasonable changes.

Those two savings would not compromise the safety of the people of Jersey City!


Your math is fuzzy. JC's ratio of 2.2 firemen per brass to their 3.2 is huge, 145% of philly's. You decline to compare by area or population served, instead using unit staffing which is totally misleading, since obviously they have far fewer units per man. Having too many stations is one of the obvious ways we waste money, since each station requires a full set of 4 captains, correct?

Posted on: 2010/4/12 22:00
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Re: State calls for renegotiating 'too expensive' Jersey City police and fire contracts
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Okay seriously the Captain drives in the passenger seat of every engine, ladder, and rescue company. They are in charge of three firefighters assigned to there company. The company operates as a team..

You know nothing about the fire service, so stop acting like your an expert!


Even accounting for the fact that we have captains filling the role most depts have lieutenants for, your blaming the high brass ratio on our being "undermannned" falls apart when you compare our firemen to Philly. We have more than twice theirs per capita and 3x per sq mi. Explain that away.

Posted on: 2010/4/12 19:56
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Re: Will fire department cutbacks threaten public safety? Union says yes; city says no
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JerseyCityKid08 wrote:
Four captains are assigned to all 27 companies in the city.


You seem well informed, we've now heard about philly, any idea how JCFD stacks up against other similar cities in terms of companies per capita or square mile?

NYC, with 32 times our population, and a higher density, has 221 companies (houses presuming they are the same as companies), That would equal 7 companies for JC. With 11,400 firemen/32 equaling 356, it sounds like we might have the right number of firemen, just too many companies requiring too many apparently overpaid brass. Thus the move to reduce companies is actually too little.

Posted on: 2010/2/10 4:27
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Re: Will fire department cutbacks threaten public safety? Union says yes; city says no
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ErinMaiden wrote:
unions are sucking this country dry. there was a time and a place for them. that time is gone.


Make that past tense as far as private industry. They rode the auto industry into the ground with elaborate contracts. Anytime a labor negotiator says one of his goals is to "protect jobs" you can sell that industry short. UAW crushed the Saturn experiment as heresy, and got the cooperation of the calcified GM management in doing it.

The big question is why do we tolerate in government what has not worked out in industry? These "workers" game the contract cycle to get the city administrations to do whatever they want in exchange for electoral support.

Posted on: 2010/2/9 4:16
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Re: Will fire department cutbacks threaten public safety? Union says yes; city says no
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It's the Oprah of FD's: "everybody retires a captain!!" A gift that gives far more than new car. This is where our taxes go, to municipal jobs programs and their generous pensions. The majority of unionized labor in this country now works for the government, the rest of us will never see benefits like that.

Most cities need far fewer firemen that they did decades ago because building codes, along with safer more efficient appliances, have created far fewer building fires.

Posted on: 2010/2/8 17:41
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Re: Steven Fulop & Guy Catrillo, trying to turn it into a two-man Downtown council race; accusations
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KNOWITALL wrote:
if it was only sent to a few people how'd it end up going to several supporters of Fulops..just playing devils advocate.


I haven't heard exactly how many recipients there were, but it was a 1000 word diatribe, not a short little email you'd send to a friend. It appears she was forwarding a document generated by a campaign.

To say it AGAIN, she did not say it was an HPNA document, nor was it an HPNA list, the issue was that people who had dealt with her on HPNA business using that same email were now receiving a partisan document from her, possibly leading them to believe it was from the HPNA also.

Would people automatically assume such? Personally I'm not convinced, but it concerned the HPNA officers and they thought it jeopardized the debate. They asked her to send an additional email to that list clarifying that it was her personal position not HPNA's. Then the Catrillo camp joyously threw gas on the fire and people are still struggling to understand exactly what happened.

Posted on: 2009/5/8 17:32
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Re: Steven Fulop & Guy Catrillo, trying to turn it into a two-man Downtown council race; accusations
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KNOWITALL wrote:
I'm just interested to see if the original e-mail had HPNA in the sign off. Its just he said/ she said until it's posted.


I don't believe anyone ever said it did. The issue was as I described above. She never claimed to speak for HPNA, and no one accused her of it, just of being thoughtless about the implications of the email.

BTW, Ricardo Kaulessar should get the JC stenographer award for simply printing whatever the Catrillo camp said happened without any of the HPNA's side of the story. Newsflash: reporting is more than taking dictation.

Posted on: 2009/5/8 2:03
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Re: Steven Fulop & Guy Catrillo, trying to turn it into a two-man Downtown council race; accusations
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As I understand it, the issue for HPNA was not that she sent it, but that it was sent out under an email address that she had been using for conducting HPNA business, thus risking a sizable list of recipients thinking this was HPNA official communication, throwing their official impartiality and nonprofit status into question. Had she used a different email never used for external HPNA business, there would have been no controversy at all.

Whether you accept this view or not, they essentially saw the incident as the equivalent of using HPNA company letterhead for private political activity and reacted to control damage to the organization. The etiquette of email has tripped up many people, and is still not obvious in many cases.

Trying to use HPNA's reaction to this incident to whip up partisan anger about it by deliberate mischaracterization of what happened is pretty low, IMHO.

Posted on: 2009/5/7 21:58
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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Justiceiro wrote:
The city is broke? That's why HP looks like it does? Van Vorst doesn't look like that. Do we live in different cities?


No, different universes, you're in a clueless fantasyland. You obviously didn't live here when VVP got an extravagant $3m renovation because the mayor, Brett Schundler, lived on the park. It was borrowed money then, and our current crisis is a direct descendant of Schundler's financial shenanigans and funding of his pet projects. As I said, HP has gotten no capital expenditure in decades, and it's doubtful any park will ever again get the dollars per square foot that VVP did.

Since none of you let facts like the above stand in your way, Superfurry minnie and yourself can keep attacking your boogieman HPNA. I'm done here.


Posted on: 2006/1/7 16:51
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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Justiceiro wrote:
Many years ago, in the fresh bloom of my youth, I had the opportunity to live in an ex-communist central european country for a few years.

This whole Hamilton park affair looks eerily familiar......


Okay, I have to admit it, I'm impressed. I haven't seen such a crew of delusional characters since Penguin, The Joker and The Riddler.

You all think HPNA has such mystical powers. You haven't a clue what you're talking about. They're just a few people trying their best for the community, some for a long time, some just starting, while everyone else ( including me) sits on their ass or "don't have the free time". The park looks like crap because the city is always broke and it hasn't been renovated in 30 or 40 years. One of the reasons that it hasn't is that other parks got city attention because HP looked better than most JC parks due to HPNA's modest efforts.

You indict the whole community with your nasty rant, not HPNA. Go peddle your stalin crap somewhere else, I bet you don't even live in HP.

Posted on: 2006/1/7 7:31
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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I was never given the opportunity to speak; get your facts straight.


You were given the floor to comment on the Historic Zone issue. When you proceeded to attack the board about the bylaws, the president asked you to keep your comments to the issue at hand. You had no relevant comment, as is true of most of your 1200 posts here.

Posted on: 2006/1/6 23:01
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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super_furry,

Neither you nor Julio had the committment to HPNA to serve as trustee boardmembers instead of the officerships you wanted. Rather, both of you backed out of the election. What more is there to say? It's a testament to the wisdom of the new HPNA election policies requiring a previous board membership term for officers.

As for Julio and Minnie, they were both given the floor to comment on a specific issues and used the opportunity instead to attack the HPNA board.

Julio attacks HPNA for taking a vote to express their opinion on development without asking permission from other groups or people not in attendance? IT'S THE OPINION OF HPNA MEMBERS, AND NO ONE ELSE!! The rest of his note seems equally silly and uncomprehending that HPNA is a nonprofit corp not a governmental arm.

The HPNA board really should post a meeting summary at least on their website or through the Yahoo group. That, btw, is how I get the newsletter and hear about neighborhood stuff. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPNA-JC-Public/

Posted on: 2006/1/6 20:47
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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5477speedial wrote:
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darenot wrote:
You are seriously complaining that someone has to actually join an organization to vote in it!!?


My point is that if the HPNA had announced their intention to change their bylaws - making it necessary to be a member for 90 days in order to vote - THREE MONTHS ago, the outcome of the upcoming elections would be a little less certain.


You're possibly right about that, but I still don't condone the planned hostile takeover by "votebombing" of an organization by nonmembers because it happened to have ridiculously liberal membership and voting policies. Clearly that was the only thing prevented by their 90 day policy change. I question the membership value of someone who would join only in time to vote for their friends. I also heard the previous rules allowed anyone from anywhere in the city to join.

On the bright side, maybe the HPNA official membership rolls will be greatly expanded now that people know it counts for something. Though, from what my friends in other downtown districts say, we already have the best attended meetings by far.

Posted on: 2005/12/12 3:16
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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5477speedial wrote:
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darenot wrote:
You are seriously complaining that someone has to actually join an organization to vote in it!!?


Maybe not, but I do find the timing of the complete overhauling of their bylaws extremely suspect.



Well, so do I, but so what? They apparently suspected they were going to be inundated with new people, rounded up by the harshest voices in this thread who are in conflict with the current board, who had never participated in HPNA before but wanting to vote in the election. That's the answer to my question that SuperFurry was reluctant to answer "Who exactly is being excluded here?"

Surely all the complaints makes clear that just such a "coupe" by non HPNA members was in the works. That's what ticks me off enough to be posting about this. I find the greater hypocrisy to be the complainers.


Posted on: 2005/12/11 21:21
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Re: Does the HPNA represent the community?
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You know what, you guys are stepping over the line to actually deliberately misleading people with this hyperbole.

Nothing is stopping anyone now or ever from joining HPNA. the only barrier has always been apathy, in plentiful supply. It sure isn't the $5 yearly dues. You are seriously complaining that someone has to actually join an organization to vote in it!!?

It sounds like you're complaining without knowing anything about the organization. Trustees ARE board members with full voting rights! They outnumber the officers and the only qualification is 30 days membership. That doesn't seem like an exclusionary hurdle to me.

Why is it a big deal you can't immediately become an officer? Participating for 1 year without controlling the agenda doesn't sound like such a hardship. Unless, of course, you're incapable of working as a team player. Perhaps THAT'S the point of the new rule!

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murican wrote:
ONLY 45 members! Shouldn't as many people as possible in the community be encouraged to join and be able to vote and participate in the board? Why do residents have to PROVE themselves worthy by time limits and service as trustees? I don't believe other neighborhood organizations have either these membership or service requirements for leadership.

How can the residents of Hamilton park register their views on urgent critical questions if they have a one month lag on their voting privileges and can only have certain people representing them.



Posted on: 2005/12/11 18:25
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