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Re: New York Times: Cashing Out of New York City
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Xerxes wrote:
I read the same article and it gave me a headache...filled with lies and half truth, my guess it is ALL made up.

Imaginge getting a "SLIGHTLY larger apartment in Connecticut" and enjoyiong the thrill of a donut while waiting for a BUS to the TRAIN in Stamford. What's that about an HOUR longer commute each way and $300 a month more...stuff the donut where the sun don't shine!

And that couple that "saves $1000 a month" to commute from NORWALK...HOW.
The co-op they left probably has a FAR smaller RE tax than the house in Norwalk.
How can they save $1,000 per month over the cost of a subway card.
What is the RE tax of a 3 bedroom ranch in Norwalk; what is the cost of taxes...shall we talk abouit the price of a car they must own now to get to buy groceries and get to the station?...and THEN pay to get from Stamford to Grand Central...and THEN buy the subway card when they lived on the Upper East Side!

How in blue blazes can they save $1000 a month

The article is pure bullshit..."realestate speak!"

Yes you can make a good trade now to move to the suburbs...but NO you cannot save money monthly if you must commute into Manhattan to a job. It works for retirees who never want theater or city life again...except as tourists ina $300 a night hotel room.


I love this.

So, when a reporter for the NY Times interviews actual parties who have first hand knowledge of their own finances, their responses are "bullshit". But when someone who doesn't know them from Adam makes wild assumptions about these peoples' finances, it's legitimate? Oy.

I also love that Xerxes' conclusions rely on absurd assumptions like "all new yorkers don't have cars". Because those who live in co-ops on the UWS can't possibly afford a car or garage parking. Just because you can't afford it?

And i'll see your real estate taxes assumptions, and raise you a NYC resident income tax factor, which you blatantly avoid.

The lengths to which some people will go to justify to themselves the absurd prices they pay for their crappy apartments in Newport...

Posted on: 2007/12/30 20:23
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Re: Healy testifies in Trenton on gun bills
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Good job quoting verbatim from the NRA Website (scroll down to NJ), DTG!

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Dwntownguy wrote:

S2470 - This bill would criminalize the transfer of ammunition to anyone who does not have a valid New Jersey firearms ID card, handgun carry or purchase permit, or hunting license. While intended to prevent criminals from obtaining ammunition, the legislation would only impact honest gun owners, since criminals are unlikely to purchase ammunition in New Jersey because of the mandatory reporting of all ammunition sales as required by state law.


"Only"? What flavor kool-aid is that you're drinking?

Why would an "honest gun owner" need to transfer ammunition to somebody who does not have a valid firearms permit or hunting license?

I love the gun lobby's clever manipulation of the terms "criminal" and "honest gun owner" - as if they're mutually exclusive, and as if criminals were born that way, and couldn't possibly have once been those "honest gun owners" themselves.

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S2934 - This bill would make honest gun owners responsible for the acts of criminals if they fail to ?immediately? report the theft or loss of a firearm that is later used in a crime. Styled as legislation requiring the reporting of stolen or lost firearms, the legislation would hold victims of theft responsible for the acts of criminals. Possible amendments to this bill are under consideration.


A mandatory reporting requirement sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Why wouldn't a gun owner report that their lethal weapon was stolen? Oh, because they don't want to go through the embarassment of having to admit they were packing and yet still got robbed? Or because they don't want to accept responsibility for not securing their firearms properly? Please.

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S2431 - This bill is an overly broad attempt to address gang violence that could have unintended consequences for honest gun owners. Among other things, it would criminalize and severely punish the mere possession of certain firearms, including registered handguns, even while engaged in lawful activities. As originally drafted, the bill puts law-abiding gun owners at risk of a potential 10-year prison sentence and a $150,000 fine.


Funny that the NRA sound byte doesn't tell you exactly what specific activity in S2431 would subject "law-abiding gun owners" to 10-year prison terms and $150,000 fines.

Mmmmm, truthiness...

Posted on: 2007/12/18 17:24
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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hawkeye_pierce wrote:
Hi folks I want to talk about some of SefZi comments,

Straight up, You're swimming so far up stream against the basic human wiring of common sense, If we could just capture the contrary energy going on inside your tiny brain-washed judgmental little skull, We could power the very Path trains that carry us into the city every morning. Give us something to work with, I'm predisposed to like most people because it makes the day go smoother. But help us out, I even voted for Gore and Kerry, and I'll be the first admit that rent increases in Jersey City has nothing to do with democrats or republicans.

And really, If you've lived here all your life, I truly don't understand how you could talk about this topic so unemotionally as a big grown-up? Shouldn't you care about the fabric of your community somewhat?

And listen, nobody here are "martyrs and crusaders" We just don't want to lose or our home. Hey, come on guys, displace us if you must but don't take for chumps.


Ahhhh another unbiased viewpoint! Lovely!

You and bri bri are so very quick to point out how all of my points are garbage, and you yourself claim to want to "talk" about my comments without actually referring to a single one of them. Anything I've said, please refute it, I'm happy to engage in discourse about it. Somebody might actually learn something new.

I totally care about the fabric of my community. There's a difference between not caring, and understanding the history and the reality of the forces at play, which have been working their way to where we are now for decades. Pardon me if I'm not going to lose too much sleep over single people who can already afford to have lived in one-bedroom apartments in VVP for 4 years having to settle for living in the Italian Village, or Harsimus Cove, or (heavens no!) the Heights.

Many, families with children, households with multiple generations, who had lived in their apartments for far longer, and were in far worse financial situations than you have gone before you. So yeah, I've got plenty of emotion, I'm just way more discerning about where I place it. All of a sudden the system has reached a breaking point because you can no longer afford to live in your apartment, and might have to walk 15 minutes to the PATH instead of 5? Get. over. your. self.

I actually do feel for people who are forced out of their homes. Even you guys. What I don't take kindly to is when people in a sh*tty situation having some irrational need to place blame and speak in tautologies when they don't even know what they're talking about. Because that's really constructive. Start there if you want to talk about wasted energy that could power the rails. Something tells me newfound tenant advocate brian_em's gonna be an activist for exactly as long as he's the one he's fighting for, and as soon as the dust settles, this concern for "the people" will go right back to where it always wasn't.

It sucks you guys, but you knew you were renting in a building that wasn't under rent regulations, and if you didn't, you should have. It's called constructive notice. And provided that the landlord can justify the increase as being in line with the market, no Hudson County housing court judge is going to declare it unconscionable, in the absence of another legitimate defense (like retaliatory rent increase). You don't have to like it, but them's the breaks kids. Get mad at me all you want for it, but I know what I'm talking about, as does brewster. Kill the messengers all you want.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 3:51
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Jako wrote:
Is the new construction really selling for $1,000/sf?


Nope. brian_em's just being hyperbolic and making up facts to feed the chip on his shoulder.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 3:03
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Being able to recognize and articulate how the free market works is hardly a "defense" of it. I'm not actually the one that invented the system, and neither are the lowly mouth-breathing Jersey City realtors. We're stuck with it, so all we can do is learn it and try to understand it. Which economic system would be more to your liking?

You could live in any number of places in Jersey City, probably even in your own neighborhood, if you could get that gigantic chip on your shoulder through a doorway. But you don't want to, and somehow your sense of entitlement is everybody's fault but your own.

I pity people like you, who think of themselves as martyrs and crusaders when they are dragged kicking and screaming angrily into the real world that other people have been facing for decades. And now all of a sudden it's a problem? What a f*cking insult to people in far worse economic situations than yourself who were priced out of your quaint, edgy brownstone apartment back while you were still in art school. But hey, who gives a rat's ass about them, right? They were probably immigrants or drug dealers or something.

Nobody likes prices going up on anything, man. PATH fare increase will suck, gas prices suck, utility bills suck. But grown ups don't stomp their feet like pouty little children and manipulate the reality of the situation to maximize the pity-party. They grow a set, swallow their pride, and move on.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 2:49
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Re: Will JC home sellers face new fee? - Hudson Reporter
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Jeebus wrote:
The third thing is the real problem - it's very easy to raise a tax once it's on the books. Almost always it gets pushed up over the years. Probably the best example is the Federal Income tax, which politicians promised would always affect only the richest 1% of the population to get it passed. Look at how that's worked out.


Which politicians promised that the Federal Income tax would only affect the richest 1% of the population, and when exactly did "they" do this?

Posted on: 2007/12/5 1:20
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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brian_em wrote:
Stefzi,

Wow, I can't disagree with you more.

What Realestate Agency do you work for ?


I don't work for any facet of the real estate industry. Says a lot about your ability to articulate your position that you immediately attack those who disagree with you and make sh*t up about them.

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No seriously, how much property do you own in JC?


I don't own, I rent, in a 4 unit building. And it's not in downtown. And I somehow manage to get to Manhattan every day. Not that it has anything to do with this conversation.

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No, im serious, what agency do you work for, because A post like that means one of two things, you're a total snob, or you work for a realestate agency...


Or option three, I'm grown up enough to be able to talk about a complicated issue from a detached, unemotional perspective. Oh, and that I understand a lot more about business and economics than you do.

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This whole thing isn't just about me, I'm using myself as an example to a large part of this community.


Wow, it sure sounds like it wasn't your problem, until it became your problem. Such conviction.

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There are so many things that you said in the last post that are just BS, im not going to go through every one.


Or any one, apparently. Because you aren't equipped to.

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I don't care if this problem has been around for 100 years. It's a problem, and i'm going to voice my opinion about it.


By all means do so, and I'll do likewise.

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I'm sorry I don't make 150k a year. SNOB. Maybe you should tell everyone under 30 to leave to make room for all your golf buddies.


Ha ha that's funny. Because i don't make even close to 150K a year. Or 100K a year. And I'm actually 30. And I think golf is for a-hole Republicans.

But hey, there's something kinda fun about being called a SNOB by the artist who votes for Bush and cries wolf about capitalism, and who thinks he's too good to live in a neighboorhood in Jersey City other than Van Vorst Park, even after he can no longer afford to.

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I'm sorry, but that isn't what Jersey City is about. You don't tell people to leave if they complain about their rent going up. That's just being ann a$$.


Been here my whole life, brat, but thanks for the lesson on "what Jersey City is about" - and for the record, I never said leave Jersey City, I just said suck it up and recognize you can't afford your apartment, and move to an apartment in Jersey City you can afford.

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The hypocrites on this site....it's amazing... THank god the people that I know personally in this city are not like the people on this site.


You said it better than I could. I agree with you 100% on the above quote.

Posted on: 2007/12/4 5:06
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Re: ox restaurant
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Did I miss something, or did OX occupy the last remaining viable storefront on Newark Avenue? Is it necessary (let alone relevant?) to slight a promising new business for not being what you personally find the most useful, as if there aren't plenty of other locations for your pancake houses and your organic markets?

Ask yourself the following question: If OX does well, are your magical dream 'useful' shops more or less likely to follow?

Posted on: 2007/12/4 2:33
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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brian_em wrote:
Brewster, I totally agree with you, this is not a new thing, and wow, that article is pretty funny. It could be published today and still feel relevant. And to me, there's the problem.

But again, I raise the questions of what is the breaking point. I mean, yeah the lower east side was the new soho, then willimasburg was the new les, now parkslope is the new Willaimsburg,


Ummm, okay. But not really even close to accurate on your timeline.

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bushwick is the new park slope, blahblah and somehwere Jersey City fits into this mess. But when does it stop, i mean, it seems this mentality won't stop until Easton, PA is the new hotspot, and everyone is getting priced out of rhode island. But all kidding aside, there is a zero barrier, so to speak, of how far people can go. It's sort of a numbers game; if you need to be in manhattan for your job, but there is a 45 minute cloud around the city that is unaffordable for the middle class, what do you do?


Plenty of people all around the country commute 45 minutes and more to work each day. Convenience is a luxury, not an entitlement, despite how much people come to expect a short commute within our proximity to manhattan.

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And it's happening too fast.


You say "too fast" (when you really mean too fast for you) but then refer to how this has been going on since you were in junior high? Which is it?

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Prices are rising in NJ in some cases, not because the neighborhoods have changed, but because real estate developers are "expecting" a change or are selling the "future" of a neighborhood.


Realtors don't operate alone. If they price something what you consider to be "too" high, the market will determine whether or not you're right. If somebody buys it, the market was right, and you weren't. Free market can't always accomodate your personal whims for what you think your rent SHOULD be or your neighborhood preference. It's been happening for years.

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Prices all over hudson county are rising drastically because of what's happening in JC, and some of those areas do not have the ease of transportation that JC boasts.


Again, a sign of the market's strength, even in the face of the national real estate and lending turndown.

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And also, like I said before, who are the people moving into the 500 sq ft studios in jc that cost 500k? I can tell you now, they aren't young professionals, like people assume.


So wait a minute, these "people" make wild assumptions, but you don't? All we know, in the absence of empirical data to flesh out the picture better, is that the people moving into these condos that you resent so much, are people who can afford to do so. If you're not one of them, that's not the seller's problem, the buyer's problem, the realtor's problem, or your landlord's problem.

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Im glad in 1997 you made the move to JC, it was smart on your part, but still 11 years ago, there were close alternatives to manhattan that were affordable. I would have definitely jumped on that train except in 1997, i was a junior in highschool. Because of the real estate boom, there aren't any close alternatives anymore.


Yes there are. You're either too lazy to look for them, or deem these alternatives (yes, even in Jersey City) unworthy of your tenancy.

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And to me, that's killing the very spirit of the new york area. I think in a few years, the new york city area will be just people in their 40s, and a small amount of rich kids, because no one else will be able to afford it.

Look around in JC,


What you really mean to say is "look around the neighborhoods in JC i would deign to live in."

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every new building going up is a "luxury" condo building.
There is nothing going up saying affordable housing.


On the waterfront, absolutely. Elesewhere in Jersey City, not even close to accurate.

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So it brings up the point, what can we do about it? Do we lobby for government assistance for middle class citizens? Do we protest? Do we demand sanctions that require a certain amount of units designated to be "affordable".


We already do. And have for decades. Exactly what those developer exactions translate into and the enforcement mechanism is another story altogether, for which the political forces in JC should be held fully accountable.

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It's a shame, and I know its nothing new, but the real estate developers are to blame.


Umm, they couldn't do it single handedly. Sure, it's popular and easy to demonize realtors, but they couldn't manufacture something out of thin air without other complicit buyers, sellers, municipalitiies, developers, corporations, etc. Simplifying a complicated socioeconomic phenomenon might help you feel better about yourself, but it just makes you look like you have no clue what you're talking about.

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They aren't thinking with the people in mind, they just want to cash in and bounce.


Since when do capitalist for-profit players in the economy sit back and think about "the people"? Not in Bush's America that's for sure (or in anybody's america, mind you, but certainly not in this administration).

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I think that everyone buying into this gold coast idea, and purchasing 500-750k condos like lottery tickets are going to be in for a shocking surprise when that "idea" doesn't materialize.


And if/when the bubble bursts, guess what happens... Prices go down (as they already are, albeit slowly), the market adjusts, and the cycle starts all over again. Regardless of where you end up.

Getting priced out of your apartment is certainly unpleasant, but why is it any more the end of the world now that it's happenning to you, when it's been happening for decades?

Posted on: 2007/12/4 1:41
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Re: Another cop attacked by pit bulls -- West District Police parking lot -- shot one dog twice
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The headline says "Another cop" - who was the first one?

Posted on: 2007/10/26 15:52
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Re: Lincoln Park Area: Homeless man shot dead, officials say
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View Larger Map This looks like it's less than a block away from McGinley Square. Don't know why anybody would call this intersection Lincoln Park Area.

Posted on: 2007/10/25 3:41
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Re: ox restaurant
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In post #40 parkman refers (inexplicably) to the "White Horse". That's not that far back.

Posted on: 2007/10/21 6:40
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Re: Jersey Journal & Star Ledger: BIG FEATURES ON CRIME & LOCATIONS -- SEE LINKS
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2nd wins the Most Constructive First Post Award, hands down. (And bonus points for use of the word "man-satchel"... <--- unavoidable but good-natured snark).

Posted on: 2007/10/18 21:15
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Re: Jersey Journal & Star Ledger: BIG FEATURES ON CRIME & LOCATIONS -- SEE LINKS
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wow, nugnfutz, McDonagh said nothing of the kind. way to completely mischaracterize a quote and insert your own agenda into it to create the subtext you want.

Posted on: 2007/10/16 4:04
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Journalists don't lobby, and they don't push agendas. They attempt to uncover the truth apolitically, so that others can be better informed in their own pursuit of change.

You say your goal is to expose the identities of the police officers depicted in the video. If current State law requires that this information be kept confidential, how do you plan to go about achieving this goal?

Attempting to change the system so that these proceedings are no longer confidential (not necessarily a bad idea at first blush), if successful, will likely do nothing to reveal these officers' identities, as these cops are protected under the current law, and the Constitution prohibits the creation of ex post facto laws.

I wish you guys well in your political endeavors, and actually agree with some of what you say you will be working towards. I just wish you and dreadstar would have been honest from the start about what you were trying to do, and wish you hadn't been so self-promotional in the process.

The real test will be whether you care enough about this issue to actually invest the time and energy to work toward change, or whether you're really looking to make a name for yourself and exact some sort of vengeance on these particular cops because of the 111 history. Time will tell.

Posted on: 2007/10/16 3:08
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Re: Another Child Dies - Not Buckled Up!
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Great post, jerseymom, and i fear you will be unjustly accused of "blaming the victim" because you have the guts to say the right thing.

That accident was horrible - it was reported that one of the kids was thrown 30 FEET OUT THE BACK WINDOW. So tragic, especially because the death might have been avoided.

If you love your kids, please take jerseymom's advice.

Posted on: 2007/10/13 16:18
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Hahaha it's so amusing how obsessed you are with everybody who proves what a waste you are being 'non'.

Now who's pulling the spin-job, Mr. Ass-Bike? Disappointed to find out that Healy wasn't actually the Mayor at the time of the incident, they shift their attention to the IAU investigation time frame. Clever! But nothing changes the fact that the officials in place at the time the video was shot were Cunningham people, whose mess L. Harvey Smith inherited.


Posted on: 2007/10/12 22:50
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Congrats to s6k for their media coverage! Well done!


Video shows Jersey City cops drinking, stumbling around
by Michaelangelo Conte
Friday October 12, 2007, 5:42 PM


A video showing armed Jersey City cops in uniform staggering as they chug liquor from a bottle has resurfaced more than two years after the police department got it anonymously and quietly disciplined six officers.

"We do not condone this behavior and we responded to it swiftly, with severe discipline," Police Chief Tom Comey said of the video, which was posted on the Web site s6k.com and then this month on jclist.com.


He said the cops' behavior "appalled" him.

The incident happened on Oct. 13, 2004 between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m. and the surreptitiously made video shows the officers drinking, stumbling, urinating on the sidewalk, and passing around a clear bottle containing clear booze, Comey said.

Comey said five of the officers were working off-duty security jobs for Interstate Construction on Bay Street between Greene and Warren streets. A sixth officer who was on-duty saw what was happening and although he did not participate, he was disciplined for not taking the matter to his superiors, Comey said. Police would not identify the officers.

Discipline meted out ranged from five to 45 days lost pay, with the officers giving up accumulated vacation, sick or personal days, while continuing to work, Deputy Chief Peter Nalbach said.

The on-duty officer received less severe discipline, Comey said, adding that all the officers remain on the force. The incident happened during the tenure of Chief Robert Troy and Comey said he agrees with the disciplinary action taken.

The mayor's office received the video anonymously on Nov. 23, 2004 and passed it along to the police department. The Internal Affairs office began an investigation and passed a copy of the video to the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office. Prosecutors found no criminality and did not pursue it, officials said.

The police department's investigation led to departmental charges against the six officers in January 2005 and they were disciplined in April of that year, said Comey.

Jersey City Police Officers Benevolent Association President Harry Sandwith said he had no comment on the incident, calling it "old news."

A spokesman for the state Attorney General's Office, Peter Aseltine, said there is no law in New Jersey regarding carrying a gun while drinking alcohol or while intoxicated.

Near the end of the video, what looks like at least two uniformed officers get into an SUV with a man in street clothes and another man walks over and taps on the window. He hands a sheet of paper to the driver, who appears to read it before driving away. The camera zooms in on the easily readable license plate.

The video has generated more than 100 comments on the jclist forum since it was posted on Oct. 5

Posted on: 2007/10/12 21:51
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Actually, Fat-ass-bike, you're wrong.

Healy was not mayor of Jersey City in October of 2004. L. Harvey Smith was acting mayor until Healy was elected in the November 2004 special election. Note that Captain O'Callahan never says this happened as Fatt-ass-bike says, with "Healy at the helm" but rather that the video was provided to Mayor Healy (who was not mayor until November 2004).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Harvey_Smith

Yet more of your work done for you, "journalists". You're welcome.

Posted on: 2007/10/12 21:34
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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"In the next 72-hours, many people will owe apologies that I'm sure we'll never receive."

FINALLY, what this has been about from the start, getting your "news" website attribution and airtime! Mission accomplished!

Real journalists with integrity don't throw hissy fits about how much they deserve apologies. It's not about them, or the traffic stop that spawned the chip on their shoulder. it's about the story. And they do their research before creating hysteria for hysteria's sake.

One need only look at the 'intro' on your news videos to see your level of professionalism and perspective. Not to mention your reference to "Jersey City's big buildout period, early 2000's maybe?" demonstrating how little you know or care to know about your subject matter. Because the "big buildout period" in Jersey City is a thing of the past, right? Take the trip from Brooklyn and come take a look around, Jimmy Olson!

What's most sickening is that an artist from 111 trusted you to do the right thing with this tape, and you seized it as an opportunity to get you noticed. Shameful.

Posted on: 2007/10/12 5:59
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Glad you're not solely relying on JCList for your self-promotion efforts! i wouldn't look at the nj.com message boards if you paid me.

Find me the references in THIS thread on THIS website where I or other posters suggest this thread or any of its posts should be deleted.

The acts depicted in the video are horrible, but as i have said from the start, and as G_Elkind has stated in a very articulate way, to introduce the video clip in such a dishonest way (the subject line of the thread, the 'Gee whiz i just happened to find this news website' ploy) is irresponsible, and it insults the intelligence of people who actually care about important issues.

Instead of speaking about the video in an honest way, you went for the Dateline: To Catch a Predator sh(l)ock value, and people held your feet to the fire for doing do, with good reason.

I personally don't think this video should go away, nor do I have any problem with reopening an investigation if the officers caught on tape were not properly held accountable. I just wish this matter had been presented honestly from the start, without the 'I have an axe to ground about a traffic stop in another jurisdiction and I'm gonna make them all pay for it' attitude.

SefZi OUT.

Posted on: 2007/10/11 17:22
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Glad to see this thread is making as much sense as ever.

"I agree and find the number of posts saying to give the cops a break kind of shocking."

There you go again dreadstar, completely misrepresenting other people's positions and putting words in people's mouths. Find me a single sentence I or anybody has typed that says or even suggests we should "give the cops a break". I've got two whole dollars that says you can't.

Posted on: 2007/10/11 16:10
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Hahaha your back-to-back posts make it pretty clear that this thread is in no danger of 'dying' while you're around. So there's no harm in my responding on that front.

Posted on: 2007/10/10 4:51
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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See that's where you really make no sense. I think Healy is a bumbling idiotic slob, and a lame excuse for a Mayor. I haven't said a single thing in his defense. Try reading the things people write before repeatedly putting words in their mouths, Captain "Truth".

I share your opinions of our local elected officials, dreadstar. It's fascinating that you find it so hard to believe that somebody can both think you're a hack, without having somebody in the alternative to defend.

And don't flatter yourself into thinking that blank was meant to suggest I was referring to you. Anybody who knows anything that's going on in this City can read between the lines on that one, and your inability to catch the reference shows how clued in you are to Jersey City politics.


Posted on: 2007/10/10 4:41
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Icantdrive55, scroll up to post #65 and see who brings Healy into the discussion. I was merely responding to that poster.

I am fortunate to have lived in this city for a long time without having a bad run-in with the JCPD. I know it happens, and I don't in any way think misconduct should be minimized in any context. I do think it should be spoken about honestly.

Still doesn't make it right to characterize all of this City's police force as "the proud drunk-driving-baby-killing JCPD". That's a reprehensible thing to do, particularly if your gripe is about cops lacking "people skills".

Posted on: 2007/10/10 4:31
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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"I didn't read Healy nor local pols into this ancient history event. Though I would question the current conflict-of-interest in having the City police chief's wife running the off-duty JCPD assignments."

Neither did I, but it's clear that some would like to read them into this event. And I completely agree with you regarding the police chief's wife and her running the off-duty JCPD business! If only there was a video of her in action, the Woodwards and Bernstein's would actually give a damn about real problems taking place now!

Posted on: 2007/10/10 4:19
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Hahaha dreadstar. You're a riot. I'm against misrepresentations of fact, therefore i must be pro-cops-drinking-in-uniform. Riiiiight.

As G_Elkind so rationally stated it, if you had been honest about your connection to the "news" website and the date of the video when you posted it, then I think your having done so might have inspired a rational discourse on the subject. Instead, you took the low road. And you insist on being sanctimonious about it. Shame on you.

And let's connect the dots... PR that's bad for Healy would be good for __________. You get three guesses.


Posted on: 2007/10/10 3:04
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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(Oh no, dreadstar, the thread was moving closer and closer to the bottom of the page! Better reply again, even though you were the last one to post!)

And you and your partner are accusing others of being the "angry" ones? Ha ha.

A little humility goes a long way, little man. Comparing yourselves to taking down Capone and exposing Abu Graib is pretty hilarious!

Good luck with your "news" website (as well as with your web-based media company http://bt-medialabs.com/page.cfm?id=64580177). Next time I need something misrepresented and taken out of context, I'll be sure to call bt-medialabs to do the job!

Posted on: 2007/10/9 22:11
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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I heard from an internet friend of a friend that these cops decapitated a dachshund in Hamilton Park a few weeks ago. The video should be released sometime in 2012.

Posted on: 2007/10/9 1:58
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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"And your vehemence makes me wonder if you work for the the administration or the police department."

Haha nice post-edit. I don't know a single cop, let alone anybody involved in city government.

Because entitling this thread "*Are* Cops drinking on duty in JC?" when even the half-assed journalists who put together that website admit the video is from the early 2000's sounds like somebody who is agenda-free and primarily concerned with the "truth" and not with sensationalism.

Posted on: 2007/10/9 1:26
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